Are you Going to use the COVIDsafe App?

[serfty]

I did research this a fair bit and I decided I was happy to:

Privacy Policy

The COVIDSafe app speeds up contacting people exposed to coronavirus (COVID-19). This helps us support and protect you, your friends and family. Please read the content on this page before downloading.

www.health.gov.au

 

[Anna]

NSW is unable to use Covidsafe app’s data for contact tracing

Exclusive: No Australian state has reported using data for contact tracing coronavirus cases since it was released a month ago

www.theguardian.com

Quote - The federal government sold the app to the public as the key to easing restrictions across the country, however last week when the Senate debated the legislation for the app, foreign minister Marise Payne admitted the number of downloads of the app was not a consideration for national cabinet in the easing of restrictions.

 

[luxury-lizard]

Heard on the news this morning that NSW are not able to use the downloaded data from the app for contact tracing due to technical issues (at present). This was in an interview with Ms Berejiklain who did not deny this and said their manual contract tracing was sufficient at this time. Maybe this is "common" knowledge but it was the first I had heard it. (Not sure about other states).

Oops - sorry - did not click on link in previous post - apologies.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Victoria have just used it for the first time

Victorian officials access coronavirus patient's COVIDSafe app data for first time

Victorian health officials get their first chance to use COVIDSafe app data to help trace close contacts of a coronavirus patient.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Pushka]

NSW is unable to use Covidsafe app’s data for contact tracing

Exclusive: No Australian state has reported using data for contact tracing coronavirus cases since it was released a month ago

www.theguardian.com

Quote - The federal government sold the app to the public as the key to easing restrictions across the country, however last week when the Senate debated the legislation for the app, foreign minister Marise Payne admitted the number of downloads of the app was not a consideration for national cabinet in the easing of restrictions.

Sure but we all knew that was a furphy.

 

[Spongbob]

It was "oven ready" - i.e. not even half baked.

 

[Anna]

How did the Covidsafe app go from being vital to almost irrelevant?

The PM told Australians in April the contact tracing app was key to getting back to normal but just one person has been identified using its data

www.theguardian.com

 

[serfty]

...

The article title is a Furphy. As the 'lockdowns' are eased, over time the app should become far more useful.

Also, the 'technical' issue portion with which more than 60% of the article is applied indicate the author is trying to justify the title rather than being objective.

 

[tomlee1986]

the question is why only still 6 million is downloading the app according to fairfax news

 

[Flying mermaid]

the question is why only still 6 million is downloading the app according to fairfax news

Most people just can’t be bothered, then add paranoia and selfishness. 6 million seems a pretty good number to me.

 

[Pushka]

How did the Covidsafe app go from being vital to almost irrelevant?

The PM told Australians in April the contact tracing app was key to getting back to normal but just one person has been identified using its data

www.theguardian.com

As serfty mentioned, the app is to be used to track any outbreaks once restrictions are released. In SA in particular once borders are changed, an outbreak in Victoria would be helpful for SA returnees where it might not get reported in SA. . Early days yet. A shame the media jumps on the headings and not the substance. Slack journalism.

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the question is why only still 6 million is downloading the app according to fairfax news

Because currently in SA we have had just one (historical and not infectious) positive in over 31 days. No active cases in about 10 days. Until we get some freedom there's not much point yet.

 

[Spongbob]

Most people just can’t be bothered, then add paranoia and selfishness. 6 million seems a pretty good number to me.

Or an alternative view: the designers of the App (and various policy makers) could not be bothered to develop an app that was actually functional.

 

[serfty]

Or ... could not be bothered to develop an app that was actually functional

That is a nul comment in relation to this thread as this app is indeed functional.

 

[TheRealTMA]

That is a nul comment in relation to this thread as this app is indeed functional.

Well, no it’s not. Sorry. Even the government is now quietly backtracking and refusing to discuss a lot of issues with it.

It’s very unfortunate but the app sucks. Such a missed opportunity.

How did the Covidsafe app go from being vital to almost irrelevant?

The PM told Australians in April the contact tracing app was key to getting back to normal but just one person has been identified using its data

www.theguardian.com

on iPhones it’s basically useless. And the developers knew this wouldn’t work because the Bluetooth stack is in the privileged part of the kernel and not available fully unless an app is in the foreground, on an unlocked phone, and running. The problem was known from other apps in other countries. The developers essentially sold the Government a pup and there was no one competent left to test properly or to work this out.

 

[serfty]

Well, no it’s not. Sorry. Even the government is now quietly backtracking and refusing to discuss a lot of issues with it.

It’s very unfortunate but the app sucks. Such a missed opportunity.

How did the Covidsafe app go from being vital to almost irrelevant?

The PM told Australians in April the contact tracing app was key to getting back to normal but just one person has been identified using its data

www.theguardian.com

.

See posts 786 and 787 0f this thread.

 

[serfty]

on iPhones it’s basically useless.

See post 771

 

[TheRealTMA]

See posts 786 and 787 0f this thread.

See post 793

The security of the Bluetooth stack is vital to stop hackers attacking an iPhone.

 

[serfty]

See post 793

I disagree with post 793 ... the issues reffered to in it already being refuted by 787 and 771.

 

[jakeseven7]

Well, no it’s not. Sorry. Even the government is now quietly backtracking and refusing to discuss a lot of issues with it.

It’s very unfortunate but the app sucks. Such a missed opportunity.

How did the Covidsafe app go from being vital to almost irrelevant?

The PM told Australians in April the contact tracing app was key to getting back to normal but just one person has been identified using its data

www.theguardian.com

on iPhones it’s basically useless. And the developers knew this wouldn’t work because the Bluetooth stack is in the privileged part of the kernel and not available fully unless an app is in the foreground, on an unlocked phone, and running. The problem was known from other apps in other countries. The developers essentially sold the Government a pup and there was no one competent left to test properly or to work this out.

Fake news alert

 

[nutwood]

I posted similar in another thread but I still feel that there is a business opportunity being missed here.
Ignore phones and promote a dedicated social interaction device. Compared with the tasks a phone tackles, social interaction is really basic. Supply a simple device, free of charge, tax payer funded. Leave at home if you wish, but otherwise, it'll provide a clean and consistent record of social interactions.
The problem with the app is that it engages with people's phones and those phones are too close to personal life for any sane person to let the Government within cooee.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I posted similar in another thread but I still feel that there is a business opportunity being missed here.
Ignore phones and promote a dedicated social interaction device. Compared with the tasks a phone tackles, social interaction is really basic. Supply a simple device, free of charge, tax payer funded. Leave at home if you wish, but otherwise, it'll provide a clean and consistent record of social interactions.
The problem with the app is that it engages with people's phones and those phones are too close to personal life for any sane person to let the Government within cooee.

Like this. A site for sore eyes: Florence's Duomo reopens with high tech social distancing alarms

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Fake news alert

How is it fake news to compromise the security of your phone And your personal data?