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Angle of attack changes are always small, unless you happen to be very slow.

It most likely perception on my part but when I was in SYD waiting for my flight home recently, I was watching aircraft take off from the runway which separates T2 domestic from the international terminal.

One of the aircraft was SIA A380. It seemed to level out shortly after wheels up, and from where I was looking it appeared to have a high nose up attitude with little gain in altitude.

In any case, it looked impressive as its gear was going up as it passed by us. I only wish I had my camera handy.
 
...Angle of attack changes are always small.... When the autopilots are engaged they normally look after pitch trim. In the Boeing the pilots can apply aileron trim, but it's rarely needed. Rudder is needed in both types in the engine out cases. The AB doesn't have aileron trim (which is a weakness). It looks after pitch trim itself as long as it is in normal or alternate law. In direct law you need to trim yourself..

Wow

It's English alright but completely impenetrable to a layman like me.

Now, where is seat 3K again?

I feel better now with JB & friends at the control while I change into my PJ while he is wrestling with the angle of attack.

Likewise, the bubbles would taste better under direct law, I believe.
 
Wow

It's English alright but completely impenetrable to a layman like me.

Now, where is seat 3K again?

I feel better now with JB & friends at the control while I change into my PJ while he is wrestling with the angle of attack.

Likewise, the bubbles would taste better under direct law, I believe.

To many bubbles and you end up in abnormal attitude law.
 
It most likely perception on my part but when I was in SYD waiting for my flight home recently, I was watching aircraft take off from the runway which separates T2 domestic from the international terminal.

One of the aircraft was SIA A380. It seemed to level out shortly after wheels up, and from where I was looking it appeared to have a high nose up attitude with little gain in altitude.

In any case, it looked impressive as its gear was going up as it passed by us. I only wish I had my camera handy.

it's a bit deceptive watching from the ground. Especially so at an airport with lots of very light domestic departures. They are very steep compared to the long haul flights.

At take off, the 380 is rotated to 12 degrees nose up. When the gear is selected up, that is reduced to 10 degrees ( to counter the increased drag from the open doors ). Back to 12 once retraction is complete until we reach the clean up altitude, at which point the thrust is selected to climb (and that may result in a thrust increase or decrease). Attitude then is about 5-6 degrees until completion of slat retraction.
 
it's a bit deceptive watching from the ground.

Yes, it is.

If I didn't know better I'd have said that that SIA 380 was having problems maintaining altitude. Obviously it wasn't, just how it looked.

Just like watching any heavy take off, or indeed, on approach, they look like they're floating, yet, they're doing way in excess of 300 km/h in car terms. And that (well, at least on a bike) is damned fast!
 
Hi JB,
Do you have your roster yet for the next month or so? Are you going to be flying on the new route to LHR through Dubai?
 
Hi JB,
Do you have your roster yet for the next month or so? Are you going to be flying on the new route to LHR through Dubai?

I'm actually still on leave for most of the roster period. I had great plans for a trip to WA, but it was all pushed aside by some family illness. Stuff happens....

Anyway, my roster for the period is actually overwritten by the training required from being away, so I lose an LA trip, and 'gain' an HK. So, I'm doing the 128 ex HK on 28/04.

On the 5/5 I get my first Dubai.

QF01 5/5 SYD/DXB
QF01 8/5 DXB/LHR
QF10 10/5 LHR/DXB
QF10 12/5 DXB/MEL
 
I'm actually still on leave for most of the roster period. I had great plans for a trip to WA, but it was all pushed aside by some family illness. Stuff happens....

*snip*

Shame - apart from a bit of a chill last week, we are into some cracking weather right now. Most unseasonal for Easter...
 
Jb I jog at a footy oval in the west of Melbourne, planes regularly fly over this oval. I see all types of aircraft flying over whether it be morning, afternoon or evening. My question due the A380's come in at a lower height that over planes or is it an optical illusion?
 
I'm actually still on leave for most of the roster period. I had great plans for a trip to WA, but it was all pushed aside by some family illness. Stuff happens....
Condolences...
QF01 5/5 SYD/DXB
QF01 8/5 DXB/LHR
Did you read about Qantas and "Aussies more at risk of being locked up" news items?

When I saw that I nearly died. We fly out on Sat 4th via DXB to LHR. Hopefully they don't check our luggage as we're in transit. I have some prescription medicines which may or may not be illegal in UAE.

Certainly, you guys would have to be on your toes, I would imagine...
 
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Jb I jog at a footy oval in the west of Melbourne, planes regularly fly over this oval. I see all types of aircraft flying over whether it be morning, afternoon or evening. My question due the A380's come in at a lower height that over planes or is it an optical illusion?

The A380s certainly don't need to be any lower than other types, so I'd expect it's mostly an illusion. They are pretty big.

I live out on the eastern side, and the flight path used on the Tulla arrival via Essendon goes past my house. I do see quite a lot of height variation, but the lowest aircraft are generally small stuff (737/320). They also tend to be the noisiest. They're flying lower, but going faster. The QF 767s are consistently the quietest, generally just drifting past at idle and at about 5,000 feet. That particular arrival can be perceived as being a bit difficult, so the other low flyers tend to be those who don't do it often...foreign heavies, though I've never seen a 380 doing it, other than the QF ones.
 
Condolences...

Did you read about Qantas and "Aussies more at risk of being locked up" news items?

When I saw that I nearly died. We fly out on Sat 4th via DXB to LHR. Hopefully they don't check our luggage as we're in transit. I have some prescription medicines which may or may not be illegal in UAE.

Certainly, you guys would have to be on your toes, I would imagine...

Another slow day at the newspapers. We've received some info from the company, and quite honestly, nobody is going to end up in any trouble if they use some common sense.
 
Another slow day at the newspapers. We've received some info from the company, and quite honestly, nobody is going to end up in any trouble if they use some common sense.

Hopefully. Last thing you guys need is a scare campaign to put people off flying QF if we start hearing about hordes of Aussie tourists who end up spending their holidays on an enforced pork free diet...

My concern is the thing about prescription meds. I'm still looking into that.
 
Hopefully. Last thing you guys need is a scare campaign to put people off flying QF if we start hearing about hordes of Aussie tourists who end up spending their holidays on an enforced pork free diet...

My concern is the thing about prescription meds. I'm still looking into that.

You always have to wonder when the papers come up with articles like that. And, from what I've seen, their rules are no worse than Singapore or Thailand, and nobody short of drug mules ends up in trouble there.
 
Hopefully. Last thing you guys need is a scare campaign to put people off flying QF if we start hearing about hordes of Aussie tourists who end up spending their holidays on an enforced pork free diet...

My concern is the thing about prescription meds. I'm still looking into that.


UAE Travel: Tourist: Drug guidelines - UAEinteract

Quite a significant list that requires permission otherwise a copy of the doctors script is all that is needed.

http://uae-embassy.ae/Embassies/au/Content/757
 
UAE Travel: Tourist: Drug guidelines - UAEinteract

Quite a significant list that requires permission otherwise a copy of the doctors script is all that is needed.

http://uae-embassy.ae/Embassies/au/Content/757

I just downloaded and read the list of restricted drugs. Thankfully none of mine are on there, although codeine does get prominent mention in a few drugs. My wife takes Panadene Extra to manage migraine pain (they used to have Migrol, then Cafergot til they stopped making it, so PE is all she can use).

We'll be transitting through DXB, so hopefully it won't be an issue. Regardless, we'll be taking the original scripts along with doctors' reports.
 

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