Who is going to the USA, who has changed their travel and what will you do differently?

I travel to the US regularly on business. With airfares so high, I have been considering the cheaper fares which go via Asia, although thinking twice about that after the report last week of an Australian who flew Cathay to JFK via Hong Kong being denied entry because CBP could not understand why he took a circuitous route - obviously they don't employ mileage runners!
 
It's never the number. The point is this story is only one side of the story. There is no reason why I should believe his side or any side for that matter. Again what does Homeland Security know about him that we don't?.
I think the concern is the uncertainty. Look border guards of any country are given a fair amount of discretion in determining whether a non-citizen should be allowed into the country. There is an assumption I think by most travellers, and perhaps many on this forum that if you are a law abiding person who has never breached any visa conditions, and meet all relevant visa conditions for the country you are travelling to you should generally be allowed into a country. When that discretion becomes weaponized it creates uncertainty when travelling. Everyone on this forum has done or said something at some point in their life that has offended someone or some people. Now if that becomes weaponized and used as an excuse to prevent you from entering a country like the US then that should be cause for concern. The United States has already cancelled the visas of 300 people on student visas so far, for things like a minor traffic infraction like failing to come to a complete stop at a stop sign or exercising their first amendment rights. This is completely unusual for a democracy. As someone who was on a student visa in Australia, it never occurred to me that I could be deported and have my student visa cancelled for failing to come to a complete stop at a stop sign and I think if Home Affairs did that, there would be an outcry by the Australian public. In the United States, things are more muted. That should be cause for concern.

-RooFlyer88
 
No, the insinuation was that the deportation and visa cancellation was arbitrary.
My point again is that this is only one side of the story..
I sincerely hope you are right that this is only one side of the story and that when the whole truth is known such decisions won't in reality be arbitrary and capricious. However, given what we are seeing elsewhere in the US (i.e. uncertainty in the markets caused by on again off again tariffs) is it not unreasonable for me to infer that this pattern would apply elsewhere given the anecdotes we've seen so far?
 
this is only one side of the story
Of course it is. Simply, what did homeland security know about him that we didn't. As we do not know that it's just a one sided story.

is it not unreasonable for me to infer that this pattern would apply elsewhere
You need only look at the number of travellers on the transpacific routes for your answer. Anyone complain they were deported this weekend?
 
I travel to the US regularly on business. With airfares so high, I have been considering the cheaper fares which go via Asia, although thinking twice about that after the report last week of an Australian who flew Cathay to JFK via Hong Kong being denied entry because CBP could not understand why he took a circuitous route - obviously they don't employ mileage runners!
I was very interested to read that traveller's firsthand account of the incident in the Traveller letters this morning:
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And I was even more interested to read the editor's note underneath the letter:

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It will be very interesting to learn if there are any more takers -- ie. whether this really is part of a larger trend or not. I'd be also interested to know what, if any, diplomatic shenanigans are taking place behind the scenes from Australian diplomats and politicians, and whether they're sitting on their hands and doing nothing or actively trying to smooth the waters and prevent this from happening again. That, however, is a question we'll probably never know the answer to!
 
I was very interested to read that traveller's firsthand account of the incident in the Traveller letters this morning:
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As someone else mentioned, there are always two sides to a story. So now that we've heard the traveller's side, it would be interesting to see the CBP's view on this. Perhaps they know something the traveller doesn't and doesn't want to share it with them. Obviously they likely won't disclose their reasons for this scrutiny.

What I will point out is that the US does scrutinize things and does flag things that seem off. Case in point, back in 2019 I flew from Berlin to Osaka "connecting" in Las Vegas. And by connecting I mean I bought a one-way on EuroWings between Berlin and Las Vegas and then an open jaw from Vegas to Osaka and Osaka to Toronto on United with an overnight stay in Vegas. I did this as it was the cheapest option available, I would earn more miles towards keeping my United Premier Gold status and I could use a friend's United upgrade credits on the return trip to Canada (which I did). Fast forward to check-in at Berlin and I got the dreaded SSSS on the boarding pass and faced enhanced scrutiny all the way to Vegas (despite having Global Entry and thus TSA pre-check). Evidently it was no big deal entering the US, but I was flagged. No doubt the travel itinerary did raise a few eye brows at least on some DHS computer.

-RooFlyer88
 
I saw this on the TV this arvo, I’m guessing it means tourists aswell?

"All foreign nationals present in the United States longer than 30 days must register with the federal government. Failure to comply with this is a crime punishable by fines, imprisonment, or both... If not, you will be arrested, fined, deported, never to return to our country again."
 
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I was very interested to read that traveller's firsthand account of the incident in the Traveller letters this morning:

How does the deportee conclude "you are neither wanted nor welcome" applies to everyone. I get he is not happy but such a conclusory statement does not help his cause

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In my travels I have found US border control no more difficult or easier than anywhere else
 
I suspect this is just a case of media reporting the same kind of stories because it's the flavour of the month. It's like when you get a big story about an aviation incident, every minor incident will get breaking news for the following few weeks. That shouldn't be taken as an increase in occurrences.

US has been deporting people for decades - as has Australia. They have reality TV shows about this stuff.

As a frequent traveller to the US I haven't noticed any difference. If anything, I'd say it's more streamlined and there's fewer questions.

I saw this on the TV this arvo, I’m guessing it means tourists aswell?

"All foreign nationals present in the United States longer than 30 days must register with the federal government. Failure to comply with this is a crime punishable by fines, imprisonment, or both... If not, you will be arrested, fined, deported, never to return to our country again."

That applies to land crossings only. If you've come in on an ESTA via air and then cross by land it's also not required.
 
As a Canadian-Australian, whether to travel to the US is something that has been exercising my mind of late. As things currently stand, I am scheduled to go in November to visit some longstanding friends for Thanksgiving. I have Nexus so will preclear in Canada. But as a Canadian, going to the USA for leisure is not currently comme il faut. I am justifying it to myself on the basis that my friends are getting on and they should not pay a price for a political choice they did not make.
 
If a white man with a valid working visa was deported, why would anyone continue to think it won't happen to them?
For those who think it won’t happen to me had an interesting conversation with my friend/neighbour this week.

His brother in law is CEO of an ASX top 20 company and largely lives in the States, fully legitimate visas etc, though does come back to Oz a lot as family/kids are here.

Him and wife were separated and interrogated for close to an hour on last entry to the US. No thanks, there are plenty of places that welcome tourists!
 
I travel to the US regularly on business. With airfares so high, I have been considering the cheaper fares which go via Asia, although thinking twice about that after the report last week of an Australian who flew Cathay to JFK via Hong Kong being denied entry because CBP could not understand why he took a circuitous route - obviously they don't employ mileage runners!
Given the audience here it’s probably only a matter of time until it happens to one of us if this story is genuine.
 
My perception, is low level functionaries within the state apparatus target those that meet their perception of being "different" to what is the status quo. I feel for trans people who really could be targeted. The regime then empowers these people to use their most base level biases and feel they are not subject to any disciplinary action.
That's the precise reason that I might not return the the US while the current government is in place.
 

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