Ansett / Eastwest reborn?

[clifford]

How do I know? I was a senior executive at the Australian CAA.

The CAA hasn't existed with that name since July 1995 when it was divided into CASA and Airservices Australia.

Rather a long time before Ansett's problems.

Back to other matters, the copyright holder of the photograph on ansettairways.com was unaware of its use, and has sent a "please explain" message.

Yes, fair enough Alan, but I do personally know the players involved. After all, the new chief executive of CASA commissioned a study (whitewash) to refute my claims. If you want to read about it, have a look at the back issues of the CASA's "Flight Safety" magazine.

It may sound simple, but that's more or less how it was. What I didn't mention was another factor, that disgruntled AN engineers (who were being shafted by Air NZ at the time) made claims to CASA that AN's aircraft were unsafe. They hoped it would preserve their jobs...

This was manna from heaven to the conservatives. Who promptly shut the whole thing down.

Now what do you have? Vermin...

Don't believe in conspiracy theories (if you work for the "government")?

 

[Yada Yada]

Was this when they had "Operated by AWOPS" on the boarding pass, or was that something else?

Steve,

Yes, I'd forgotten that but I think it was indeed AWOPS.

 

[oz_mark]

Had a look at an aircraft where are the now site, particularly http://dbromage.omni.com.au/aviation/ex-vh/767.html. Interested in the some of the notes:

Dry leased by AWOPS from AWAS, wet leased by Qantas from AWOPS.

 

[oz_mark]

I remember it as "operated by AWAS". It was a white tail, and while everyone looked Qantas, the safety demonstration was not a Qantas one.

Google finds matches for both AWOPS and AWAS. Does anyone know what they mean?

Steve

Into the archives:

From The Australian:


AWAS

09/06/2004 - Ansett tag gone, too

Another link with defunct airline Ansett faded into history this week with a decision by aircraft leasing company Ansett Worldwide to rename itself AWAS.

AWAS, formerly the acronym for Ansett Worldwide Aviation Services and used to describe the company from 1985 to 2001, was adopted because company officials believed the Ansett moniker now carried too much baggage.

Chief executive Charles Graham said AWAS was familiar to the aviation industry and associated with a reputation for technical expertise, industry knowledge and integrity.

"The contrast between AWAS, the successful global lessor, and Ansett, the bankrupt and departed Australian airline, could not be more stark," AWAS chief executive Charles Graham said.

"And in removing the Ansett name link we are finally eliminating confusion in the market regarding our status."

Started in 1985 by Ansett as a Sydney-based aircraft leasing and trading company, AWAS is now owned by US-based Morgan Stanley and last year established its global headquarters in Seattle.

Sydney remains its base for finance, business and legal services as well as commercial analysis and marketing functions. It also has offices in New York, Miami, London and Singapore.

The company owns a fleet of 178 aircraft – ranging from Fokker 70s to Airbus A320s and Boeing 747s and 777s – and has customers in 44 countries

AWOPS appears to have stood for Ansett Wetleasing Operations, and appears to have been bought by Qantas around 2002.

 

[Yada Yada]

Thanks oz_mark. Interesting info.

I still miss Ansett.

 

[MetroAir]

Thanks oz_mark. Interesting info.

I still miss Ansett.

Don't we all!

 

[JohnK]

Thanks oz_mark. Interesting info.

I still miss Ansett.

Don't we all!

Only if you have ever travelled with them.

Although wouldn't mind a bit of decent competition in the domestic market where QF is in total control today.

 

[straitman]

Thanks oz_mark. Interesting info.

I still miss Ansett.

Here Here :!:

 

[Alan in CBR]

I've just sent a message to the copyright holder, in case he wasn't previously aware of it. It is, after all, unattributed.

Update:

The person in charge of ansettairways.com has changed the caption (although still has the model number slightly wrong - it's an F27-600, not an "F27 Series 50") and has included the photographer's name.

The photographer is satisfied with this result.

There was no apology for using the image without permission in the first place (I won't open a can of worms by calling it stealing). Why do people have such disregard for copyright/IP? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.)

 

[Kiwi Flyer]

Why do people have such disregard for copyright/IP? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.)

Since its a rhetorical question I wont bother answering it

 

[oz_mark]

I've just sent a message to the copyright holder, in case he wasn't previously aware of it. It is, after all, unattributed.

Update:

The person in charge of ansettairways.com has changed the caption (although still has the model number slightly wrong - it's an F27-600, not an "F27 Series 50") and has included the photographer's name.

The photographer is satisfied with this result.

There was no apology for using the image without permission in the first place (I won't open a can of worms by calling it stealing). Why do people have such disregard for copyright/IP? (That's a rhetorical question, by the way.)

As long as the photographer is happy with the outcome.

 

[Alan in CBR]

As long as the photographer is happy with the outcome.

Indeed. He seems like a fairly cool guy, judging by my limited exchange with him. He's an ex-Ansett employee.

 

[straitman]

As long as the photographer is happy with the outcome.

Indeed. He seems like a fairly cool guy, judging by my limited exchange with him. He's an ex-Ansett employee.

Bound to be a good guy then :!: