Air NZ to permit staff to show visible tattoos

[odysseus]

come on people. tone it down with the fake outrage and pretend ignorance.
I'd like to think we, of this forum, are well traveled and cultured enough.

Traditional Maori tattoos are not in the same category as gang tattoos or the variety that's common with the drunk caucasian set.

But the policy isn't "Traditional Maori tattoos" only.

 

[burmans]

This is where debates within a forum can get messy.

IMHO you could also be accused of being prejudiced in a very strong sense in your response. You are here actually "pre-judging me" based on "some of my attributes" (your words), in that you appear to be expousing things based just on a few scant lines I put in a single post. To suggest that I "need to accept that there are things in our culture that may be abhorrent" implies that I do not actually do that. Such a statement was not seeking to understand my view, it was responding in a way that judged me without seeking first such clarification. even worse, it could make others form an opinion of me (dare not say pre-judge me) based just on your words...... It ignores the fact that I did not refer to this aspect. I actually hate and am embarrassed by some aussie culture.

And in a similar vein, there have been posters in this thread that have expressed opinions against tattoos in the workplace. These range from some who hate all tatts, to others like myself that feel that tatts are complex and perhaps not a smart idea for a particular service industry company to embrace. I think we all need to actually understand that there are various positions here.

I am against prejudice, in the sense that I want people to think and embrace change. I sense that you have strong feelings in these matters, and good on you for fighting for what you think is right. But be careful you don't fall into doing exactly what you dislike in others At the end of the day I think we essentially share much of the same page

I'm truely sorry you feel I was implying anything actually, my words are intended to be taken literally and without implication. My personality is such that if I wanted to say it I would probably have just said it (I've been described at times as blunt).

In relation to comments about "The word itself of course does not mean that, it just means you have pre-judged someone based on some of their attributes.", I was using the word "you" in relation to explaining the term prejudice and hence meant that term in its wider usage which according to the Oxford dictionary is "used to refer to any person in general" as opposed to the you in specific usage.

Similary in the sentence "Sure but you equally need to accept that there are things in our culture that may be abhorrent to them!" this was intended as a statement about all of us and there was no intention implied or otherwise that you (personally) did not do this, it was intended as a general discourse on how we treat others. I could probably in retrospect have been clearer on this.

I do suspect we are close in opinions really also.