QF and Turkish luggage

[reubenb]

Hi there,

I am flying SYD-BKK (with QF) and BKK-IST (with TK) but they are on separate bookings (booked each through each airline separately).

QF on phone said they will only, as a rule, check luggage through if they are on the same ticket or are OW airlines.

As TK is *A, what do I do? I would assume I would need to go and pick it up in BKK? However, surely they can just put the flight number on the baggage tag?

Thanks in advance!

 

[TheInsider]

They won't be able to put the onward flight on. You will have to pick up your baggage and recheck it in.

 

[reubenb]

Thanks, oh well!

 

[liamg]

Out of interest, why not? They definitely have some kind of agreement... how else would I be able to buy a flight like this one? Surely it's just about convincing the check-in counter to allow the rules to be bent "just this once"...?

 

[mannej]

Out of interest, why not? They definitely have some kind of agreement... how else would I be able to buy a flight like this one? Surely it's just about convincing the check-in counter to allow the rules to be bent "just this once"...?

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Qantas do have an interline agreement with TK it would seem, however, as mentioned previously, they will only interline under certain arrangements.

http://www.qantas.com.au/agents/dyn/qf/policies/ReadytoFlyFAQ191010.pdf

However as they are two different tickets, I would say badluck to the OP.

 

[cmon0005]

Don't some airports give you the option to just goto the transfers counter and they will collect and re-tag your bags onwards, without you having to exit?

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Out of interest, why not? They definitely have some kind of agreement... how else would I be able to buy a flight like this one? Surely it's just about convincing the check-in counter to allow the rules to be bent "just this once"...?

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There is an interline agreement for baggage if the QF & TK flights are on the same ticket however as you have already stated you have two separate bookings so your option is to either collect your luggage in BKK then recheck with TK or take hand luggage only.

 

[mannej]

There is an interline agreement for baggage if the QF & TK flights are on the same ticket however as you have already stated you have two separate bookings so your option is to either collect your luggage in BKK then recheck with TK or take hand luggage only.

Simply- people would like consistency, so this provides it. You still get those who want those one off exceptions. It is these exceptions that breed inconsistency!

 

[JohnK]

Out of interest, why not? They definitely have some kind of agreement... how else would I be able to buy a flight like this one? Surely it's just about convincing the check-in counter to allow the rules to be bent "just this once"...?

Be very careful what you get a check-in agent in SYD to do with luggage as what is supposed to happen and what actually happens may well be 2 totally different things.

In July I was travelling SYD-ICN-MNL on OZ, overnight in MNL and then MNL-HKG-TPE on CX all in business class but on separate tickets. I wasted ~45 minutes at SYD check-in and bags were eventually tagged SYD-ICN-MNL-HKG-TPE. I did not realise though that particular interline meant that bags would be intercepted in MNL by OZ ground staff and stored landside overnight and then physically brought over to CX check-in the next morning. Also wasted time at check-in as well waiting for bags to be brought over.

Golf bag was also damaged but not sure if it was fault of OZ or CX as I did not check the state of the bag in MNL.

 

[dajop]

Out of interest, why not? They definitely have some kind of agreement... how else would I be able to buy a flight like this one? Surely it's just about convincing the check-in counter to allow the rules to be bent "just this once"...?

Qantas used to do this. Their are risks and potential liabilities and costs associated with this. Either to reduce these liabilities and costs, QF implemented a policy a little while ago of only through checking baggage to non-one world carriers which were booked as part of the same booking (or is it same ticket?). You can only through check luggage for different bookings if all the bookings are on one world carriers.

Some airlines (eg SQ) will still through check luggage to anyone except for LCC's regardless of being on same booking or not (unless needing to be collected for customs/quarantine purposes). At the other end, there are airlines that have a tighter policy and simply will not through check luggage on different bookings, even if it is the same alliance, or in some cases even if it is different bookings on the same airline (eg NZ) .

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Qantas used to do this. Their are risks and potential liabilities and costs associated with this. Either to reduce these liabilities and costs.

QF implemented a policy a little while ago of only through checking baggage to non-one world carriers which were booked as part of the same booking (or is it same ticket?).

You can only through check luggage for different bookings if all the bookings are on one world carriers.

The latest policy came into effect 03 Nov 2010 after the Icelandic volcano which caused major disruptions to airline flights to/from Europe.

If QF checked pax luggage on separate pnrs MEL/SIN QF connecting SIN/FRA on LH & the connecting flight was grounded then QF were responsible for accommodating those pax in SIN & all the expenses that go with it.

When it came to rebooking the pax, as the LH flights were booked separately QF were not able to view a ticket nbr, see what class pax were in nor what the remaining flights pax were meant to travel on after that.

With the OW Alliance all members ars able to re-issue each others' tickets.

 

[reubenb]

Thanks guys for all the help! I think I'm just going to take carry-on luggage.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

As you're WP taking hand luggage only, if you do OLCI for the QF23 flight you can enjoy a longer soujourn in the F Lounge as you won't have to wait for airport checkin to open.

Not sure if you can do OLCI for TK - if not just go to the transit desk on arrival at Changi which is airside so no need to clear customs.

 

[mannej]

Pity they aren't flying to Changi!✈

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Pity they aren't flying to Changi!✈

Doh!

Guess the transfer desk at BKK would make more sense.

 

[reubenb]

Just in case anyone does this in the future, as expected at checkin in Sydney they didn't check it all the way because it was on separate ticket, but on the way back Turkish just added the QF flight number on the tag and the bags made it to Sydney.

Interesting that Turkish did it but Qantas didn't. I guess it just proves it doesn't really matter and more a policy thing.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Just in case anyone does this in the future, as expected at checkin in Sydney they didn't check it all the way because it was on separate ticket, but on the way back Turkish just added the QF flight number on the tag and the bags made it to Sydney.

Interesting that Turkish did it but Qantas didn't. I guess it just proves it doesn't really matter and more a policy thing.

It's entirely up to the airline concerned so what the QF policy is will not necessarily be the same as TK irrespective of whether both airlines have an interline baggage agreement.

Weren't you taking carry on luggage in any case?

 

[reubenb]

It's entirely up to the airline concerned so what the QF policy is will not necessarily be the same as TK irrespective of whether both airlines have an interline baggage agreement.

Weren't you taking carry on luggage in any case?

Yeah, but on way back I decided to see what would happen.. Just for fun

 

[mjroberts]

In my experience it really depends on the check in agent.
Technically the answer is 'no' with two seperate tickets, but if sometimes a smile and having all the information on hand (including ticket number) means they will.
I've had a couple of experiences flying BNE-SYD on QF and then SYD-HKG on CX, also SYD-LAX on QF and then LA-Phoenix-Flagstaff on US Airways where they have done it (which avoided having to pay for a bag fee in LAX.. winning!)
They will never say yes over the phone, but you might be lucky on the day

 

[mannej]

In my experience it really depends on the check in agent.
Technically the answer is 'no' with two seperate tickets, but if sometimes a smile and having all the information on hand (including ticket number) means they will.
I've had a couple of experiences flying BNE-SYD on QF and then SYD-HKG on CX, also SYD-LAX on QF and then LA-Phoenix-Flagstaff on US Airways where they have done it (which avoided having to pay for a bag fee in LAX.. winning!)
They will never say yes over the phone, but you might be lucky on the day

You should have no issues with QF-CX on different tickets, as that is a stock standard QF -> Oneworld booking as described in the FAQ's