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....I have a question with regards to your arrival at the gate . I noticed that there is no person directing you in ( unsure of the real name but they use the things like ping pong bats) how ever you see a electronic display on the wall at the end. How is this controlled?

Sorry, I had missed this question.

There's quite a range of parking systems in use around the world. Some are fancy electronic items, whilst others just rely on some painted lines and parallax (which work every bit as well as the electronic ones). These days we tend to get the line up simply by looking at the nose gear camera display, to make sure the painted line is right between the wheels...and that actually shows that some of the systems aren't as well aligned as you might expect. The system you can see (vaguely) in the two parking videos gives me a direction to turn, as well as a distance count down. In the one of Melbourne, you can see a groundie down on the left hand side. He's at the control for the parking system, and turns it off once we are parked. If it goes off at any time, we stop immediately.

Marshalling (i.e. the man with the flags) happens if we are being parked out in the open, or if the normal system is unserviceable. Last time I was marshalled was when I delivered a 380 to Frankfurt a few months ago. The only time the F/O is permitted to park the aircraft is when it has been marshalled. All of the other systems are only aligned for use from the left hand seat.
 
The GoPro suction mount is totally stable if mounted onto a smooth non porous back (i.e. glass). I've had it up to 120 kph mounted externally on a vehicle. But, most of the AB coughpit panels have textured finish that simply isn't airtight. And I'd better pass on the screw mounts (and double sided tape too)...it's not my jet.
Perhaps the 3M Command strips may be useful in this regard? I haven't used them so I'm not 100% sure, but they came to mind as I read this post.

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I'm at the same University and Flight School as the Jetstar Cadets are training, thought some of you might be interested to know Jetstar are only putting through 6 this year.

I've seen their course, scary how little they are studying.
 
I'm at the same University and Flight School as the Jetstar Cadets are training, thought some of you might be interested to know Jetstar are only putting through 6 this year.

I've seen their course, scary how little they are studying.

What do you need to know - anyone can operate a computer. Push a few buttons, turn a few knobs, sit back and watch the world go by.

Of course this is very tongue in cheek, how many accidents are attributed to pilots not knowing or fully understanding systems and how many could be averted if the pilots applied fundamental principles when a situation arose. All well and good having check lists to follow but at some point experience and skill do play an important role. The skill of flying should not be lost just because some bean counter thinks he knows better. Way too many outfits with incompetents flying in the right hand seat and sadly that low skill set becomes the norm and moves to the left hand seat.
 
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I'm at the same University and Flight School as the Jetstar Cadets are training, thought some of you might be interested to know Jetstar are only putting through 6 this year.

I've seen their course, scary how little they are studying.
Very scary prospect, that. Especially for someone who does not really mind flying JQ....
 
Because many know that we often talk without taking our hands off the controls, so there has to be a transmit button on the stick/column (which there is). But, when you look at the column nothing is marked PTT (push to talk). The two obvious buttons are the trim (767/747) which nobody seems to go for, and a nice large, and innocuous looking button, which everyone likes. Sadly it's the AP disconnect.

The transmit switches are hidden from view.


At the risk of sounding cheeky (and totally without a clue of the layout of the coughpit-- which I don't at all...) would that nice large, innocuous looking button be like that big red button on the joystick, which may or may not be the eject button (belonging to an aircraft depicted in the movies... which I can't remember the type)?

sigh... I am not making a lot of sense am I?
 
What is the story regarding portable electronic devices and interference with the aircraft controls? I always turn my phone off before I board but can they (and other wi-fi devices) cause serious interference?
 
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I'm at the same University and Flight School as the Jetstar Cadets are training, thought some of you might be interested to know Jetstar are only putting through 6 this year.

I've seen their course, scary how little they are studying.

They probably do lots of hours at home on FS though :)


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What do you need to know - anyone can operate a computer. Push a few buttons, turn a few knobs, sit back and watch the world go by.

Of course this is very tongue in cheek, how many accidents are attributed to pilots not knowing or fully understanding systems and how many could be averted if the pilots applied fundamental principles

An airline from western Europe where frogs are a delicacy comes to mind...
 
