Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[Pushka]

SA has recorded two new cases linked to the Parafield cluster bringing the total number of cases to 33.

The two new cases are a child linked to the family at the centre of the cluster and a man in his thirties - a “casual contact” of a previous case.
Both have been in quarantine and the child has previously tested negative

Very much fudging on what will open up at Christmas time unfortunately.

 

[love_the_life]

And as expected, a new case in ACT - in quarantine from a repatriation flight. No doubt there will be more. Just have to keep it contained in the quarantine hotel.

 

[jakeseven7]

And as expected, a new case in ACT - in quarantine from a repatriation flight. No doubt there will be more. Just have to keep it contained in the quarantine hotel.

 

[jakeseven7]

SA has recorded two new cases linked to the Parafield cluster bringing the total number of cases to 33.

The two new cases are a child linked to the family at the centre of the cluster and a man in his thirties - a “casual contact” of a previous case.
Both have been in quarantine and the child has previously tested negative

SA CHO not happy with massive drop in testing numbers but could be because of heat wave.



Professor Spurrier said the Parafield cluster remained a concern after two new community transmission
and she was “a little disappointed” in the number of tests conducted on Friday, which was 3840.

“I’m sure some of the contribution to this was that it was very hot weather yesterday (so it) was difficult for people to get out,” she said.

“The testing rate was a bit low and I want to see it higher. I’d feel more reassured if we were testing more South Australians with respiratory symptoms.

“It is important that people — particularly those in the western suburbs — who have even the mildest symptoms get tested. It really is the key to our defence at this point in time for this Parafield cluster.”

WA Premier to open border to NSW, Victoria

WA Premier Mark McGowan is today expected to announce the opening of his state's borders to residents of NSW and Victoria for the first time since early April.

www.news.com.au

 

[jase05]

I’m sure some of the contribution to this was that it was very hot weather yesterday (so it) was difficult for people to get out,” she said.

So difficult to get out that the shops were packed. Black Friday sales did a roaring trade yesterday, I think that had more to do with the low numbers than the heat

 

[Pushka]

SA CHO not happy with massive drop in testing numbers but could be because of heat wave.



Professor Spurrier said the Parafield cluster remained a concern after two new community transmission
and she was “a little disappointed” in the number of tests conducted on Friday, which was 3840.

“I’m sure some of the contribution to this was that it was very hot weather yesterday (so it) was difficult for people to get out,” she said.

“The testing rate was a bit low and I want to see it higher. I’d feel more reassured if we were testing more South Australians with respiratory symptoms.

“It is important that people — particularly those in the western suburbs — who have even the mildest symptoms get tested. It really is the key to our defence at this point in time for this Parafield cluster.”

WA Premier to open border to NSW, Victoria

WA Premier Mark McGowan is today expected to announce the opening of his state's borders to residents of NSW and Victoria for the first time since early April.

www.news.com.au

Yeah. 40 degrees will do that. And I suspect so many that have been tested were the Worried Well. As long as all those in the troubling areas and those In quarantine are regularly tested then that's the main thing. Cooler this arvo.

I went to Harvey Norman and Bunnings yesterday on Port Road (yes, near the Woodville Pizza place) and wore a mask but both shops were deserted.

Shops are air conditioned so not surprising people went there. Only a couple of the testing stations were inside and the thought of hours of waiting in cars will stop anyone. And the outside stations were closed from 11am until 8pm.

 

[Flying mermaid]

ACT had one case yesterday. Diplomat who flew into Sydney then drove back to Canberra to go into quarantine. Because they are not bound by the same rules as Australians she didn't have to quarantine in Sydney so becomes a statistic for us.
I am expecting some cases from the repatriation flights (the first came in during the week).
Police and defence are minding them - no private security companies at all.

There was one today from the flight. She had the virus a month ago and it was a low positive so they don’t believe she was infectious

 

[nutwood]

SA has recorded two new cases linked to the Parafield cluster bringing the total number of cases to 33.

The two new cases are a child linked to the family at the centre of the cluster and a man in his thirties - a “casual contact” of a previous case.
Both have been in quarantine and the child has previously tested negative

Interesting how long they are taking to come to the surface. Could it be possible that they are actually contracting the virus whilst in quarantine? Either that or this strain is nowhere near as fast acting as we've been told.
The other interesting factor is the weather. Reportedly, COVID likes chilly conditions. If it wants to take over Adelaide at the moment, it better evolve pretty rapidly. Perhaps a day at the beach is not such a bad thing!

