Airfares to US to drop?

[Quickstatus]

All seems like a waste of effort to this lil' black duck.

I'll close out this lil' off topic subsection with a question. Why does the marathon winner who runs for 2hrs get the same medal as the 100m winner who runs for 10sec?.
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Coming back to airfares.
I wonder what will happen to oil prices.

 

[p--and--t]

I think L.A. were the first in decades to spin a profit weren't they, in 1984?
And few have been anything but a major loss since.
However I don't know if all gains are included in the calculations properly; Sydney is still using the OG precinct a lot (more so as time goes by), the athlete accommodation is now thousands of family homes which is prolly a good thing given the lack of such things in general, a lot of the minor venues get used a lot by the Sport Nutters who do things there ... but the calculations on gain:loss are only going to be stuff like tourism revenue (although AFAIK Sydney & by extension the rest of Oz had a massive step-up in That Sort Of Thing as a result of the Limpix).

I personally CGAF about sportsball, people running around, people jumping in ponds and trying to be the first to the other end, etc etc etc. All seems like a waste of effort to this lil' black duck.

On the other side I don't mind looking at some of the OG sports but depise the media saturation/talking heads of the boofheads running around chasing after the Sherrin leather products

 

[Quickstatus]

Sherrin leather products

Steeden actually. The tight shorts mob is Sherrin

 

[elanshin]

Back to airfares.

Im legitimately curious now with everything thats been happening, who (anywhere) would want to holiday in the US anymore. Whether it's USD, general cost, boycott etc.

Those with holidays locked in of course are a bit stuck but for those undecided, surely at this point there would be very little incentive to visit that isn't for family or business reasons right?

 

[p--and--t]

Steeden actually

Not in AU (to which I was referring)

Not interested in the US version either.

 

[Quickstatus]

surely at this point there would be very little incentive to visit that isn't for family or business reasons right?

I think this is mostly overstated.

 

[RSD]

Those with holidays locked in of course are a bit stuck but for those undecided, surely at this point there would be very little incentive to visit that isn't for family or business reasons right?

HELL NO!!!!

I actually renewed my annual travel insurance policy today - cover for the U.S. and Nepal was additional - told the agent that I won't be needing that this time.

 

[justinbrett]

Back to airfares.

Im legitimately curious now with everything thats been happening, who (anywhere) would want to holiday in the US anymore. Whether it's USD, general cost, boycott etc.

Those with holidays locked in of course are a bit stuck but for those undecided, surely at this point there would be very little incentive to visit that isn't for family or business reasons right?

AUD vs EUR, GBP or even JPY isn't much better.

 

[jyg]

Ben Groundwater - boring and predictable

Ben groundwater sounds like such a basic white man. For all the travel he has done you would think he would have developed aroe interesting character/perspectives

 

[DAC1]

I just landed in ORD after flying SYD-HKG-ORD on CX. Used MPC, there was no notable difference in the CBP process compared to any of my 2023 or 2024 visits.

 

[Aeryn]

I typically go to the USA every 2-3 years, sometimes more frequently, to catch up with friends, colleagues, see some new Broadway shows and buy staple clothing items like jeans because I can't get the styles I want in my size here in Australia.

I'm a fan of coming home form Europe via the USA because award availablity is usually much easier to get and the luggage allowances are higher to accommodate my shopping.

But with the AUD so low there would have to record low airfares to go to the US this year or next. Instead before the tarrifs start impacting too much Im going to do some online sales shopping, have everything shipped free to a uS based friend and just fork out the $50 for her to ship to me; whilst holidaying elsewhere.

 

[BCons]

Extract from an AP online article on a drop in tourism numbers to US:
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Marco Jahn is the president and CEO of New World Travel, a California company that works with overseas tour operators on vacation packages and activity planning. It arranges the hotels and rental cars for a family that wants to take a driving tour of U.S. national parks, for example.

Jahn said bookings have dropped between 20% and 50%, depending on the source market, over the last eight to 10 weeks. He notes particular declines from Scandinavia, where Trump’s repeated threat to take control of Greenland, a self-governing territory of NATO ally Denmark, has antagonized citizens.

“The U.S. is not perceived as a welcoming destination,” Jahn said.

Beyond, a revenue management platform for vacation rental owners, said Canadian searches for short-term rentals in the U.S. plunged 44% after Feb. 1, when Trump first announced a since-paused 25% tariff on goods from Canada and Mexico. Florida, Texas and New York were among the hardest-hit markets, Beyond said.

The federal government’s National Travel and Tourism Office released preliminary figures Tuesday showing visits to the U.S. from overseas fell 11.6% in March compared to the same month last year. The figures did not include arrivals from Canada, which is scheduled to report tourism data later this week, or land crossings from Mexico. But air travel from Mexico dropped 23%

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Article here : US expected a big travel year, but overseas visitors — angered by Trump — are heading elsewhere

 

[scaredeycat]

This discussion seems to have forgotten about the title of the thread.

Surely airfares are influenced by economic shocks? And when the working and middle class of America suddenly find the cost of living sky-rocketing isn't that liable to modify the prices we have to pay?

 

[p--and--t]

Had 3 months in US during GFC, unbelievably cheap. 5 star hotels USD40-50. Cheap clothing etc. CR J seats on A380 easy to get.

If this waywardly steered economic titanic isn't turned around soon then it will be as bad or worse than 2009.

 

[RSD]

Had 3 months in US during GFC, unbelievably cheap. 5 star hotels USD40-50. Cheap clothing etc. CR J seats on A380 easy to get.

If this waywardly steered economic titanic isn't turned around soon then it will be as bad or worse than 2009.

Too long ago for me to remember - was that when our dollar was buying up around $1.12 US$ ?

 

[mrsterryn]

Would air fares drop with increases with fuel from the USA side though ? Isn't airplane fuel likely to impacted with this current situation?
Note this isn't discussing the tariffs per say , just discussing the topic "are air fares to USA to drop "

 

[laffer]

Trump will claim a great deal and that will be the end of it. Soon. Perhaps. Who knows? Although airfares might drop to the US (hopefully in the premium cabins) the decline in the Aussie Dollar might significantly offset any savings when you arrive. I have debated a trip there in recent times. However, I was planning to go up via HKG but see an article in the SMH of someone getting declined entry for taking such a route. At least according to the article. You would like to think there was something more. But who knows with Trumps USA.

 

[dajop]

The airfare thing … so much chance it could go either way, I reckon!

Yeh, even if economic conditions do significantly deteriorate it could swing either way. The American carriers have a lot of capacity discipline these days, and significant loss of yield may translate to cuts in capacity and this push fares back up a bit. Likewise with QF, they could choose to redeploy onto Asia or PER-Europe if they felt the margin wasn't there for them in the US, particularly for the premium cabins.