Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Dan reported that over 100 people who are Covid19 positive were not at home when door knocked!

1 in 4 of positive cases not home when checked by an at home visit.

It was stated to be over two day.....so less than 1 in 4......more like 1 in 8

Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews on ADF door knocks
Premier Daniel Andrews said more than 130 people who have tested positive to coronavirus were not at home over the past two days.

"Those matters have been referred to Victoria Police, that will be a matter for them," Mr Andrews said.

 

[Lynda2475]

The Crossroads and Thai Rock cases indicated weeks ago that people are becoming infectious earlier, in as little as 24 hours not the 4-5 days reported early on. So likely there are many more Qld cases which haven't been tested yet.

not a good day

Well a better day, yesterday there were 6 unknowns, today only 3.

Kerry Chant again said this morning that genomic testing showed all active NSW cases connected to Melbourne, and that she expected to be able to link the Kings Cross/Potts Points cases to another cluster shortly.

 

[Pushka]

Victoria

627 more
8 deaths, 2 in 50s, 3 in 70s, 3 in 80s, 4 in aged care

Post automatically merged: Jul 31, 2020

I actually think the positive is not a relative of one of the three charged.

Edit: if it was, the aged care would have activated their covidsafe plan yesterday, not today.

Reports continue to suggest that they are. And an additional two more. If true they’ve sprinkled it throughout their family.

 

[TheRealTMA]

And now of course the African communities are being racially abused.

There's a lot of sad individuals who are just SM trolls and out-and-out racists. It's unfortunate the the Murdoch press (originally) then others had to play the race card. Can't see how this helps at all except to promote more bigotry.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Well the tone today of the Vic Press Conference is that harsher restrictions are coming, but that they are looking to try and focus them on where transmission is occurring rather than just blanket restrictions for all (which is not to say that some of the restrictions may be blanket it ones).


Our biggest problem in Victoria at present is those that continue to do the wrong thing, rather than the overwhelming majority who are doing the right thing.
My view is that the "wrongdoers" are not just individuals but also include those operating workplaces of many different types and from both the private and non-government sectors (ie Charities, churches etc).

Now why some are doing the wrong thing is complex and low paid workers without access to sickleave is part of this. But one suspects it may well also be some pressure from employers for people to keep working, or perceived pressure where the worker expects that if they do not present for work that they will not be offered further shifts in future. Some may also be self-employed where it is work or don't earn. But there are also a raft of other issues including living conditions, lack of support, language difficulties etc.

Clearly too some individuals too just don't give a damn. Their perceived right to live as they please where they put self before everyone else. Whether it is still to party, go surfing, protest, shop 40km away from home, or they just want the attention. The mind boggles at the selfishness of a minority.

 

[moa999]

not a good day

Still not many unknown cases in NSW and the overall positive rate still under 0.1% versus ~2% in Vic.

And most are linked to places announced a few days ago so hopefully those people have been self-quarantining for some days and not spreading it.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

The Crossroads and Thai Rock cases indicated weeks ago that people are becoming infectious earlier, in as little as 24 hours not the 4-5 days reported early on. So likely there are many more Qld cases which haven't been tested yet.

Yes the index to proof was the Crossroads staff member, they acquired on 3/7 (along with 13 others) and was infectious on 5/7 (one Transmission case happened)

Well a better day, yesterday there were 6 unknowns, today only 3.

Kerry Chant again said this morning that genomic testing showed all active NSW cases connected to Melbourne, and that she expected to be able to link the Kings Cross/Potts Points cases to another cluster shortly.

relatively better, yes. But still not a good day

when we have up to 11 I recall without a link. 2(today) = 20% under investigation just adds to the worry ...along with 4 generations could occur in a week.

the NSW CHO info is good news as that has been dragging on for what seems like a week now......when time is critical.

 

[jakeseven7]

Is it not better for them to be overstaffed than understaffed taking into account numbers are growing daily? As it's a state by state management of CV who knows what's going on in the background. Maybe they have offered assistance to Victoria and were told no thanks.

