When Does it Make Sense to Redeem Points for Economy Flights?

Qatar Airways 777 Economy Class
Qatar Airways Economy Class. Photo: Qatar Airways.

Many Australians save their frequent flyer points to use for flights in Business Class. Premium cabins have a strong appeal, and redeeming points to fly in the pointy end can be excellent value.

Although Economy Class redemptions may not be quite as aspirational, there can be times where this also makes good sense. In fact, if you can’t find Business Class reward seats, booking Economy rewards could be the key to travelling when and where you want for less.

So, when should you be redeeming points for Economy tickets, instead of saving for premium redemptions?

Valuing your points

The value of frequent flyer points varies widely, depending on how you use them. You can calculate the value you’re getting on any particular redemption using the “cents per point” method, by dividing the monetary cost of a reward by the number of points needed for it.

As an example, this Qantas Economy flight from Sydney to Melbourne costs $239. Or, you could spend 8,000 Qantas points + $41 in taxes and carrier charges.

Qantas website screenshot SYD-MEL
Screenshot of Qantas website.

This means your 8,000 points would be worth $198 (the cost of the airfare minus the taxes & charges), or 2.48 cents per point, if you booked this exact flight.

However, you might find it more appropriate to use a personal valuation of your points. Here, you assign a self-determined value to your points, based on a number of factors important to you.

As an example, take this flight on Virgin Australia which costs $199:

Screenshot of a SYD-MEL flight for sale on the VA website

This Virgin Australia flight is similar to the Qantas option: it includes luggage and seat selection, and is scheduled at the same time on the same date. So, valuing the Qantas flight at $199 (matching the Virgin Australia flight), your 8,000 Qantas points would be worth approximately $158 – giving 1.98 cents per point.

This is not to compare Virgin and Qantas’ Economy offerings, but rather to highlight that there could be differences in how much frequent flyer points are worth to you.

Reasons to use your points for Economy Class

Here are some specific examples of instances where redeeming points for Economy can make sense…

When flights are expensive

Some domestic flights have particularly high airfares, often due to low competition. Thus using your points instead of cash for expensive domestic flights, even when Economy is the only option, could result in significant value.

The Qantas Frequent Flyer and Velocity programs both use distance-based reward charts to determine the number of points required for a flight. Shorter flights cost fewer points. Therefore, redeeming points on short routes where the airfares are very high can be very good value.

Probably the most well-known example of this is QantasLink’s Sydney-Lord Howe Island Dash 8 service. Cash fares typically start from $555 one way, but a reward seat will cost only 8,000 Qantas points and around $90 in taxes & carrier charges. This results in an awesome 5.8 cents per point in value!

Redeeming Qantas points to Lord Howe Island is excellent value
Redeeming Qantas points to Lord Howe Island is excellent value. Photo: Matt Graham.

Flying within Western Australia can also be very expensive, making Economy redemptions good value. Looking at a random Perth-Karratha flight as an example, a cash airfare on Virgin Australia would cost $353 one-way:

Economy price on Virgin Australia between Perth and Karratha. Screenshot from Virgin Australia website.

A ticket on Virgin Australia is the cheaper option compared to Qantas on this particular route, but is still quite expensive for a two hour flight. Using points for an Economy reward would give a value of 2.7 cents per Velocity point.

Economy reward on Virgin Australia between Perth and Karratha
Economy reward on Virgin Australia between Perth and Karratha. Screenshot from Virgin Australia website.

Flexibility and savings in peak travel times

Airlines are aware of when the busiest travel times are, and will adjust their release of reward seats accordingly. This is especially true of premium award seats in First, Business Class or even Premium Economy.

However, Economy Class is generally more accessible for those looking to spend their points. Planes have more Economy seats, and individually are less valuable to the airline than a premium seat.

Take the below screenshot of Qantas Classic Reward availability from Sydney to Los Angeles during a school holiday period. There are Economy Classic Reward seats available nearly every day! However, there are only two days each of Classic Reward availability in Business and First Class in the entire month.

Qantas award availability Sydney-Los Angeles for July 2023.
Qantas award availability Sydney-Los Angeles for July 2023. Screenshot from Qantas website.

If your travel plans are relatively inflexible, for example you can only travel during school holidays, using points for Economy Class gives you more flexibility.

Also, an Economy Saver ticket booked for the above school holidays will set you back $1,600 each way on Qantas (as part of a return ticket). However, using points would cost only 41,900 points + $211 in taxes & charges one-way, giving a solid 3.3 cents per point in value.

