Alipay/WeChat Pay in China

[Forg]

Is that paranoia I sniff in the air? Mind you we all prefer different airlines huh?

It’s not paranoia, it’s just something everyone should be aware of … any time you do anything online, someone is gathering the information about what you did in the hope that either (a) they can use it to profit themselves or (b) someone else will pay for it. Doing that something online via CCP-controlled software means it’s gonna be archived with the CCP.

Is Google worse than the CCP? I can’t really answer that! Google just wants to extract money from me whereas the CCP wants to totally control me, I guess from my POV that makes the CCP worse.

 

[odysseus]

I don‘t think you’d need to be a conspiracy theorist to think that the CCP can get past that.

For example, there’s a TikTok app for iDevices.

Of course there is. If you download a tiktok app then you sign up to a Chinese owned app.

That's completely different from having additional spyware installed, that is not removed when you uninstall.

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You're being niaive to think state actors can't get around this. I mean heck, the Saudis got into Jeff Bezo's iPhone just iwth a malicous video sent to his whatsapp!

What would I really know though. I've only got a software development background working in cyber security now.

Comparing a widespread deployment to a targeted one is completely different - as most people familiar with security would be aware.

And using an example of exploiting a vulnerability through an app already installed does nothing to prove your argument that spyware remains after the app is uninstalled.

 

[Viridis]

Forgive the ignorance ….. I haven’t been to China since about 2018.

My recollection is that I paid for the hotel by tapping my iPhone on the hotel terminal (ie using Apple Pay)

I can’t recall other transactions

But are you saying that in the present era (post the Trump/Xi squabble) that we now have to download a local App to make phone wallet payments?

As an aside, I notice that Woolworths (I think) now use Alipay terminals when you tap to pay ref @Daver6 concerns about the transfer of data

 

[moa999]

Forgive the ignorance ….. I

This is more for smaller payments at small merchants or public transport, and can integrate Rideshare like Didi.

Hotels should still accept western credit cards.

 

[kamchatsky]

Forgive the ignorance ….. I haven’t been to China since about 2018.

My recollection is that I paid for the hotel by tapping my iPhone on the hotel terminal (ie using Apple Pay)

I can’t recall other transactions

But are you saying that in the present era (post the Trump/Xi squabble) that we now have to download a local App to make phone wallet payments?

As an aside, I notice that Woolworths (I think) now use Alipay terminals when you tap to pay ref @Daver6 concerns about the transfer of data

If it is big brand international hotels, they still take Visa MC Amex. But for everything else, there is Wechat Pay and AliPay.

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This is more for smaller payments at small merchants or public transport, and can integrate Rideshare like Didi.

Hotels should still accept western credit cards.

Not all hotels. I stayed a local one that didn't take that.