Re: SYD > MEL DYNWIA [DYKWIA] fever

[juddles]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Without further detail on the exact words used by the errant pax, this does not sound like DYKWIA behavior, but rather just poor manners/ignorance/failed staff

 

[medhead]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Sad downgrade in VA service. I had a couple of experiences early on of crew refusing to let me as platinum to use empty space in the J overheads. In one case putting my bag down around row 16, the other removing my bag from that little bit of locker that is over row 3, but extended from J locker space. But on my last VA J fight some guy from row 3 freely takes J locker space, then abused me when I took his bag out and handed it to him.

As for toilets, annoying to have to wait for Y pax when descent has started and I wish for a quick pit stop before the seat belt sign comes on. But when I travel in Y I prefer the rear toilets on a 737, I find the forward toilet to be too short with the fuselage curvature.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

The correct acronym is "DYKWIA". It would be a shame if DYNWIA became commonplace as, for me, the "DYK" part perfectly sums up what the whole thing is about.

So true....never a better acronym! Now where did I place that spare glass of Krug!

 

[UP4014]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

They didnt enforce the lavatory rule.
But in some circumstances pax should be able to use it. Kids. Trolley in the way maybe. Maybe they should have pin codes to open them. At least she couldn't get to her bags.

Agree. Not always the best choice making a scramble for the back.

Matt

 

[juddles]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Sad downgrade in VA service. I had a couple of experiences early on of crew refusing to let me as platinum to use empty space in the J overheads. ...

medhead, not sure I understand this - do you mean as a "platinum" travelling in Y there is some right to use J locker space?

 

[juddles]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

When I travel in J I almost always board last (have never understood why everyone is so eager to spend the max amount of time cooped up in a plane - even in J)

So it sh_ts me when the overhead J lockers are full. In any case, I have always been able to accommodate my single carryon in J - even if it requires me to offload some other people's stuff. :/

 

[Milefest]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Sad downgrade in VA service. I had a couple of experiences early on of crew refusing to let me as platinum to use empty space in the J overheads. In one case putting my bag down around row 16, the other removing my bag from that little bit of locker that is over row 3, but extended from J locker space.

My understanding is that it can be used as an overflow for Y pax luggage as long as the J pax have space for their luggage first. I haven't read anywhere that status plays a role in the avaliability or utilisation of the J cabin overhead bins.

 

[Pushka]

SYD > MEL DYNWIA fever

When I travel in J I almost always board last (have never understood why everyone is so eager to spend the max amount of time cooped up in a plane - even in J)

So it sh_ts me when the overhead J lockers are full. In any case, I have always been able to accommodate my single carryon in J - even if it requires me to offload some other people's stuff. :/

That would pee everyone off - and its a risk the FA's take in allowing people to put things there before ensuring that all J's are seated.

The only reason we board early in Y is BECAUSE of getting overhead locker space. Just for one bag each.

Unless the airlines reduce the luggage brought onboard they are part of the problem. But also thought I heard in Hamilton Island this week, the announcement was only 1 cabin item. I looked at my backpack and handbag and hoped it would be ok.

 

[medhead]

re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

medhead, not sure I understand this - do you mean as a "platinum" travelling in Y there is some right to use J locker space?

I mean that, it used to be, that even when there was plenty of space in J the crew would strictly protect the J cabin. Putting aside the issue of showing zero recognition of the supposedly most valued customers and exercising some discretion when there was no disadvantage to the paying J customers and all the issues that involves in keeping those customers engaged with the brand. It is sad to see that the indifference to status in Y is now extending to J customers.

That's what I meant. In terms of your question I also belief that when there is space in J then rather than make your platinum Y pax wait for the entire plane to empty before being able to get their carry on that crew should be able to achieve this little thing called balance.

My understanding is that it can be used as an overflow for Y pax luggage as long as the J pax have space for their luggage first. I haven't read anywhere that status plays a role in the avaliability or utilisation of the J cabin overhead bins.

Not my experience. Including one particularly officious crew member, who might be compared to a female dog.

I'm not at all sad to see my VA flights dropping significantly, even if that reduction isn't for this reason.

 

[JessicaTam]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

The correct acronym is "DYKWIA". It would be a shame if DYNWIA became commonplace as, for me, the "DYK" part perfectly sums up what the whole thing is about.

Title updated.

 

[QF WP]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Seems to me to be happening more on Qantas too of late - particularly as a number of its aircraft no longer have any type of visible and physical barrier between the classes (I'm not very familiar with VA yet so don't know if there's any barrier?)

kermatu, consider thyself familiarised with the cabin divider mentioned by the OP.

I've even seen pax remove it, step forward into J and replace it (just like the FA's do) then continue up to the J toilets without a sideways glance - their temerity knows no bounds.

I've always considered that a polite request to the FA's once all J pax have boarded and stowed their bags had the best chance of success - when I was Plat, I had the need to ask once or twice from Row 3 or 4. Chocs always go down well as a thank you

 

[kermatu]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

For whatever reason I can't see your pic QF WP, but will try later or look out for it myself when I'm on a VA flight in a couple of days.

was on a QF flight today in row 4 of a refurbished 737, several Y passengers just used the J toilet. It wasn't a real problem though this time as there was never a queue. Plus one-third of the J cabin were staff members travelling so weren't full-paying J passengers (not that most Y pax would know that, or it matters).

 

[bwhouse]

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Flew BNE to SYD today, when I got to the gate the priority boarding line was at least as long if not longer than the normal lane. The agent made several comments to people that they shouldn't be in the lane and even made a comment to me about the fact that several people where using the lane that shouldn't be. However still let them all board, I suppose it's a tough call to send people back out to the back of the normal boarding line, but if you don't enforce the rules you can't really expect them to stick.

 

[froggerADL]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

If I was the FA I would have sent her bags as far down the back as I could!

I'd love to see that. Buzz the FA

 

[flydoc]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

Back to the original offender- bet she busted VA's 7kg combined carry-on weight limit too.

 

[Milefest]

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Flew BNE to SYD today, when I got to the gate the priority boarding line was at least as long if not longer than the normal lane. The agent made several comments to people that they shouldn't be in the lane and even made a comment to me about the fact that several people where using the lane that shouldn't be. However still let them all board, I suppose it's a tough call to send people back out to the back of the normal boarding line, but if you don't enforce the rules you can't really expect them to stick.

The scanner should enable an audible alert when an inelegible pax attempts to use the priority boarding lane. Gate staff are consistently hopeless both on VA and QF in enforcing priority boarding in my experience.

 

[drivatruk]

Re: SYD > MEL DYKWIA fever

I have a dodgy gut that sometimes decides its time to go without a lot of warning. Part of the reason i book J is for smaller toilet lines.

 

[russ]

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Airlines give status-Y passengers access to the J lounge and J boarding, so it's no wonder status-Y passengers think they can use the J toilets.

 

[Pushka]

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Airlines give status-Y passengers access to the J lounge and J boarding, so it's no wonder status-Y passengers think they can use the J toilets.

Except you need to show that you are indeed status before you can use the lounges.

 

[MH_fan]

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When I've flown in the USA, Y passengers freely use the F toilets and no one bats an eyelid.

I'm sometimes gobsmacked when I see a Y passenger put their hand luggage in the J overhead bins and then head down towards the middle or even back of the aircraft (even when they're one of the early ones to board)! I love it when we arrive at an airport that also has disembarkation from the rear and they have to wait til the very end before they can access their stuff. LOL! Karma can be a cough sometimes.