Article: Daytime Flights from Asia to Australia

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I’ve managed to snag QF72 as a reward flight with onward connection to SYD mid morning the following day for the same points as the nonstop redeyes. The o/n hotel room was orders of magnitude cheaper than paying for J.

I hadn’t realised there were so many JQ options. Must investigate that more.

I have found that those daytime flights on SQ and CX etc tend to be a little more $ than the overnight options…
 
SYD said:
I have found that those daytime flights on SQ and CX etc tend to be a little more $ than the overnight options…
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Not sure about CX, but SQ daytime flights provide most of the connections from Europe to Australia. There are only 4 flights from Europe that connect with the overnight flights to Australia (LHR x 2, CDG, FRA) whilst there are 10-12 that connect with the daytime flights.
 
dajop said:
Not sure about CX, but SQ daytime flights provide most of the connections from Europe to Australia. There are only 4 flights from Europe that connect with the overnight flights to Australia (LHR x 2, CDG, FRA) whilst there are 10-12 that connect with the daytime flights.
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Yes, we are fortunate that Australia is very well served by SQ. Certainly better than our "national carrier."
 
I’m going to risk Jetstar for a SIN to MEL daytime trip this week.

Departure SIN at 06:55 on 3K243 connecting in DPS to JQ44 which arrives in MEL at 21:15.

It’s sold as one booking. I paid for business class which gets some perks included in the fare on the non business class 3K flight such as extra legroom seats, meals, checked luggage and a 14kg carry-on allowance.

How it will go and what the transit arrangement will be in DPS remains to be seen.

I did it to avoid an overnight flight and have a premium economy like day flight(s).
 
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dajop said:
Not sure about CX, but SQ daytime flights provide most of the connections from Europe to Australia. There are only 4 flights from Europe that connect with the overnight flights to Australia (LHR x 2, CDG, FRA) whilst there are 10-12 that connect with the daytime flights.
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If you try and book Oz-SIN return, the return flights tend to be more expensive on the morning departures (day flights). Can be about $200 to $300 in whY.

I used to see it also in J when I was doing a bit of back and fourth. I know it sounds precious but even in J, the red eye back is kind of too short to properly sleep (obviously better than in whY), so I would try and do daytime flights both ways.
 
Seasonally, SQ has a daytime flight SIN ADL in addition to its regular morning arrivals in ADL.

Just don't ask me what the season is! I can never work it out.
 
Anna said:
Seasonally, SQ has a daytime flight SIN ADL in addition to its regular morning arrivals in ADL.

Just don't ask me what the season is! I can never work it out.
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That one seems to be for a couple of months over summer (December and January), I think.
 
SYD said:
If you try and book Oz-SIN return, the return flights tend to be more expensive on the morning departures (day flights). Can be about $200 to $300 in whY.

I used to see it also in J when I was doing a bit of back and fourth. I know it sounds precious but even in J, the red eye back is kind of too short to properly sleep (obviously better than in whY), so I would try and do daytime flights both ways.
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Not disagreeing, and really quite familiar with this, but merely suggesting that one of the reasons why this is the case, is that there are so many connections to these day flights. Europe, US, South Africa, Japan, Korea, India/Sri Lanka/Bangladesh/Nepal, DXB, even Jakarta all connect to the one or two (per city) daytime flights to Australia.

I find Scoot daytime flight a reasonable compromise, particularly in Scoot Plus or the "Super Seats" (which cost very little extra).
 
Sadly these days most day time flights are forced into darkness when crew slam shut (or dim and lock) window shades. I’d almost prefer an overnight flight than a day flight in enforced darkness, especially if connecting from a European flight where daylight would really help circadian rhythms on the final leg south to Australia with minimal timezone traversal. Going up to Asia on day flights I also find I’m noticeably more fatigued if the crew insisted on darkness. I know it’s a perennial debate on avgeek forums whether blinds should be open or closed and I risk opening a can of worms, but it’s worth mentioning that long haul day flights are seldom bathed in natural light these days, including those that don’t have issues with “inconvenient sunrise” mid flight like some Eastbound trips.
 
Austman said:
I’m going to risk Jetstar for a SIN to MEL daytime trip this week.

Departure SIN at 06:55 on 3K243 connecting in DPS to JQ44 which arrives in MEL at 21:15.

It’s sold as one booking. I paid for business class which gets some perks included in the fare on the non business class 3K flight such as extra legroom seats, meals, checked luggage and a 14kg carry-on allowance.

How it will go and what the transit arrangement will be in DPS remains to be seen.

I did it to avoid an overnight flight and have a premium economy like day flight(s).
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Austman,
Please post and tell us how your experience was. Very curious about this. Jetstar for me to be avoided like the plague! I too, am not a fan of o/night flights from Asia to Australia.
Cheers
 
It's not Asia, but it is Westbound travel that also suffers from all redeye flights.

Australia - Hawaii. QF, JQ, HA & NZ (via AKL) are all overnight.

Yet the flight times allow for a day flight - depart SYD around 0900, land in HNL around 2200 (it would need to leave an hour earlier during AEDT).

If QF/JQ ever launches a BNE-HNL service (and I think it should now that HA have pulled out), I reckon it would be good to reverse the times (BNE-HNL day, HNL-BNE night). The overnight HNL-Australia flight would allow a lot of connections from AA/AS as that fits in with their overnight wave.
 
Fun fact (related), is that it is entirely possible to do eastbound travel from Europe to Australia via the ME, over three days, all on "daytime flights". Take a middle east carrier to Asia then a separate carrier from Asia. After March 26 can even do all on EK ... LHR-DXB 0905/1910, DXB-SIN 0920/2055, SIN-MEL 1025/1935. Adds 24 hrs tot the journey though.
 
justinbrett said:
If QF/JQ ever launches a BNE-HNL service (and I think it should now that HA have pulled out), I reckon it would be good to reverse the times (BNE-HNL day, HNL-BNE night). The overnight HNL-Australia flight would allow a lot of connections from AA/AS as that fits in with their overnight wave.
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I flew BNE-HNL on Jetstar in around 2015. It was a ~5pm departure, arriving in HNL at 6am - and was about as fun as it sounds :(
 
dajop said:
Fun fact (related), is that it is entirely possible to do eastbound travel from Europe to Australia via the ME, over three days, all on "daytime flights". Take a middle east carrier to Asia then a separate carrier from Asia. After March 26 can even do all on EK ... LHR-DXB 0905/1910, DXB-SIN 0920/2055, SIN-MEL 1025/1935. Adds 24 hrs tot the journey though.
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That could come in handy though for those of us who suffer jet lag worse than others … I’d actually consider it.
 

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