Airport security screening

[Renaissance]

Hi, just travelled Syd to Mel on Virgin, went through the usual screening, and was told to remove watch. I received a pat search and nothing was found of course and was told again to remove the watch and put through the scanner. I refused and was told by the supervisor it was not necessary and let go. Does anyone know the rules on jewellery etc that is exposed. I heard a lot of theft on the scanner and not prepared to take a chance.

 

[henrus]

Does anyone know the rules on jewellery etc that is exposed.

As found in the Aviation Transport Security Act 2004:

"A screening officer may request a person to remove items of clothing or undergo a frisk search for screening purposes—but may not require this. However, if a person refuses to comply with such a request and the screening officer is unable to screen the person properly, the screening officer must refuse to allow the person to pass the screening point."

On the home affairs website they also state the following lumping jewellery in as an item of clothing:

"Remove bulky outer wear clothing (e.g. coats, jacket), hats and jewellery, and place them in the tray."

At the end of the day if you're asked to remove it at a security check in Australia and refuse, they are also within their rights to deny you access to the secure area of the airport meaning you can't take the flight. You got lucky that the supervisor didn't care but in the future if you come across someone who is having a bad day you might not end up flying if you refuse.

Compared to many airports around the world I see the theft component a very small risk in Australian domestic airports but if you are concerned then I'd recommend placing all items in a bag instead of lose in a tray. There is also nothing preventing you from also locking your baggage when it's going through the xray and finally the big one is don't leave until it's gone into the xray or the screening staff are about to push it through. For the most part the xrays are slow and you can beat it through and I know at some airports there may be a queue for the body scanner but you are allowed to wait at the xray for the body scanner queue to clear before going through so you can stay with your baggage.

 

[Franky]

As found in the Aviation Transport Security Act 2004:


On the home affairs website they also state the following lumping jewellery in as an item of clothing:

"Remove bulky outer wear clothing (e.g. coats, jacket), hats and jewellery, and place them in the tray."

At the end of the day if you're asked to remove it at a security check in Australia and refuse, they are also within their rights to deny you access to the secure area of the airport meaning you can't take the flight. You got lucky that the supervisor didn't care but in the future if you come across someone who is having a bad day you might not end up flying if you refuse.

Compared to many airports around the world I see the theft component a very small risk in Australian domestic airports but if you are concerned then I'd recommend placing all items in a bag instead of lose in a tray. There is also nothing preventing you from also locking your baggage when it's going through the xray and finally the big one is don't leave until it's gone into the xray or the screening staff are about to push it through. For the most part the xrays are slow and you can beat it through and I know at some airports there may be a queue for the body scanner but you are allowed to wait at the xray for the body scanner queue to clear before going through so you can stay with your baggage.

Have used the small bag like you for a while now, and having two replacement knees, I know I'm always going to spring the alarm and then suffer the full montey of pat downs, hand scans, etc. I've told this yarn before, but the funniest thing hppened in AUH from memory when I set off the scanner, and I pointed at my knees to the securrity man in his white robes. He said pull your trousers up, and he checked my scars and waved me thru. Quickest I've been able to get thru anywhere.

 

[serfty]

What type of security screening devices are in use at ADL these days?

Most Australian domestic ports in are in a state of flux between the narrow rectangular walk through and those that require standing sideways.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Still the old walk through, straight ahead.
Not the side ways hands akimbo like the int sec screening type yet.
Roller in oblong box.
They still ask if any laptops etc in bag, so it would have to be taken out of bag and put on separate tray.
I don't think they have that division/divided system, unless I am mistaken.
O, not to mention, they also do have the residue test for you know what, and they can pick 5 people to do it with the same wand, no, not drugs, but not sure if I can mention the b word on here, like the v word which is a nono on here.

 

[kpc]

I preemptively put my phone, watch, belt if worn, wallet, handkerchief, tissues etc into my carryon b4 going through security

 

[Harrison_133]

What type of security screening devices are in use at ADL these days?

Most Australian domestic ports in are in a state of flux between the narrow rectangular walk through and those that require standing sideways.

They have both. The screening lanes on the right hand side have the new machines where everything stays in your bag and you’re scanned standing sideways. The rest of the lanes are the items out and walk through set up.

 

[RooFlyer]

They have both. The screening lanes on the right hand side have the new machines where everything stays in your bag and you’re scanned standing sideways. The rest of the lanes are the items out and walk through set up.

Any intelligence on which lines move quicker, on average?

 

[UP4014]

As someone else suggested, I remove everything into my carry on including watch and belt.

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Any intelligence on which lines move quicker, on average?

