Okay, I’ve done the maths, and switching from Alinta’s 28% discount off usage rates to Red Energy’s Red Saver (not Red Plus) 10% of total bill plan (not just usage like Alinta) works out $2.50 per quarter cheaper for me (in Qld, elec only). It took me an hour to work it out, but I compared my last Alinta account to what I would be paying had I been with Red Energy’s Red Saver plan, and it works out a fraction cheaper ($2.50) AND I get 10000 Qantas points, AND 2 points per $1 spent on bill. I also supplied a “refer a friend” number that someone from here posted, so we/I will get a $50 Coles/Myer voucher apparently (not sure if that is still a current incentive though as there’s was no reference to it when I signed up) AND I can pay with my AMEX card to get those reward points as well.