@ jb747

jb some time ago I asked were you aware of any preference afforded to Chinese carriers re take-off / landing sequence PEK.

I just spent 4 nights at Renaissance Beijing Capital Hotel where UA and CO crews are stabled each night. I had brekky on table next to 2 UA pilots one morning and got talking to them where they indicated such is common occurrence at PEK - no secret at all apparently.
 
Firstly there are really no stupid questions. And you can always guarantee that anything you ask was also on a lot of other minds too.

The aircraft do have a parking brake. It's small lift up handle in the Boeing, and and a twist handle in the Airbus (both on the centre pedestal). Basically it traps some pressure within the main braking system....

Thanks. Therefore are the wheels only chocked (hope that's the correct terminology) as a fail-safe should pressure be lost?

I was also watching some cough film/series and a crazy pilot used the aircraft engines on a commercial airliner to make the aircraft jump the chocks. Is this even possible?
 
Thanks. Therefore are the wheels only chocked (hope that's the correct terminology) as a fail-safe should pressure be lost?

Basically, but also because the aircraft are often parked with the brakes released. The reason for that is that they can be extremely hot after landing, and if released they cool faster than if held on.

I was also watching some cough film/series and a crazy pilot used the aircraft engines on a commercial airliner to make the aircraft jump the chocks. Is this even possible?

Most aircraft have a lot of power. I expect you could do it without much trouble at all.
 
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I was also watching some cough film/series and a crazy pilot used the aircraft engines on a commercial airliner to make the aircraft jump the chocks. Is this even possible?

Most aircraft have a lot of power. I expect you could do it without much trouble at all.
Indeed, it happened in Nov. 2007 to an A346: PICTURE: Etihad A340-600 jumps chocks, hits wall; 5 injured

The Aviation Herald: Airbus A346 at Toulouse on Nov 15th 2007, escaped during engine tests and went into a wall
 
Hey JB, just watched the latest edition of your videos.

In one of them, ex-SIN, one of the screens on your side is displaying the tail camera while the FO's has the attitude (turn and bank/artificial horizon?) display up. Was he doing the flying that day?

The vision was great, however, background noise made it difficult to hear what you guys are saying. Perhaps I could volunteer my services as a sound engineer and mike you lot up...

(I'd do it for free, too...)

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In one of them, ex-SIN, one of the screens on your side is displaying the tail camera while the FO's has the attitude (turn and bank/artificial horizon?) display up. Was he doing the flying that day?

There is no real rhyme or reason to who displays what, and when. If you want the camera, then select it. When finished with it, turn it off. You need the attitude display a couple of times during taxi (to see annunciations and Vspeeds). So, no, the camera doesn't really tell you who is doing the sector.

The vision was great, however, background noise made it difficult to hear what you guys are saying. Perhaps I could volunteer my services as a sound engineer and mike you lot up...

As someone else has said, the waterproof housing muffles the sound. But, on the other hand, I'm probably not going to put up videos containing clear audio. I might comment on some ancestry that I shouldn't. The next lot that I shoot will most likely be time lapse, and devoid of sound entirely.
 
This might sound odd and perhaps a very open and vague question, but given that computers can be fallible (:rolleyes: of course), how often do you come up against a false alarm, or, perhaps worse still, the opposite, i.e. a situation which needs attention where an alarm that should've been raised did not?


From hearing a couple of coughpit videos, there seems to be plenty of bells, whistles and generally noises, mostly taking the form of spoken words or bleating tones. It has been argued that an overuse of such devices (more like the bleating tones) can impact on the performance of operators in a true emergency (a bit like someone who knows a fire alarm is faulty and keeps going off when there is no fire, then that person becoming complacent when a real fire occurs). Certainly in some industries, like chemical production, control systems and alarms are designed so that they are not supposed to alarm all the time unless there is really a problem, otherwise you end up with a culture of indifference which can be fatal when a real problem occurs. Do you have a take on this? (Perhaps I'm severely overestimating the use of tones, voice and alarms in the coughpit... apologies if this is the case...)
 
