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Finally got the chance to fly the MAX last night (8IC). Here are my thoughts in no particular order.

The FMCs on the MAX 10s will be replaced with touchscreens. View attachment 358007
Is having touch screens a good idea in an aircraft? It's bad enough trying to tap the nav or radio station screen in the car what with all the movement. But maybe it's smoother in the coughpit, perhaps?
 
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The rotor shafts for the N1 (The big fan you can see at the front of the engine) and the N2 are subject to thermal build up after the engine is shut down and will bow. To straighten it out again, CFM have introduced an extended motoring to straighten it out again before fuel is introduced.
The gas turbines that we used to operate had what we call turning (or barring) gear to keep the shafts straight (rotating them at around 1 rpm). I wonder how practical that'd be in an aircraft.

As an aside large steam turbines often require 24hrs on barring before start-up from cold. But we're looking at 100t rotors,
 
Is having touch screens a good idea in an aircraft? It's bad enough trying to tap the nav or radio station screen in the car what with all the movement. But maybe it's smoother in the coughpit, perhaps?
Honestly, I don’t know if it’ll be more difficult or not but I personally don’t like the idea of it. There are already fingerprints on the navigation displays, why guys feel the need to point things out with their finger on the screen I’ll never know.
 
The gas turbines that we used to operate had what we call turning (or barring) gear to keep the shafts straight (rotating them at around 1 rpm). I wonder how practical that'd be in an aircraft.

As an aside large steam turbines often require 24hrs on barring before start-up from cold. But we're looking at 100t rotors,
On a jet engine I’m not so sure it’ll work. It’ll be interesting to see if on a windy day when air will freely flow through the engine and spin the N1 fan if that will help cool the shaft and reduce motoring time.

On a turboprop you can stop the propeller from spinning with a brake while still rotating the turbine. This is good for air conditioning and power on the ground. Works in a similar way to an APU. But like with anything in aviation, expensive, both in weight and maintenance costs. So we just did turnarounds in the outback with the right hand prop spinning.

I suspect we’ll end up starting one engine on the bay before pushback to minimise delays on the push.
 
why guys feel the need to point things out with their finger on the screen I’ll never know.
Same thing at work. But they aren't touch screens. Which begs the question, if it's a touch screen how do you clean them without, say, deploying something that will, say, cause the dreaded "plunge", or worse?
 
Finally got the chance to fly the MAX last night (8IC). Here are my thoughts in no particular order.
- Being 3T heavier than an NG I noticed it took longer than normal to reach cruise altitude, and we were light with only 90 pax.
What engine thrust rating have they bought, and what sort of climb derates are you using?
- Very good on fuel. Although it took longer we spent 1.5T to reach cruise whereas the NG I flew the previous sector took 2.1T.
At the same derate? Full charge should use less.
- It is much quieter up the front. Almost could take my headset off in the cruise.
I've found that in all new aircraft. And then they get progressively noisier.
- The screens themselves are very big, however I felt everything was written in smaller font with the primary instruments compacted somewhat. The terrain and weather radar on my side as pilot monitoring was great when there was weather around (see photo from last night) however the Capt had to keep on looking over as he had the engine instruments and this compacted his navigation display.
Have I got this right? The flying pilot has the engine displays? That seems back the front.
- The spoilers finally work and aren’t just painted on!
Why, what did the other versions of spoilers do?
Things like the flap indicator are now digital so will not always be in the same spot and I caught myself searching for it a couple of times. It is now a fair way over on the Capt side for taxi and take off.
To be honest, that sounds like poor ergonomics.

And for anyone wondering, yes they fixed MCAS. The trim system worked a treat.
I'd be a tad surprised if you got into part of the flight regime that activated it.
 
Interesting qf498 did holding patterns soon after takeoff
It didn't. It was going the other way. But, generally, if you see holding immediately after take off that indicates a problem and will probably precede a return.
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The rotor shafts for the N1 (The big fan you can see at the front of the engine) and the N2 are subject to thermal build up after the engine is shut down and will bow. To straighten it out again, CFM have introduced an extended motoring to straighten it out again before fuel is introduced.

Even if we were to try and put fuel in ourselves the engine control computer will not introduce the fuel until the motoring is completed and all internal tests are complete. Only then will the start sequence continue.

So in answer to your question, the hotter the engine is, the more time it’ll take to straighten it out.
Autostart? What core temperature is it looking for, or is it time based?
 
Is having touch screens a good idea in an aircraft? It's bad enough trying to tap the nav or radio station screen in the car what with all the movement. But maybe it's smoother in the coughpit, perhaps?
I wouldn't have thought so. We had a touch screen on the ACARS in the 767. Very old technology, but it would get very dirty, and then start doing it's own thing. I liked the track pad and hand rest in the 380. The rest stabilised your hand, and it was useful even when using the FMC keyboard, and not the cursor. Mind you, Boeing and Airbus are opposites in every way. Boeing keypad is ABCD, versus Airbus QWERTY.
 