You can't pick and choose.
Because if you try and use the face forward lane, the "guard" might get a bit festidious/festicious, and make you go to the other lane.
Dom/int sec screening, best not to play with trying for the shortest queue, those people have a mind of their own, ...
Its like the b residue screening with the wand, sometimes, you most expect to be picked, but the guard just couldn't care less, but other times, when you hope you won't get picked, you are just unlucky, and you are the one, then they have the gall to ask, "o and where are you going to today?".
If they can mix a group of 5, how do they know which of the 5 is the one who is positive?.
Just like, when you know your HLO has not got any sus items, and then, it gets side sided to the extra sec side, and you get the b residue test, they wont tell you anything, then you wait, the b residue guy says all clear but your HLO is sitting mixed with others, in the middle of no mens/persons land, wait, and wait...
Or it sits in the middle of the scan machine, with the guy staring hard at what you have...
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Hmm, thought ADL only had the straight ahead human xray, not the sideways one as yet.
Edit: drats, so the hands akimbo side ways xray system has arr into ADL airport now, ah, must have been a recent intro.
Sorry.
When I went through in Jul, I think all the human xray system was face forward type.

 

[jase05]

Any intelligence on which lines move quicker, on average?

The ones on the right are far slower and as that’s where you end up coming via the Premium lane your natural instinct is to stay that side. I’ve got sick of watching the “normal” line move at double speed and have voiced my displeasure numerous times. Whilst it’s great that everything stays in your bag you have to remove your belt and I always end up getting scanned twice as it picks up a piece of fluff or something on my back

 

[luckypierre]

Whilst it’s great that everything stays in your bag you have to remove your belt and I always end up getting scanned twice as it picks up a piece of fluff or something on my back

And with the new style sideways stance scanner always receive a manual hands on pat down afterwards.

 

[Himeno]

Any intelligence on which lines move quicker, on average?

Lines which don't have pointless body scanners

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Seriously tho, I still prefer the dom sec screening system, ie face straight ahead walk through system.
But I guess the side way akimbo sort of screening, like they have on the outgoing int sec screening system, will slowly be be prevalently used.
The stop, and face sideways one, with the akimbo, ie, hands held out, I feel, takes more time.

 

[drron]

The problem with the older walk through system is there are many people like me with metal joints. We always set off the alarm so always get a wanding and often a pat down.
And in some airports the line is closed whilst this secondary screening is done.

 

[RooFlyer]

Before you even hit the trays and rollers area, you can put all your phones, watches etc either into a jacket pocket or into the top of your carry on, get the laptop out and then dump those straight into a tray and walk through the x-ray. If there’s no one in front of you, it can be all one non-stop action. When your carry-on, coat etc appears, pick up the trays, carry them away from the screen area, assemble everything again and then walk on.

The "leave everything in your bags", but take everything off yourself, including tissues etc, then stop for a high tech scan, wait for result, means no matter how prepared everyone in the line is, they will have to stop and go through one by one slowly.

 

[adammarcos]

Hi, just travelled Syd to Mel on Virgin, went through the usual screening, and was told to remove watch. I received a pat search and nothing was found of course and was told again to remove the watch and put through the scanner. I refused and was told by the supervisor it was not necessary and let go. Does anyone know the rules on jewellery etc that is exposed. I heard a lot of theft on the scanner and not prepared to take a chance.Nox Vidmate VLC

Most Australian domestic ports in are in a state of flux between the narrow rectangular walk through and those that require standing sideways.

 

[Scarlett]

For, if I recall correctly, the first time ever, I was told not to worry about taking my laptop out whilst preparing to go through domestic security screening in Indonesia. (I had already taken it out and was putting in in a tray, so popped it back into my backpack)
Looked like the same older style scanners prevalent in airports so I thought that was interesting.

Whilst waiting for the bag to come through and noticing how little attention the scanning operator was paying, it made a little more sense… I wonder if it was even operating?

 

[Seat0B]

For, if I recall correctly, the first time ever, I was told not to worry about taking my laptop out whilst preparing to go through domestic security screening in Indonesia. (I had already taken it out and was putting in in a tray, so popped it back into my backpack)
Looked like the same older style scanners prevalent in airports so I thought that was interesting.

Whilst waiting for the bag to come through and noticing how little attention the scanning operator was paying, it made a little more sense… I wonder if it was even operating?

I stayed in Jakarta at Hotel Borobudur twice in 2012 and twice in 2013, and they had an airport style scanner for bags and a metal detector for people on the way into the foyer. It 100% was not operating! On any of those visits. But you still had to put your bags through it and walk through the metal detector. I'm pretty sure that didn't work either as I had a knee replacement and it did not even peep! I know a hotel is a bit less than an airport, but I think performative security is a real thing in Indonesia!

 

[marki]

And with the new style sideways stance scanner always receive a manual hands on pat down afterwards.

they check for balls