No they weren't told no thanks, there are multiple interstate agencies assisting. It has been referred to constantly.

Are contract tracers from other states ie SA or WA helping out Vic? I ask because I have no idea. I don't think this is an area I really want to second guess the decision makers on. I'm just glad that the contract tracers are there and they seem to be doing a good job.

I don't know specifically about SA or WA (I'm sure a quick google might help answer your questions) but government departments in other states and territories are absolutely assisting VIC.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Still not many unknown cases in NSW and the overall positive rate still under 0.1% versus ~2% in Vic.

And most are linked to places announced a few days ago so hopefully those people have been self-quarantining for some days and not spreading it.

The positivity rate is more difficult to establish in NSW because I’m pretty sure they report tests conducted, not test results (happy to be corrected).

i personally think positivity rate is not that useful. If it’s 0.1% that’s still 1 in every 1000

and no one in Australia wants Vic’s 1-3% positiveity rate because it’s likely to indicate a replication rate of 1.

 

[Lynda2475]

The NSW Health site is very clear on who needs to isolate and get tested, who needs to monitor and what sites to watch: COVID-19 latest news and cases updates

 

[jakeseven7]

Melbourne lockdown stage 4 or 5 might be coming soon....

If this is accurate....and assuming 24 hour virus (transmission to infectious) then the attendee was infectious from 25/7 and the new positive was infectious from27/7....four days of risk for the aged care.

edit: it seems the attendee is the aged care worker...so 6 days of risk

I think lockdown version numbers are meaningless now sadly, but regardless - a national goal of 'zero community transmission' would require a co-ordinated lockdown with NSW/ACT also locking down and now probably SE QLD too - we are just waiting for the cases to go up here, and testing rates have been lower, hopefully will change now.

Dan reported that over 100 people who are Covid19 positive were not at home when door knocked!

1 in 4 of positive cases not home when checked by an at home visit.

This behaviour will be happening everywhere including NSW.

I think a national cabinet approach is required to up the ante for people who don't comply if we are really serious about the goal of 'zero community transmission'

Nsw is 21 more

Of the 21 new cases:

• two are linked to the funeral gatherings cluster
• three are associated with the Our Lady of Lebanon cluster
• two are associated with the Thai Rock Wetherill Park cluster
• six are associated with The Apollo restaurant in Potts Point
• two cases are associated with the Mounties Club
• two are returned travellers in hotel quarantine
• one case was acquired in Victoria
• two are under investigation
• one case is linked to a known case that is under investigation.

not a good day

And a massive religious ceremony this weekend smack bang in multiple NSW hot spot suburbs.... it will be celebrated, regardless of restrictions so we can only hope it doesn't spark any more spikes in transmission.

 

[jakeseven7]

Sydney Mosque granted coronavirus exemption for 400 people to celebrate Eid-al-Adha


Hundreds of Muslim worshippers have marked one of Islam's holiest days at a Sydney mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from coronavirus restrictions.

Up to 400 people were allowed inside the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque in Sydney's west under the one-off exemption, granted by NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard.

Under NSW coronavirus restrictions, places of worship are limited to 100 people, or one visitor per four square metres.

Sydney mosque granted COVID-19 exemption for 400 to attend Eid celebrations

Hundreds of Muslim worshippers mark one of Islam's holiest days at the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from COVID-19 restrictions.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Pushka]

No they weren't told no thanks, there are multiple interstate agencies assisting. It has been referred to constantly.



I don't know specifically about SA or WA (I'm sure a quick google might help answer your questions) but government departments in other states and territories are absolutely assisting VIC.

SA sent over our lead tracer plus others several weeks ago. This afternoon specialist nurses are flying over to join the first batch on the weekend.

 

[andye]

There was one in their 50s overnight.

I have no knowledge of any of the patients but it is quite possible to be frail in one's 50s

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The positivity rate is more difficult to establish in NSW because I’m pretty sure they report tests conducted, not test results (happy to be corrected).

How does NSW Health count tests?

COVID-19 (Coronavirus) - How does NSW Health count tests? would imply to me that counted tests are the total of positive and negative test results, and not when the sample is taken.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Sydney Mosque granted coronavirus exemption for 400 people to celebrate Eid-al-Adha


Hundreds of Muslim worshippers have marked one of Islam's holiest days at a Sydney mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from coronavirus restrictions.

Up to 400 people were allowed inside the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque in Sydney's west under the one-off exemption, granted by NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard.

Under NSW coronavirus restrictions, places of worship are limited to 100 people, or one visitor per four square metres.

Sydney mosque granted COVID-19 exemption for 400 to attend Eid celebrations

Hundreds of Muslim worshippers mark one of Islam's holiest days at the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from COVID-19 restrictions.

www.abc.net.au

Surely this should be withdrawn now it’s publicly known and the Minister sacked.

I mean how stupid

Edit....that’s one way to keep it to nil community transmission.(according to scientific definition)....we still know the source.....sigh

 

[I love to travel]

Sydney Mosque granted coronavirus exemption for 400 people to celebrate Eid-al-Adha


Hundreds of Muslim worshippers have marked one of Islam's holiest days at a Sydney mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from coronavirus restrictions.

Up to 400 people were allowed inside the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque in Sydney's west under the one-off exemption, granted by NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard.

Under NSW coronavirus restrictions, places of worship are limited to 100 people, or one visitor per four square metres.

Sydney mosque granted COVID-19 exemption for 400 to attend Eid celebrations

Hundreds of Muslim worshippers mark one of Islam's holiest days at the Auburn Gallipoli Mosque after the NSW Government granted it a temporary exemption from COVID-19 restrictions.

www.abc.net.au

I don't agree with this at all.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

How does NSW Health count tests?

COVID-19 (Coronavirus) - How does NSW Health count tests? would imply to me that counted tests are the total of positive and negative test results, and not when the sample is taken.

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Sorry that implication is not enough....especially when the focus is on multiple tests on one person.

This is from today’s report and typical of all NSW health daily reports (my bold)

There were 25,318 tests reported in the 24-hour reporting period, compared with 27,147 in the previous 24 hours.

Cases	Count
Confirmed cases (including interstate residents in NSW health care facilities)	3,567​
Deaths (in NSW from confirmed cases)	51​
Total tests carried out	1,462,155 ​

 

[Lynda2475]

I don't agree with this at all.

Me either - it is ridiculous - in fact i think we should go back to all churches/mosques/synagogues/temples being closed, and gyms - too high risk at this stage.

Apparently Woolworth's in NSW wants all customers to wear mask now.

 

[RooFlyer]

And now of course the African communities are being racially abused.

Did they destroy their phones at the border because they were coached by a crime syndicate....

Police examine whether COVID-19 women destroyed phones under instruction from crime syndicate

Queensland police investigate whether young women at the centre of the state's latest coronavirus controversy were coached by an organised crime syndicate to cover their tracks at the border.

www.abc.net.au

Are the 'shopper 2' from an African community?

And the mother is not happy that her daughter is being called a criminal.

Check out the text in that ABC report linked above by GMOH:

Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll yesterday publicly lambasted the trio as having been "deceitful, deceptive and quite frankly criminal".

Ms Lasu and Ms Muranga were the target of furious commentary on social media after they were named in reports by most media outlets.

Commissioner Carroll today took aim at people making derogatory comments about the women.

"We have seen community members making comments about certain cultural groups and ethnicities — this is not productive at all," Commissioner Carroll said.

"People doing the wrong thing come from all walks of life, backgrounds and community groups.

"So it is important, especially in these times, that community groups actually come together rather than fracture."

So first the commissioner calls them criminals etc, then she criticises community groups for opening fire.

Of course the high levels of the Victorian Police Force (ie the Commissioner, or Acting) have form in calling out 'criminals' or labeling people 'victims' of a crime before any verdict has been brought in. You'd think they would be as wary as the media usually are and put 'alleged' in front of those terms, especially when there is usually a barrage of microphones and cameras in front of them.