Hi JB . I think Qantas has flown 1 stop on the 747 and/or A380 to London via Singapore, Bangkok, Dubai , Mumbai and Hong Kong from Sydney and Melbourne. I can't remember if the A380 went via Darwin
The 380 did do something via Darwin during covid, but I think it was only a couple of flights. Neither efficiency nor commercial viability were considerations at the time.
My questions are
Via which city was the most efficient with fuel use for the whole journey?
In a perfect world, you'd like your two sectors to be as close as possible to the same length. On that basis alone, going via Dubai was, by far, the least efficient, whilst Singapore was the second worst. In the 747, loadings out of Singapore would approach the max, whilst up in Bangkok or HK, weight wasn't an issue, even with poor weather at either end of the flight. The 380 had a lot more weight tolerance, though out of Oz to Dubai, especially in Oz summer, could be limiting. And the further you get from max weights, the more efficient your aircraft.

Comparing the sector lengths there isn't a great deal between Mumbai, Bangkok, or HK routings. But, many other factors come into play with regard to the viability of a route. One place could be very expensive for fuel (Mumbai). Out of HK, you could be altitude restricted, especially over China. Dubai had the most atrocious holding, and I'm told that the pervasive dust did not do the engines or APUs any good.
With the different routes were any more challenging than the others and did you have a favourite?
Personally I liked flying the Melbourne/HK/London route. The timings were the least difficult to deal with (body clock). HK was a reasonable place to slip. Chinese ATC could be a tad different, but I never found them hard to deal with. Comms were generally very good. The various 'stans that you flew over were also pretty straight forward. The downside was that there were extensive sections with extremely high safety heights, and you had to ensure that you kept on top of exactly how you'd deal with a depressurisation. Some diversion options would have been interesting, too. I wasn't a huge fan of Bangkok or Mumbai, and hated Dubai, leaving Singapore an easy second place.
 
I think that’s only on the newer AB’s though. A320 and A330 are ABCD.
You're quite correct. I guess it comes back to the FMC maker, and the available installation width. Looking around, QWERTY is fitted in the aircraft with track ball and cursor (350/380), and they look to be identical installations.
 
What engine thrust rating have they bought, and what sort of climb derates are you using?
They are 26K engines but Boeing have written it as the MCT rating of 25K just to confuse us on the FMC and in the manuals. In actual fact they provide slightly more take off thrust than a 26K engine.

We use default CLB settings unless we require a higher setting. CLB-2 is just way too slow for a departure with no altitude restrictions. Given the storms around we used full CLB thrust on both sectors.

At the same derate? Full charge should use less.
Even if we were to use a derate CLB thrust it’ll slowly increase thrust as we cl8mb to reach full CLB thrust by FL150. That’s a 737 thing not specific to the MAX.

Have I got this right? The flying pilot has the engine displays? That seems back the front.
Yep. That’s right. It seems weird to me too and was quite annoying to keep switching the display especially when I was PF. I’m guessing as more of these aircraft come online they’ll revise some of the SOP. I’ll do some digging into what other airlines do.

Why, what did the other versions of spoilers do?
Just made noise and shake the aircraft.

I'd be a tad surprised if you got into part of the flight regime that activated it.
To be honest, it was for the naysayers.

Autostart? What core temperature is it looking for, or is it time based?
Pretty much. Start times have been extended to 3mins now compared to 2mins for the CFM to facilitate the extended motoring. It’s time based. Anywhere between 6-90secs motoring. When we started the engine the EGT was only 100° so I was surprised it used the full 90secs.
 
Pretty much. Start times have been extended to 3mins now compared to 2mins for the CFM to facilitate the extended motoring. It’s time based. Anywhere between 6-90secs motoring. When we started the engine the EGT was only 100° so I was surprised it used the full 90secs.
100ºC was the fuel on point for the engines I've flown. They'd motor until they hit that point, and then add fuel. I suspect the main danger of early fuel for them would have been an instantaneous light off, which could lead it to compressor stall.
 
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Does anyone know why VA1226 from BNE to CBR this evening flew west for almost an hour, before turning towards Canberra?

 
Does anyone know why VA1226 from BNE to CBR this evening flew west for almost an hour, before turning towards Canberra?

Brisbane Centre staff shortages from Air No Services. Is a JQ flight OOL-MEL that is tracking east of the coast down to Sydney then to Melbourne.

 
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Does anyone know why VA1226 from BNE to CBR this evening flew west for almost an hour, before turning towards Canberra?

Controlled airspace closures. Aircraft are still permitted to transit the area but it is no longer controlled. The designated area reverts to Traffic Information Broadcast by Aircraft (TIBA). Pilots must make mandatory reports, try not to change level inside the airspace (unless operationally required), and must maintain a listening watch.

Because of the increased risk of flying within this airspace, most airlines (if not all) will flight plan around this airspace.
 
Question for JB:
When the QF30 incident occured, how long did it take to descend to 10,000'? I ask as I follow a guy on YouTube. He's a 744 cargo driver and posted a tick tock video recently of influenzas spouting stuff about airline safety, including their "knowledge" of how cabin oxy masks work and other conspiricy nutjob theories.

 

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