Australian Cricket Season 2018-2019

[JohnK]

With 70 runs and 2 wickets, I’m still backing the bowling team.

It’s a tough ask to ask the final three to bat way above their averages when those paid to bat couldn’t.

I don't disagree with you but still in with chance.

My whole point was about the Indian tail recklessly throwing away wickets yesterday. Surely that was not team plan?

 

[Pushka]

I don't disagree with you but still in with chance.

My whole point was about the Indian tail recklessly throwing away wickets yesterday. Surely that was not team plan?

I’d suggest they were told to make hay thinking they would declare shortly. No use in them just hanging around and not scoring runs and wasting time.

 

[QF WP]

Just watched the dismissal this morning. Paine - he was going along so well, what made him think that pulling the ball from well outside off was the right shot?? Marsh - were was your footwork?? Non-existent.

 

[QF WP]

I don't disagree with you but still in with chance.

My whole point was about the Indian tail recklessly throwing away wickets yesterday. Surely that was not team plan?

Their plan was all about quick runs to nail the coffin shut. The bowlers didn't want to spend a long time out in the middle batting - quite the opposite.

 

[love_the_life]

And it grinds on towards what must be the inevitable. But the tail is certainly wagging.

 

[CaptJCool]

FUN FACT

The 3 bowlers Starc, coughmins and Lyons have scored more than our first 5 dismissed batters.

28, 28, 36. And Hazelwood 7

11, 26, 8, 14, 14

 

[QF WP]

And it's over:

119.5
Wicket
Ashwin to Hazlewood, OUT, edged and caught at second! India win! Ashwin the hero! Beautifully bowled. He flighted this, loop, drift and drop outside off, lured a drive, it spins away, he gets an edge, it flies low to KL Rahul and he clutches it just above the turf!
JR Hazlewood c Rahul b Ashwin 13 (43b 1x4 0x6) SR: 30.23

We lost by 31. Much closer than I thought they'd get

 

[CaptJCool]

And there did it

All over. All out 291. 31 runs in it

 

[Pushka]

And it's over:

119.5
Wicket
Ashwin to Hazlewood, OUT, edged and caught at second! India win! Ashwin the hero! Beautifully bowled. He flighted this, loop, drift and drop outside off, lured a drive, it spins away, he gets an edge, it flies low to KL Rahul and he clutches it just above the turf!
JR Hazlewood c Rahul b Ashwin 13 (43b 1x4 0x6) SR: 30.23

It’s hard to know given CaptJCool’s fact above, where they can go from here. Had the earlier batsmen made the runs and the tail fizzled, well, that’s cricket, but they can’t even console themselves with that.

 

[QF WP]

FUN FACT

The 3 bowlers Starc, coughmins and Lyons have scored more than our first 5 dismissed batters.

28, 28, 36. And Hazelwood 7

11, 26, 8, 14, 14

Lyon got 38 n.o. Hazlewood got 13. This Test was good for all the bowlers batting averages except Hazlewood (0 and 13):

10 & 28 - coughmins
15 & 28 - Starc
24* & 38* - Lyon
0 & 13 - Hazlewood

 

[JohnK]

I’d suggest they were told to make hay thinking they would declare shortly. No use in them just hanging around and not scoring runs and wasting time.

We're not going to agree on this one. Quick runs and reckless are not the same.

Anyway India 1-0 but we came oh so close. Last over before tea. What could have been.

I don't know what the selectors will do but our batting still not up to par. Marsh always gets a score when the discussion turns to droping him. Maybe leave them together for 1 more test. Perth will be a different pitch.

 

[rock86]

We're not going to agree on this one. Quick runs and reckless are not the same.

Anyway India 1-0 but we came oh so close. Last over before tea. What could have been.

I don't know what the selectors will do but our batting still not up to par. Marsh always gets a score when the discussion turns to droping him. Maybe leave them together for 1 more test. Perth will be a different pitch.

And straight from (king) Kholi's mouth, "5/25 from our middle and lower order is not acceptable" - sorry pushka but JohnK has been bang on the money and now confirmed by their captain.

