Any Benefit? [change to QF code for extra SC's]

[garybatz]

I'm booked on QF10 going LHR-PER-MEL in September 2018, in J. I'll be flying into LHR from HAM the night before on BA and am wondering if there is any benefit in ringing Qantas to see if I can book the BA flight on the same ticket and with a QF code. Am trying to maximise my SC earn.

Similarly I'm flying into LHR with QF a few weeks earlier then transiting onto BA to fly to BCN.

Many thanks.

 

[serfty]

Do you already have e siting bookings? I suspect that while you can lilkely do this, change fees may come unto play.

 

[Sprucegoose]

I'm booked on QF10 going LHR-PER-MEL in September 2018, in J. I'll be flying into LHR from HAM the night before on BA and am wondering if there is any benefit in ringing Qantas to see if I can book the BA flight on the same ticket and with a QF code. Am trying to maximise my SC earn.

Similarly I'm flying into LHR with QF a few weeks earlier then transiting onto BA to fly to BCN.

Many thanks.

With a QF code meaning your QFF number as opposed to linking your bookings in case of delay and disruption ?

Let us know how BA perform. I hear they are going downhill quite rapidly as they move the old hands out in favour of ‘contractors’

 

[garybatz]

With a QF code meaning your QFF number as opposed to linking your bookings in case of delay and disruption ?

Let us know how BA perform. I hear they are going downhill quite rapidly as they move the old hands out in favour of ‘contractors’

I was meaning would I earn more SCs if the flight code is QF rather than BA, but yes would be good to be linked as well just in case of a delay. Cheers

 

[JRR]

I do not think Qantas codeshare on any HAM-LHR flights (as part of the Emirate deal they want you to fly via DXB) ... in which case a moot point. Don't let them hit you for a change fee unless you are absolutely certain the QF flight number exists!

 

[serfty]

I presumed a QF*BA code share.

Looking around there appear to be none for the HAM-LHR route, although ExpertFlyer did return QF*EK code shares via DXB.

 

[Himeno]

There are still some QF codeshares on BA Euro flights, but no where near how many there used to be. HAM-LHR doesn't have any QF codes (some BA flights have AA and JL codes), same for LHR-BCN. Just BA and IB codeshares on each others flights with some AA and JL codes.

Where QF codes exist, it is better to get the QF code if earning to QFF.

 

[RooFlyer]

am wondering if there is any benefit in ringing Qantas to see if I can book the BA flight on the same ticket and with a QF code. Am trying to maximise my SC earn.

With a QF code, you will pay Qantas' traditionally high 'carrier charges'. I'm not sure how they compare to BAs, but you might end up paying more $ cash than you otherwise might have, and if so, those extra SCs will come at a cost.

 

[astrosly]

In my experience for BA flights not departing Australia, the SCs are the same but the points are different in that you earn less than the QF codeshare.

 

[JRR]

Unfortunately for some purposes (e.g loyalty bonuses) it is not just the number of scs but the flavour ... a "ba" sc and a "qf" sc are not always equal.

 

[Himeno]

In my experience for BA flights not departing Australia, the SCs are the same but the points are different in that you earn less than the QF codeshare.

Transatlantic and European flights BA flights have lower point earn for the same booking class then a QF flight would. Depending on fare class, the BA code SC earn can be slightly less then the QF code earn.
SC earn on BA codes don't count to P1 status, loyalty bonus or the min 4 flights needed to maintain/earn status.
BA coded flights to Middle East, Asia and SWP have far worse point/SC earn then QF coded flights do. (QF doesn't want people to go LHR-KUL on BA/MH, they want you use QF codes. ie, [from late march] LHR-SIN-KUL with QF/3K)

 

[astrosly]

Transatlantic and European flights BA flights have lower point earn for the same booking class then a QF flight would. Depending on fare class, the BA code SC earn can be slightly less then the QF code earn.
SC earn on BA codes don't count to P1 status, loyalty bonus or the min 4 flights needed to maintain/earn status.
BA coded flights to Middle East, Asia and SWP have far worse point/SC earn then QF coded flights do. (QF doesn't want people to go LHR-KUL on BA/MH, they want you use QF codes. ie, [from late march] LHR-SIN-KUL with QF/3K)

I'll clarify my statment: In my experience for BA flights <del>not departing Australia</del> departing LHR for Europe destinations etc.

 

[garybatz]

Thanks Everyone for all the helpful information, much appreciated

 

[Sprucegoose]

I was meaning would I earn more SCs if the flight code is QF rather than BA, but yes would be good to be linked as well just in case of a delay. Cheers

I have usually earned slightly higher Points on QF code share flights with AA. Status Credits I use the SC calculator on the QF website to work those out as they do vary. Certainly out of AUS on OW non QF carriers you don’t generally earn the same as if it was a QF flight.

 

[tyrolean]

LHR-HAM has no QF code.
Berlin is the last QF code on BA to Germany. So LHR-TXL would work. The SCs are the same but you get more points, a ~ and the SC count for the loyalty bonus.

 

[toasty]

With a QF code, you will pay Qantas' traditionally high 'carrier charges'. I'm not sure how they compare to BAs, but you might end up paying more $ cash than you otherwise might have, and if so, those extra SCs will come at a cost.

If you're booking a revenue ticket originating from Australia, there's no carrier surcharges on any QF segments (aka YQ/fuel surcharges/fuel fines). This has been the case for a few years now.

The QF codeshare on the BA flight doesn't exist, but if it did, it would have been cheaper to book the codeshare because BA hits you with fuel fines whereas QF doesn't.

 

[RooFlyer]

If you're booking a revenue ticket originating from Australia, there's no carrier surcharges on any QF segments (aka YQ/fuel surcharges/fuel fines). This has been the case for a few years now.

Oops, yes, I stand corrected, at least as far as 'surcharges' are concerned. As Qantas said at the time, the charges will simply be incorporated into the price of the ticket.

 

[Himeno]

The QF codeshare on the BA flight doesn't exist, but if it did, it would have been cheaper to book the codeshare because BA hits you with fuel fines whereas QF doesn't.

That would depend on who issued the ticket. Some airlines will charge surcharges for their own flights, others will charge for all flights as if they were their own. Others will collect the other airlines fees, others don't. Some will use the operating carriers fee list, others use the marketing carriers.