The introduction of Classic Plus rewards earlier this year does now give more options fly in premium cabins with points during peak periods. However, Classic Plus rewards on long-haul Qantas flights typically require large amounts of points (and a higher co-payment than Classic Rewards) for premium cabin redemptions.

Short flights where you don’t really need Business Class

If you’re considering using your points for shorter flights, the benefits of Business Class are less pronounced compared to longer flights. Especially on daytime flights, the superior amenities offered in Business may not be as necessary.

New Virgin Australia 737 Economy Class
Virgin Australia Boeing 737-800 Economy Class. Photo: Virgin Australia.

This can be down to the quality of product offered on shorter flights. Most Qantas and Virgin Australia domestic and short-haul international flights are on narrow-body aircraft, such as the Boeing 737.

These only offer recliner seats in Business Class, with a bit of extra legroom and seat width. The better service and extra space is certainly nice – there’s no question about that – however an economy seat is often adequate enough for a short flight.

Travelling with family or friends

If you’re looking at travelling with family or a group of friends, finding enough premium cabin reward availability for everyone can be extremely difficult. That’s even true in off-peak times. And even if seats are available, a group or family trip requires many more points to book.

Conversely, Economy reward seats are more readily available in larger groups, and are cheap enough to be more accessible when planning group travel.

Also, Economy Class is more tolerable if a family member or friend is sitting next to you. No need for any awkward conversations to get out of your seat to go to the bathroom!

Using points for Economy in a family or group setting still has advantages over simply using cash though. Crucially, many economy award tickets still include seat selection and luggage, potentially saving hundreds of dollars in extra fees.

There are some exceptions. For example, United Airlines often releases multiple Business Class reward seats per flight between Australia and the USA – sometimes even as many as nine – which you can book with Velocity points. But United normally only releases Business rewards around a month before departure, so this is only really useful if you’re booking at short notice.

United Polaris Business cabin
United Boeing 777 Polaris Business Class. Photo: United Airlines.

If you want to spend fewer points

You may consider booking Economy awards if you’re aware that you’ll have less ability to increase your points balance in the near future. Using your points for Economy means that you can stretch your limited budget a lot further!

Because Economy tickets require fewer points, you can travel a lot further with the same number of points. For the price of a Qantas Oneworld Classic Flight Reward in Business Class, for example, you could book two round-the-world trips in Economy Class and still have points leftover for a return trip from Australia to Asia.

In the case of the Qantas Oneworld Classic Flight Reward, booking Economy rather than Business Class is also simply much easier. It’ll often be harder to find Business Class reward seats on the routes and dates that you actually want to fly – especially if you’re looking for multiple seats.

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That said, hoarding points is often not a good idea! Points are not a currency – they don’t earn interest and have no value unless you use them. Airlines can change award charts at any time. If you’re not able to boost your points balance soon, it may be worth using them now rather than saving for that one aspirational trip.

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When you have status or other travel perks

Using your frequent flyer points for Economy makes more sense when you have airline status. Many status benefits are only useful when flying Economy and Premium Economy – since you get them anyway when flying Business or First Class.

Qantas domestic Business Lounge in Brisbane
Some of the airport benefits of a Business Class ticket, such as lounge access, are available if you have status regardless of which cabin you’re flying in. Photo: Qantas.

This is not to say there is zero value for those with status booking premium cabins. But their experience differs less compared to someone without status.

This also applies to a lesser extent if you hold credit cards that give you lounge access. You may find that the lounge you have access to is similar to the one offered to passengers on the flight!

For example, the Plaza Premium international lounge at Adelaide Airport can be accessed by various credit cards. It also caters to Singapore Airlines Business Class passengers and elite members, meaning you will get the same lounge by simply holding the right credit card as you would by flying Business Class.

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Wilson's love of travel started from a young age, but his love for points developed after figuring out ways to travel on a gap year for less - leading naturally towards Australian Frequent Flyer! Wilson's hobbies include skiing, cricket and planning trips, both with and without points.

Wilson posts on the AFF forum as @WilsonM.
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A nice article about the topic. Syd- Ldh return using points is great value as mentioned in the article but finding award seats esp in the warmer months is almost impossible. If you are lucky to get seats, finding accommodation is the next challenge.

I managed to get 2 seats to LDH and back in February this year but nearly had to cancel the flights as I had great trouble getting accommodation despite trying to book 8-9 months in advance.

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A nice article about the topic. Syd- Ldh return using points is great value as mentioned in the article but finding award seats esp in the warmer months is almost impossible. If you are lucky to get seats, finding accommodation is the next challenge.

I managed to get 2 seats to LDH and back in February this year but nearly had to cancel the flights as I had great trouble getting accommodation despite trying to book 8-9 months in advance.

That 400 bed cap in peak times has its drawbacks 😉 That being said, it's for a very good reason that I can get behind. Glad you were able to make it though!

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I frequently redeem for economy, especially on Qantas. As the article says:

* Short sectors, such as HBA-MEL and/or

* Expensive fare and/or

* Lots of points hanging around, and no plans to redeem for long haul J for a while

... and I am usually OK with off-peak timings, so reward seats available.

Why pay say, $300 for an hour's flight when you can get away with c$75?

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A good example is one way international flights (eg. as part of a DIY round the world trip), where the cash one way fare is astronomical.

Eg LHR-JFK oneway can be over A$4K (yes - in Y!) flying oneworld, yet a return fare can cost less than A$900.

HNL-SYD is another example, but not quite to that extreme.

These are both day flights so many might find Y OK, and/or in the case of HNL-SYD, it's very hard to get J seats.

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I've just redeemed Qantas points for a Y-class ticket on BA from SIN to SYD next Easter.

It was the only sensible option available using points, and revenue ticket options were expensive and/or unattractive. I'd have booked Scoot Biz if they were flying that day, but unfortunately not.

I'm arriving into SIN in the morning from FCO in SQ J-class, and didn't want to stay in Singapore overnight, so the BA flight was my best option, especially as I was able to select an exit row seat for free, being a BA Gold (OWE).

I don't usually select an economy seat for such a long flight, but this was an exceptional circumstance.

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Seat family have just redeemed 4 x Y seats BNE-CBR on the last flight out in early August.

Saved a LOT of money over paying for it. Would have taken J seats if available, but not available - and given there are 4 of us (self, Mr Seat 0A, Seat Son and Seat Son GF), that's not really surprising that I could not get J Classic Rewards for the last flight out. The timing is important as it allows the visiting Seat Son + GF to maximise time with the family, but still be here in CBR for the next day to spend time with family here.

I think it's a good use of points in this situation, even though I usually prefer J.

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I’ve just done a BNE HIR return which worked out at about 2.5 cents value per mile redeemed, taking into account taxes and charges.
The only shame of it was the absence of the really good barista at the international lounge in BNE who was there from about 2017 on.

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Thanks @WilsonM for the detailed article about redeeming points

The strategy you wrote up is easy to understand

Recently I did some calculations on various options which included the classic rewards choice vs cash fare

What seems to happen is at the bottom of the fare pricing (eg Mel-Syd $129) that rewards seats are ‘plentiful’ while stumping up the cash is a fair enough choice

as the cheap red-E deals are sold and remaining cash fares head higher, the sweet spot is to jag a reward tic when there’s no cheap fares like in the examples you used

Here’s the calcs I posted

The best value for economy points is in my opinion a dog leg where the points spend is the same whether you fly direct or via a stopover (extra flight time and two lounge visits at departure and stopover airports plus if WP at the arrival airport)

Some of this is leveraged off status

Hitting LTG makes the points spend more favourable over the cash fares as you no longer need earn status credits to access lounges.

While you are on the way to LTG the downside unless Points Club is no SCs and maybe no lounges. It’s an unfortunate feature of redeeming points

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Hitting LTG makes the points spend more favourable over the cash fares as you no longer need earn status credits to access lounges.

While you are on the way to LTG the downside unless Points Club is no SCs and maybe no lounges. It’s an unfortunate feature of redeeming points

I will note that I didn't touch on the value of SC and points earned when paying cash versus using points, as this is subjective and IMO needlessly complicates any calculations. However, if you're buying points to use, i.e. BA Avios, you should definitely be considering this, especially if you're on a knife edge for value (around 2c per point is the minimum for me), as the opportunity cost of using points versus acquiring SC might skew it towards buying a cash fare.

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Seat family have just redeemed 4 x Y seats BNE-CBR on the last flight out in early August.

Saved a LOT of money over paying for it. Would have taken J seats if available, but not available - and given there are 4 of us (self, Mr Seat 0A, Seat Son and Seat Son GF), that's not really surprising that I could not get J Classic Rewards for the last flight out. The timing is important as it allows the visiting Seat Son + GF to maximise time with the family, but still be here in CBR for the next day to spend time with family here.

I think it's a good use of points in this situation, even though I usually prefer J.

Oh and because I somehow made PC, I will get SCs for the flights which are th gap filler I needed (along with my WP 500 roll over and my DSC trip to Japan in Jan/Feb 24) to retain WP for another year!

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