 

[Rallo]

Pathetic batting on Day 2 cost us along with the non-referral of Pujara in the first innings. Hopefully, we can bounce back in Perth, not liking Finch opening I would rather see Renshaw in the lineup. Oh and thanks SACA the only thing to eat in the Village Green today was Indian

 

[rock86]

Quite simply, Pujara the difference. Both teams batting line-ups made several starts but nobody went on with it, except for Pujara.

I'm not overly concerned as Perth will be a much different beast, and while there's certainly still questions marks over our batting line-up if it a 'traditional' Perth pitch, it will be tougher for the Indian bowling attack.

 

[JohnK]

I'm not overly concerned as Perth will be a much different beast, and while there's certainly still questions marks over our batting line-up if it a 'traditional' Perth pitch, it will be tougher for the Indian bowling attack.

So assume series 1-1 after Perth? What's Melbourne and Sydney like these days as I don't follow Shield cricket. Spin friendly? Series could end 2-2 or 2-1 depending on who wins the toss. This is similar to Indian series on South Africa.

 

[Pushka]

I don't understand why India threw it away towards. Stupid tactics. A victory is possible.

Finch extremely lucky to avoid a pair second ball.

This was JohnK’s original post that I commented on.

What the Indian middle and tail enders did was poor execution of a plan to get runs quickly so they could declare. The plan and strategy was fine. The execution wasn’t.

Which is why I asked why this is worse than what the Australian higher order batsmen did?

JohnK then went on to say that he thought as a consequence the Indians deserved to lose. Which was when I pointed out that the Australian higher order hadn’t as a whole performed well either. He then went on to say that he knew that the Australians were trying but failed. Implication being the Indians weren’t trying. To which I responded he couldn’t know tne motivation unless a mind reader.

Of course Kohli would be disappointed that their failure to execute his plan failed and almost cost them the match. Does that statement you’ve quoted prove those batsmen weren’t trying as JohnK suggested? nup, not yet.

And straight from (king) Kholi's mouth, "5/25 from our middle and lower order is not acceptable" - sorry pushka but JohnK has been bang on the money and now confirmed by their captain.

Well I wasn’t going to mention who got the game result right but hey?

 

[rock86]

So assume series 1-1 after Perth? What's Melbourne and Sydney like these days as I don't follow Shield cricket. Spin friendly? Series could end 2-2 or 2-1 depending on who wins the toss. This is similar to Indian series on South Africa.

Definately wouldn't assume 1-1, but I think it will be harder for the Indians to win in Perth compared to Adelaide.

I'm no avid shield follower either, I'm a casual follower who looks at results and highlights. So as for Sydney & Melbourne with my untrained eye, Sydney looks the same as ever, and judging by Melbourne small sample size for shield nothing has changed - even though the MCG curator said he'd be changing a few things to provide some more assistance for the bowlers.

 

[rock86]

Well I wasn’t going to mention who got the game result right but hey?

And well done you did and I did not, at least one person has admitted they were wrong though

 

[Pushka]

And well done you did and I did not, at least one person has admitted they were wrong though

Just then you did.
I’m simply stating that JohnK’s suggestion that the Indians just weren’t trying is not for us to determine.

 

[JohnK]

Just then you did.
I’m simply stating that JohnK’s suggestion that the Indians just weren’t trying is not for us to determine.

@Pushka that was my observation and the observation of many experts. I call it not trying. I call it reckless. I could be wrong. Must put a value on a wicket regardless of your place in the batting order.

And for Kohli to mention it then there was some disconnect between team tactics and execution.

P.S. Australian top order is struggling. I have mentioned a few times some are not good enough for test cricket but that's all we got right now. The scheduling of the Sheffield is awful. Forget Big Bash and Big Smash and other Mickey Mouse leagues. I don't rate the Mickey mouse leagues. That's not cricket. That's some hybrid form of the game like indoor soccer or beach soccer or whatever. Test cricket is the future if this match and the previous match in UAE are any indication.