This might sound odd and perhaps a very open and vague question, but given that computers can be fallible (:rolleyes: of course), how often do you come up against a false alarm, or, perhaps worse still, the opposite, i.e. a situation which needs attention where an alarm that should've been raised did not?

Reported problems that don't really exist are pretty common. Mostly, in the 380, they are caused by the fact that it's a new aircraft, and the engineers (who had obviously never been allowed outside), tuned the tolerances far too tightly. As operational experience is being gained, some are being adjusted to more realistic values.

On the Boeing, false alarms were quite rare, although I did once have a false fire warning in a 767, which resulted in shutting down a healthy engine. Obviously a better result than not shutting one down that was on fire though....


From hearing a couple of coughpit videos, there seems to be plenty of bells, whistles and generally noises, mostly taking the form of spoken words or bleating tones. It has been argued that an overuse of such devices (more like the bleating tones) can impact on the performance of operators in a true emergency (a bit like someone who knows a fire alarm is faulty and keeps going off when there is no fire, then that person becoming complacent when a real fire occurs). Certainly in some industries, like chemical production, control systems and alarms are designed so that they are not supposed to alarm all the time unless there is really a problem, otherwise you end up with a culture of indifference which can be fatal when a real problem occurs. Do you have a take on this? (Perhaps I'm severely overestimating the use of tones, voice and alarms in the coughpit... apologies if this is the case...)

My personal opinion is that there is FAR TOO MUCH talking in the Airbus. Sadly, they've designed it for idiots (or by idiots?), and require every annunciation change, selection, and backside scratch to be called, and then acknowledged by the other pilot. If I could be paid for the number of times the word 'checked' is said, I'd be a millionaire. And, as you've intimated, it's very easy to say the word, but not actually do it.

Sadly, aviation currently seems to be living in a pedantic stage, in which the belief is that if people get every little thing (i.e. the exact words) right then they will also do so with the big things. The reality is the whilst looking at the leaves, they totally fail to see the forest.....

Warnings from the aircraft in the videos.... There are a couple of momentary sounds associated with autopilot disconnect...because they are intentional, they last less than a second. A couple of trivia ECAMS, though most were expected. The 'triple click' sound comes up any time the autopilot/FD has done an automatic mode change, for instance if you are descending on a STAR (and the aircraft is being navigated both laterally and vertically by the FMC) and you select HDG (heading), the vertical mode will revert to Open Descent. This is a contrast to the Boeings, which will remain in their managed vertical mode irrespective of the lateral mode...unless you select the change.
 
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JB747, thank you very much for your contributions. It's a delight to read someone who knows what they are talking about and who can express it so clearly.
Your videos are very informative - the German PilotsEye team will have to watch out for themselves!
As a former glider pilot I am very interested in glide ratios. I understand that the modern jets have rather better glide ratios than the proverbial brick dunny to reduce fuel usage. Is ther much difference in glide ratio between the 747 and the A380?
 
Your videos are very informative - the German PilotsEye team will have to watch out for themselves!

I'll keep working on the videos, and see what can be done with them. I'm not overly interested in too much editing....from what I gather the aviation fans want the minute detail...and I guess a non fan wouldn't watch them anyway. The mailman has just delivered a package containing lots of bits for the camera, so that should improve both my mounting options, and also the battery life. I know that the GoPro is somewhat limited (i.e. noisy) at night, but I think the next thing I'll work on is trying to time lapse an entire sector. Melbourne to Singapore in 4 minutes.....

Now if I could just work out how to securely mount the D90.....

As a former glider pilot I am very interested in glide ratios. I understand that the modern jets have rather better glide ratios than the proverbial brick dunny to reduce fuel usage. Is ther much difference in glide ratio between the 747 and the A380?

Down low the 380 seems to go about 15% further than the jumbo, but at altitude (at a higher mach no.), its sink rate is far in excess of the 747, so overall there is virtually nothing in it. Managed 380 descents are a little flatter than the 747, but only because it plans on carrying a small amount of power for the entire descent.
 

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