AMEX not accepted or surcharge

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I used to report every business via that website but haven't done so for quite a while now, I think about 6 months.

Most of the places I go accept Amex with no surcharge, if not I shop elsewhere
 
I agree with you,

2% is a fair figure as a Merchant I can charge up to the true cost of my merchant fees.

My argument is I know Amex levies just 1% on some local merchants. They need to be less greedy with others.
 
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Small business owners in particular, have to be a bit astute. Simplistically, they will simply note that almost no-one uses Amex with them, or rather, no-one wants to pay the surcharge so they use a different form of payment. On its surface this would appear to work in the businesses favour. You get a cheaper transaction and made a percent or so more margin.

But really, whats going on is that Jaycar simply won't know that the 30-40K a year that we put through Altronics is business they will never see because of the Amex problem. If a business is actually losing money on retail sales by accepting Amex, well, fair enough, don't accept it or surcharge if you must, but I'd hesitate to say that there are more deep seated problems with a business model that can't withstand a 2% hit in order to gain more business.

Now, of course, 40K a year won't keep Altronics doors open, but we can't possibly be the only business in Australia who uses a corporate amex purchasing card. Multiply things out and the income that Jaycar is now signalling that they no longer want is probably a sizeable sum. Not only that, but business (in particular) who use Amex for purchasing are likely exactly the customers you'd actually want. Relatively few purchase orders for a relatively large sum each, rather then nickle and dime orders from hobbyists.

I've used Altronics and Jaycar in my post, but really, it applies to almost any situation and company. Restricting or surcharging common payment forms has got to equal choosing to restrict your customer base. What business, who runs profitably, would want such an outcome?

Except where every plausible alternative has the same approach and you have to decide how welded to the corporate Amex you are.
 
Small business owners in particular, have to be a bit astute. Simplistically, they will simply note that almost no-one uses Amex with them, or rather, no-one wants to pay the surcharge so they use a different form of payment. On its surface this would appear to work in the businesses favour. You get a cheaper transaction and made a percent or so more margin.

But really, whats going on is that Jaycar simply won't know that the 30-40K a year that we put through Altronics is business they will never see because of the Amex problem. If a business is actually losing money on retail sales by accepting Amex, well, fair enough, don't accept it or surcharge if you must, but I'd hesitate to say that there are more deep seated problems with a business model that can't withstand a 2% hit in order to gain more business.

Now, of course, 40K a year won't keep Altronics doors open, but we can't possibly be the only business in Australia who uses a corporate amex purchasing card. Multiply things out and the income that Jaycar is now signalling that they no longer want is probably a sizeable sum. Not only that, but business (in particular) who use Amex for purchasing are likely exactly the customers you'd actually want. Relatively few purchase orders for a relatively large sum each, rather then nickle and dime orders from hobbyists.

I've used Altronics and Jaycar in my post, but really, it applies to almost any situation and company. Restricting or surcharging common payment forms has got to equal choosing to restrict your customer base. What business, who runs profitably, would want such an outcome?

My business accepts Amex with no surcharge and I have noticed that we had one new client who said to me I would rather come in here and use Amex than go to the guy down the road who will not take Amex. Our prices are similar. I have sold him app 2K in the past few weeks.
 
Of course they would - American centric & similar philosophies of business. I'm sure there would be protests on the streets without this convenience :mrgreen:

haha true, but I never knew about it until I tried it today. I'm new to AMEX
 
Of course they would - American centric & similar philosophies of business. I'm sure there would be protests on the streets without this convenience :mrgreen:

Hasn't always been the case though... a lot of them still don't seem to take it, also.
 
Was in a largish building supply business yesterday

4% for Amex
No surcharge for VI/MC

This only recently came into effect in October.

Amex must have really screwed over some retailers with the points change/merchant fee on the 1st October..

Of course I paid on Visa
 
Was in a largish building supply business yesterday

4% for Amex
No surcharge for VI/MC

This only recently came into effect in October.

Amex must have really screwed over some retailers with the points change/merchant fee on the 1st October..

Of course I paid on Visa

Building Supplies. A large locally based and privately owned builders hardware business now accepts Amex without surcharge...and they deliver for free too. I say privately owned because they are thriving in the face of competition from Bunnings etc. The business is Hardware and General (H&G) which now has around 4 outlets across Sydney. Did I mention they don't charge for Amex??? :)
My next house is going to be built using my Amex card.......I am almost salivating at the thought of all those points.
 
Cityrail in Sydney accepts Amex (previously only at the airport)
I know that you can sign at the counter, but not sure if you must use a PIN at the vending machine
 
Cityrail in Sydney accepts Amex (previously only at the airport)
I know that you can sign at the counter, but not sure if you must use a PIN at the vending machine

That's certainly new! Last time I tried to buy tickets at the vending machines in Circular Quay, Visa & MC were the only options... I'll have to check this out next time I'm down! :D


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Building Supplies. A large locally based and privately owned builders hardware business now accepts Amex without surcharge...and they deliver for free too. I say privately owned because they are thriving in the face of competition from Bunnings etc. The business is Hardware and General (H&G) which now has around 4 outlets across Sydney. Did I mention they don't charge for Amex??? :)
My next house is going to be built using my Amex card.......I am almost salivating at the thought of all those points.
If you have the right Amex card, you can earn 3 MR points/$ spent at certain hardware stores - without any surcharge ;)
 
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