Anyone heard about a change in earnings rate?

[TheTravelExperience]

I was checking my bookings to tally up SCs for the coming months and saw this notification.

Call me overly dramatic if you will but if QFF goes money based like AY, BA and IB, I will quit OneWorld

 

[AIRwin]

3 months' notice?

 

[TheTravelExperience]

3 months' notice?

and just after a DSC too, ouch

 

[Malus]

Unless I've missed something, when I looked at the tables it seemed to reference Australian domestic only and the points were increasing. Status credits stayed the same. Looked like no correspinding points earn increase for international, which to be honest is disappointing as makes it out of sync.

 

[dylarr]

The changes that go into effect in July were announced back in January, and relate to an increase in the amount of Qantas points earned for QF flights.

Qantas Reveals 2025 Frequent Flyer Program Changes

Qantas Frequent Flyer will raise reward flight and upgrade costs, introduce new redemption options and increase points earn on flights in 2025. We breakdown all of the changes for you...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

Then in August, the cost of most redemptions will increase across the board.

 

[mviy]

Call me overly dramatic if you will but if QFF goes money based like AY, BA and IB, I will quit OneWorld

That could be coming. Apparently QF may make another announcement about further changes later this year.

With more and more airlines going with spend based status there would seem a strong chance that it could happen.

 

[justinbrett]

With more and more airlines going with spend based status there would seem a strong chance that it could happen.

Not really Qantas’s style to follow the pack.

QFF is a huge source of income for them, it is profitable (which includes status), so not the incentive to do a BA and burn the house down, especially when they’re still trying to rebuild their reputation and retain market share from VA.

If it does happen it’s a few years away at least and will be in a unique QF way, not a carbon copy of BA or VA.

 

[eminere]

From the Qantas and Jetstar earning tables:

 

[mviy]

If it does happen it’s a few years away at least and will be in a unique QF way, not a carbon copy of BA or VA.

I hope you are right that it won’t happen soon, but we will see.

 

[henrus]

If it’s just an earning to QF points then fine say that. I saw it and started frantically searching but found this thread and it turns out to be nothing much.

 

[ABC]

Not really Qantas’s style to follow the pack.

QFF is a huge source of income for them, it is profitable (which includes status), so not the incentive to do a BA and burn the house down, especially when they’re still trying to rebuild their reputation and retain market share from VA.

If it does happen it’s a few years away at least and will be in a unique QF way, not a carbon copy of BA or VA.

Presumably Avios is also a huge source of income for IAG.

I would imagine that IAG expect the changes to their programmes to increase revenue/profit to the group rather than reduce it. Time will tell whether they have misjudged this or not.

The current QFF scheme is a virtual carbon copy of the old BA Executive Club. Now BA have moved to the revenue model which seems to be flavour of the month, I would see no reason why any changes to QFF would be very different.

Whilst it might be prudent for QFF to wait to see how it plays out for BA before making similar changes, I'm not sure they will be that patient. I would be surprised if QFF does not move to a revenue model within the next year or so.

I'm probably about 4/5 years away from LTG based on current earning in QFF as it stands, so I would be happy if it doesn't change in that time. For now I'm continuing to credit to QFF in hope rather than expectation.

If they do announce any changes I'll re-evaluate. Hopefully any changes will come with some notice.

 

[justinbrett]

Presumably Avios is also a huge source of income for IAG.

I would imagine that IAG expect the changes to their programmes to increase revenue/profit to the group rather than reduce it. Time will tell whether they have misjudged this or not.

The current QFF scheme is a virtual carbon copy of the old BA Executive Club. Now BA have moved to the revenue model which seems to be flavour of the month, I would see no reason why any changes to QFF would be very different.

Whilst it might be prudent for QFF to wait to see how it plays out for BA before making similar changes, I'm not sure they will be that patient. I would be surprised if QFF does not move to a revenue model within the next year or so.

I'm probably about 4/5 years away from LTG based on current earning in QFF as it stands, so I would be happy if it doesn't change in that time. For now I'm continuing to credit to QFF in hope rather than expectation.

If they do announce any changes I'll re-evaluate. Hopefully any changes will come with some notice.

Comparing apples and oranges with QFF and IAG. I don’t buy the logic that anything any company does must be a good idea otherwise why would they do it? I can’t see many airlines rushing to follow in IAG’s footsteps.

Probably the biggest difference is QF has the Points Club program which is already a revenue based program that sits along side its traditional one, and it also operates Qantas Club, a paid lounge access program.

Revenue based programs (either in earning, redeeming or status) are not new, NZ and DJ had them over a decade ago, and both were QF’s closest competitors.

 

[clifford]

I would be surprised if QFF does not move to a revenue model within the next year or so.

I'm probably about 4/5 years away from LTG based on current earning in QFF as it stands, so I would be happy if it doesn't change in that time. For now I'm continuing to credit to QFF in hope rather than expectation.

If they do announce any changes I'll re-evaluate. Hopefully any changes will come with some notice.

I tend to agree that QF could move to some sort of revenue-based model (not necessarily similar to BAC) within the next year or two.

I'm about 3,000 SC's away from LTG, which would take about 2.5 years to achieve based on my current earning rate. If Qantas does announce the introduction of a revenue model fairly soon, I may well do a few status runs to achieve the required SC's. I would think it would cost in the region of $20,000 (assuming no DSC promos).

 

[mviy]

I too would consider whether to push to get LTG sooner than planned if spend based status is introduced.

 

[cove]

Qantas points have become pesos in 2025. Velocity and Kris Miles still have value. AA Miles have become harder to use.

 

[DC3]

… SC's. I would think it would cost in the region of $20,000 (assuming no DSC promos).

Some patience with a view to plunder the next few DSC offers will go a long way.

 

[Supersonic Swinger]

Qantas points have become pesos in 2025. Velocity and Kris Miles still have value. AA Miles have become harder to use.

That started well before this year, but Classic Plus rewards have accelerated this. Classic Rewards now seem non existent, and PayWith Points and Classic Plus valuing one QFF point at 0.5 to 1 cent, maybe slightly more if you look around. Tweaking the earn rate on domestic flights doesn't change those economics.

 

[justinbrett]

If it’s just an earning to QF points then fine say that. I saw it and started frantically searching but found this thread and it turns out to be nothing much.

The point of that notice is not to advise there will be changes (that was well publicised earlier this year), but to advise that the points listed below for upcoming trips are using the old system, and won’t be updated until 22nd July.

This is also a positive change as it’s an increase to the points earn.