A Complete, Updated List of Fifth-Freedom Routes

[Mattg]

Well it looks like Qantas hasn't learnt from its recent fine. I found it selling QF11/12 as part of a standalone US domestic itinerary on the Qantas website...

 

[rock86]

Well it looks like Qantas hasn't learnt from its recent fine. I found it selling QF11/12 as part of a standalone US domestic itinerary on the Qantas website...

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That screenshot is for an award booking is it not...

 

[Mattg]

That screenshot is for an award booking is it not...

Yes it is. Does that make a difference? (Genuine question - I assume the rule applies to both revenue and award bookings but could be wrong!)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Yes it is. Does that make a difference? (Genuine question - I assume the rule applies to both revenue and award bookings but could be wrong!)

Award ticket makes no difference. If you don't have traffic rights you can't carry passengers.

Out of interest - does it actually let you book the seat? Or is it phantom.

 

[rock86]

Yes it is. Does that make a difference? (Genuine question - I assume the rule applies to both revenue and award bookings but could be wrong!)

I had no idea either, that's why I just stated the point hoping someone wiser would answer (thanks @MEL_Traveller ).

 

[blandy62]

JetStar Asia has TPE-KIX and MNL-KIX

 

[ellen10]

Still trying to plan our exit flight from Australia to be booked in a few months time for next year.
Is it better to look at a multi flight e.g. Sydney to Hong Kong and then Hong Kong to London as they appear. But Hong Kong only being a transit.
Because sometimes when I put in a flight to London its hard to see any J seats.

 

[JessicaTam]

Still trying to plan our exit flight from Australia to be booked in a few months time for next year.
Is it better to look at a multi flight e.g. Sydney to Hong Kong and then Hong Kong to London as they appear. But Hong Kong only being a transit.
Because sometimes when I put in a flight to London its hard to see any J seats.

This is the 5th freedom thread.

 

[AIRwin]

Still trying to plan our exit flight from Australia to be booked in a few months time for next year.

This is the 5th freedom thread.

Exit flight = freedom?

 

[ellen10]

This is the 5th freedom thread.

Oops sorry wrong thread

 

[AFF Editor]

From July 2018, Egyptair will add a twice-weekly BKK-HKG tag onto their existing Thailand flights. (Will be interesting to see their fares. Nice departure time from BKK. The return gets in quite late.)

EGYPTAIR proposing Hong Kong launch in July 2018

I've removed this from the list as it appears Egyptair has no local traffic rights to sell tickets between BKK and HKG.

 

[zainman]

Hi all,

Do we know if the China Airlines MEL CHC route is still available? I can’t seem to find any dates at all for it even into next year!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Hi all,

Do we know if the China Airlines MEL CHC route is still available? I can’t seem to find any dates at all for it even into next year!

I thought it was cancelled late 2017?

 

[AFF Editor]

I thought it was cancelled late 2017?

I think you're right. Have removed it from the list.

 

[AIRwin]

AirAsia X will be pulling out of AKL:
AirAsia quits New Zealand: Thousands told to contact 'Customer Happiness' team

 

[AIRwin]

SilkAir to give up some routes to Scoot ahead of merger with SIA; Scoot to suspend flights to Honolulu

 

[MEL_Traveller]

This is the annoying thing about LCCs... they cherry pick routes they think will be popular, and then decide to terminate them. Air Asia did this with London or whatever. Scoot doing this for Hawaii. Norwegian is cutting back. Pimera bankrupt.

There's a short window where LCCs might be good for competition... but long term?

 

[jase05]

This is the annoying thing about LCCs... they cherry pick routes they think will be popular, and then decide to terminate them. Air Asia did this with London or whatever. Scoot doing this for Hawaii. Norwegian is cutting back. Pimera bankrupt.

There's a short window where LCCs might be good for competition... but long term?

Hopefuly Air Asia are in long term for AVV

 

[blandy62]

seems that Egyptair has 5th freedom on BKK-HKG. Druk air Terminated CCU-SIN and replaced it by GAU-SIN. Theyalso have IXB-BKK . It seems that Ural doesn't fly PEk-KBV anymore

 

[AFF Editor]

seems that Egyptair has 5th freedom on BKK-HKG. Druk air Terminated CCU-SIN and replaced it by GAU-SIN. Theyalso have IXB-BKK . It seems that Ural doesn't fly PEk-KBV anymore

Thank you, list updated.