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[simongr]

My interpretation of your comment was that you do not expect QF to get the 787 at all rather than them being flown on QF mainline with non-QF pilots.

 

[jb747]

If there was a swimming pool inside a aircraft and a person was swimming in it without touching the bottom would he/she not feel the majority of movement/jolting due to turbulence? I have had this thought in my head some time in the future passenger seats will exist on airliners that compensate for sudden movement/turbulence so the passenger does not feel any effects of turbulence or sudden movements. No idea where I come up with this stuff...

Another positive experience on QF17 today, the new 747's with the A380 seating are more comfortable for me and the crew did a great job.

Presumably the water would also push you upwards, but I expect it would be more gently. I can't see how a seat could have much in the way of movement, without also gaining both weigh, and the ability to jam wayward body parts.

Realistically, I can't see some form of suspended seat happening, or even being much use if it did. Plus, most of the uncomfortable movement is lateral rather than vertical.

 

[jb747]

My interpretation of your comment was that you do not expect QF to get the 787 at all rather than them being flown on QF mainline with non-QF pilots.

I guess we'll have to wait and see. I expect the outcome to be the worst possible for all concerned.

 

[markis10]

If the 787 is in QF colours, but no QF pilot flies it, where will the two up the front most likely be coming from? Eg some aviation company like "Sun State airlines" who fly the dashes on behalf of QF or would they most likely be private contractors, who are "QF pilots" in the same sense that a "Telstra Contractor" works for Telstra, but is not an employee?

Or is this getting to far into the rumor mill?

Sunstate is actually a QF company, having been acquired by TAA before the merger.

 

[harvyk]

If there was a swimming pool inside a aircraft and a person was swimming in it without touching the bottom would he/she not feel the majority of movement/jolting due to turbulence? I have had this thought in my head some time in the future passenger seats will exist on airliners that compensate for sudden movement/turbulence so the passenger does not feel any effects of turbulence or sudden movements. No idea where I come up with this stuff...

Another positive experience on QF17 today, the new 747's with the A380 seating are more comfortable for me and the crew did a great job.

Actually I think they would feel turbulence worse than had they simply been in a normal seat as water is far better at applying forces onto an object than air as it doesn't compress very well. That said as the water applies the force onto the person, it will also apply the same forces onto all other objects around them as well. So it will appear "less turbulent" according to their eyes, but their insides will feel it far worse than had they been in a normal seat.

To do what your thinking, they would need to find a way to suspend the seat by way of elastic and springs, whilst that would help keep the pax relatively nice and steady, but it would cause absolute havoc for the planes ability to stay in the air, and would most likely exacerbate any turbulence for anyone not in the springy chair.

(Just thinking back to experiments I did in year 7 and year 9 science and year 11 physics, so do correct me if I did get it wrong)

 

[Skyring]

A new video....Melbourne to Singapore in 4 minutes - YouTube

Just watched this again. Something puzzling me. In this and other videos I notice pilots reaching over the top of the "dashboard" to touch the windscreen glass or possibly grope for a pen rolling around. What's happening here?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

To do what your thinking, they would need to find a way to suspend the seat by way of elastic and springs, whilst that would help keep the pax relatively nice and steady, but it would cause absolute havoc for the planes ability to stay in the air, and would most likely exacerbate any turbulence for anyone not in the springy chair.

the technology to reduce movement already exists in buildings in earthquake zones. The building sits on a series of plates and balls which are able to slide independently from the ground. How this would transfer to an individual seat without adding weight would be the question. Weight = dollars. Not sure what the safety implications would be either in terms of providing a solid platform in the event of a crash.

 

[jb747]

Just watched this again. Something puzzling me. In this and other videos I notice pilots reaching over the top of the "dashboard" to touch the windscreen glass or possibly grope for a pen rolling around. What's happening here?

The glass is out of reach unless you really want to stretch forward. Generally my left arm on the coaming is just stretching it. When I reach out with the right, it's normally to change something on the mode control panel.

 

[yo yo ma]

A new time lapse video...from a different point of view this time.
coughpit view A380 LAX arrival time lapse.m4v - YouTube

Here's another landing into LAX

Pilot's eye view: Stunning nighttime video of plane landing over LA filmed from coughpit | Mail Online

 

[jb747]

Here's another landing into LAX

Pilot's eye view: Stunning nighttime video of plane landing over LA filmed from coughpit | Mail Online

Partially the same approach (join at Santa Monica) to the same runway.

