Retaining points

[ronlon]

Greetings,

My two primary school aged sons have approximately 1500 FF points each. The points will expire in September unless there is activity on their accounts. It is unlikely that they will fly anywhere before September to earn more points.

Can anyone think of a way of retaining these points? A family transfer to my own FF account won’t work as there is a minimum transfer requirement of 5000 points.

I have point earning credit cards but I can’t think of a way how that might be able to assist.

 

[blackcat20]

Transfer 5000 of your points in, then transfer 6500 points back out to yourself.

 

[burmans]

Yep, the circular transaction is the way to go. A to B, B to C, C to A.

 

[andye]

Do it in a chain and you only lose one of your transfers.
5000 ronion to Boy 1
6500 Boy 1 to Boy 2
8000 Boy 2 to ronion

 

[ashleyn]

Careful people, family transfer does not count as activity.

Your Qantas Points will not expire as long as you earn or use Qantas Points (excluding family transfers or the conversion of points from Aquire) through your Frequent Flyer account at least once every 18 months.

 

[andye]

Careful people, family transfer does not count as activity.

Your Qantas Points will not expire as long as you earn or use Qantas Points (excluding family transfers or the conversion of points from Aquire) through your Frequent Flyer account at least once every 18 months.

It wont count as activity for the children but the points are safe once they are in an active account

 

[TheInsider]

Download that search bar and do a search (if that's still around).

 

[ronlon]

I am not sure if the circular transfer idea will work as one of the rules is:

(d) once Qantas Points have been transferred, the transfer cannot be reversed or cancelled by either the Member transferring the Points or the recipient;

I recall from a previous transfer that the points are identified as a transfer in the recipient's account hence will be caught out by the above rule.

 

[medhead]

I am not sure if the circular transfer idea will work as one of the rules is:

(d) once Qantas Points have been transferred, the transfer cannot be reversed or cancelled by either the Member transferring the Points or the recipient;

I recall from a previous transfer that the points are identified as a transfer in the recipient's account hence will be caught out by the above rule.

That does not apply. You are not reversing a transfer. You are starting a new transfer. Besides to reverse or cancel would involve the points going back to the original account. The circle route involves:
First family transfer, 5000 points from you to child 1
Second family transfer, 6500 points from child 1 to child 2
third family transfer, 8000 points from child 2 to you.

3 separate transfers that are not reversed or cancelled. All perfectly within the rules.

 

[andye]

I am not sure if the circular transfer idea will work as one of the rules is:

(d) once Qantas Points have been transferred, the transfer cannot be reversed or cancelled by either the Member transferring the Points or the recipient;

I recall from a previous transfer that the points are identified as a transfer in the recipient's account hence will be caught out by the above rule.

I have done the circular procedure without problem. It is not a reversal. Each stage is a viewed as a new transfer

 

[cjd600]

I have done the back and forth transfer with no problem, to harvest minor dormant balances from the kids
a-b-a

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

I would if I were you take the kids on Jul holidays to pump up the points activity life of QF FF points, if you don't want to do family transfer.
Get them points as close to the point where you don't loose any minuscule points on family transfer.

 

[RichardMEL]

If toolbar isn't an option anymore it's a pity EDR is so much harder or else I'd just get them cards (I don't think there's any age limit there) but since it changed it's fare more difficult to earn via that vs doing a $31 shop

IMHO taking a trip that isn't planned is fare more expensive than the existing points balance is worth, IMHO.

 

[Mr_Orange]

I am not sure if the circular transfer idea will work as one of the rules is:

(d) once Qantas Points have been transferred, the transfer cannot be reversed or cancelled by either the Member transferring the Points or the recipient;

I recall from a previous transfer that the points are identified as a transfer in the recipient's account hence will be caught out by the above rule.

As others have said, the circular transfer is fine. I have done it to hoover up points in my parents' accounts.

 

[mannej]

Download that search bar and do a search (if that's still around).

Yes it is - 1 search for each son and their accounts remain active for the next 18 months post the date the point hits their account.

QFF Toolbar

 

[JohnK]

The circular transfer as mentioned will achieve the desired result without any issues.

Where the problem with transfers would lie is if transferring points to an account about to become inactive is all the points will expire unless transferred out.

 

[Boca68]

The circular transfer as mentioned will achieve the desired result without any issues.

Where the problem with transfers would lie is if transferring points to an account about to become inactive is all the points will expire unless transferred out.

Exactly what JohnK said. You are transferring the points from an inactive account/s to an active account. Upon which they become 'live' again.

 

[eminere]

The circular transfer as mentioned will achieve the desired result without any issues.

And it has the bonus of not spending unnecessary sums of money to take the children on holiday, just to result in even more orphaned points down the road.

 

[medhead]

Exactly what JohnK said. You are transferring the points from an inactive account/s to an active account. Upon which they become 'live' again.

To put it another way, points expiry is property of the account, not the points.

 

[burmans]

Yes it is - 1 search for each son and their accounts remain active for the next 18 months post the date the point hits their account.

QFF Toolbar

Hmm, so can toolbar searches be automated?