Currently trying to work out what I'll try next. I'm a bit constrained, as I can't just stick the camera anywhere. I can give a view forward, with no instruments, but that seems a bit dull. I'll try a time lapse of the displays one day, as I can place a camera so that it's out of my field of view, but can see both the PFD and NAV display. And, I can't take shots that show the crew without running into privacy issues. I'm open to suggestions.

 

[gogo419]

Partially the same approach (join at Santa Monica) to the same runway.

Currently trying to work out what I'll try next. I'm a bit constrained, as I can't just stick the camera anywhere. I can give a view forward, with no instruments, but that seems a bit dull. I'll try a time lapse of the displays one day, as I can place a camera so that it's out of my field of view, but can see both the PFD and NAV display. And, I can't take shots that show the crew without running into privacy issues. I'm open to suggestions.

JB747 loving the videos!

A timelapse of some of the instruments would be great! I seemed to focus on them a fair bit in your last video so a close up would be cool! Even having the gopro lookout and down towards the ground when you first arrive on the plane to get some action from the ground staff..

I know this is off topic but thought i would post the link as many people are appreciating your videos, but here is a timelapse i put together last year (a lot of it on planes) Of course from a different angle however!

[video=youtube;06XYqjDYCi4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06XYqjDYCi4[/video]

Back on topic now. Thanks again JB747 your input in this forum is much appreciated!!

Cheers
gogo

 

[Nigelinoz]

Great video gogo419,
Can't wait for Part 2!.
Cheers
N'oz

 

[serfty]

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I know this is off topic but thought i would post the link as many people are appreciating your videos, but here is a timelapse i put together last year (a lot of it on planes) Of course from a different angle however!
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Interesting Video - first minute is from a flight landing at MEL; next 45-60 seconds are from the MEL First Lounge with a take-off from "34" thareafter. The rest is sort of non flying blather ...

 

[Mrmaxwell]

I can give a view forward, with no instruments, but that seems a bit dull.

I don't find this view dull at all - especially in HD - it looks amazing and certainly gives me a view that I never have. Hopefully SYD gets a debut soon

Here is a favourite of mine - approach in HD during a shower;

Approach during a short rainshower, EDDM, HD coughpit View - YouTube

 

[jb747]

There won't be any more videos for a while, as I've just started leave. I'll do Sydney when I get a chance, though I do try to swap any sectors I get to or from there for something from Melbourne.

And with regard to the video you referenced...you'll note that there is some discussion about the flight being low, and then somebody comes in and makes the comment about PAPIs being set up for wide body aircraft (777 or 747). Looking at the actual data for Munich, the crossing heights are only about 52' (height over threshold), whereas the wide body stuff is about 15 feet higher. As best I can see, he's low....

 

[mjt57]

That wet weather approach is interesting (although I found it difficult to hear the conversations). The lighting appears to be a huge flair or something. Is that an effect on the video or is that how it really visually appears?

And do any of Australia's airports have this sort of lighting?

 

[mjt57]

There won't be any more videos for a while, as I've just started leave.

Have a good break.

You heading bush?

 

[Simo]

There won't be any more videos for a while, as I've just started leave. I'll do Sydney when I get a chance, though I do try to swap any sectors I get to or from there for something from Melbourne.

And with regard to the video you referenced...you'll note that there is some discussion about the flight being low, and then somebody comes in and makes the comment about PAPIs being set up for wide body aircraft (777 or 747). Looking at the actual data for Munich, the crossing heights are only about 52' (height over threshold), whereas the wide body stuff is about 15 feet higher. As best I can see, he's low....

Have a good holiday looking forward to more videos when you get back

 

[darrend]

That wet weather approach is interesting (although I found it difficult to hear the conversations). The lighting appears to be a huge flair or something. Is that an effect on the video or is that how it really visually appears?

And do any of Australia's airports have this sort of lighting?

The approach lighting is not blurred like that in normal operations - an effect of the video and possible over exposure due to lower light conditions I'd say. The approach lighting intensity is something tower has control over and can be changed at their descretion and/or pilots request. Seems to me, more of a concern is the PAPI (4 lights on the left of the runway - 3/4 RED) indicates approach is well below glideslope.

The approach was not done by lights alone - it would have been off an ILS at that altitude. But blurred or not the requirement is to identify and maintain reference to the approach end of the runway once visual, the lights are effectual to that end even if they are too bright.

Yes Australia has a number of these systems (or similar). Installations tend to be at major airports, larger regional centres and/or locations with special requirements for extended operations.

 

[markis10]

Seems to me, more of a concern is the PAPI (4 lights on the left of the runway - 3/4 RED) indicates approach is well below glideslope. .

Three reds on a PAPI indicates slightly below glide path at 2.8 degrees, not well below, given three degrees is the nominal glide path of an ILS.