 

[Pushka]

Interesting how long they are taking to come to the surface. Could it be possible that they are actually contracting the virus whilst in quarantine? Either that or this strain is nowhere near as fast acting as we've been told.
The other interesting factor is the weather. Reportedly, COVID likes chilly conditions. If it wants to take over Adelaide at the moment, it better evolve pretty rapidly. Perhaps a day at the beach is not such a bad thing!

The fast acting spread got tossed out with pizza guy. The child today had symptoms but only just tested positive after several negatives. The guy today was in about Day 10 from contact.
No one in hospital now.

 

[nutwood]

The fast acting spread got tossed out with pizza guy. The child today had symptoms but only just tested positive after several negatives. The guy today was in about Day 10 from contact.
No one in hospital now.

Thanks for that. It all seems a bit vague with the positive after multiple negatives.
My better half is currently stressing because she keeps coughing and I just returned from NSW. I had close contact with exactly five people and she spent yesterday whipper snippering arum lilies but the virus is always with us!

 

[love_the_life]

Interesting how long they are taking to come to the surface. Could it be possible that they are actually contracting the virus whilst in quarantine? Either that or this strain is nowhere near as fast acting as we've been told.
The other interesting factor is the weather. Reportedly, COVID likes chilly conditions. If it wants to take over Adelaide at the moment, it better evolve pretty rapidly. Perhaps a day at the beach is not such a bad thing!

there was a report along those lines - a few people contracted the virus at the quarantine hotel - now how correct that is I cannot say.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

To be honest, the reporting of SA details has been quite opaque (unclear whether intentional or not).

It seems this cluster is not going to blow out like Auckland (cold store lead to 150-200) or even Thai Rock (about 100) or even Crossroads (about 60).

Australia’s active local cases
NSW - 8 (LGA: Wingecarribee x 5, Liverpool, Fairfield, Campbelltown)
SA - 17 (in quarantine)

 

[Lynda2475]

Noting that SA must be determining "active" cases differently. In NSW is cases where onset of symptoms (or in case of asymptomatic positive test) was within last 4 weeks. All of the 8 cases are well over a fortnight old so not contagious.

However its only 2 weeks since first Parafield case, and 31 connected cases, so not sure how they can claim only 17 are active.

Again national definitions are required.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Noting that SA must be determining "active" cases differently. In NSW is cases where onset of symptoms (or in case of asymptomatic positive test) was within last 4 weeks. All of the 8 cases are well over a fortnight old so not contagious.

However its only 2 weeks since first Parafield case, and 31 connected cases, so not sure how they can claim only 17 are active.

Again national definitions are required.

I think NSW stopped tracking recoveries quite a while ago and on their own just started using 4 weeks as a proxy for active.

It seems everyone else is using recoveries to determine remaining actives

 

[Pushka]

Noting that SA must be determining "active" cases differently. In NSW is cases where onset of symptoms (or in case of asymptomatic positive test) was within last 4 weeks. All of the 8 cases are well over a fortnight old so not contagious.

However its only 2 weeks since first Parafield case, and 31 connected cases, so not sure how they can claim only 17 are active.

Again national definitions are required.

It seems but just an interpretation from non information disclosed, but very few are showing any symptoms. So the definition of being cleared here, or not infectious, is four days after the last symptom disappeared. So that makes for an interesting development.

 

[nutwood]

Noting that SA must be determining "active" cases differently. In NSW is cases where onset of symptoms (or in case of asymptomatic positive test) was within last 4 weeks. All of the 8 cases are well over a fortnight old so not contagious.

However its only 2 weeks since first Parafield case, and 31 connected cases, so not sure how they can claim only 17 are active.

Again national definitions are required.

Situation normal. Federal Government out to lunch. Understand health is a State issue but ultimately the health of Australia is a Federal issue.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Noting that SA must be determining "active" cases differently. In NSW is cases where onset of symptoms (or in case of asymptomatic positive test) was within last 4 weeks. All of the 8 cases are well over a fortnight old so not contagious.

However its only 2 weeks since first Parafield case, and 31 connected cases, so not sure how they can claim only 17 are active.

Again national definitions are required.

The first positive test was well after the cluster actually commenced and was also not the first local transmission, and so many would have been infected well prior to being tested (ie which is why so many in the family all tested positive on the same day). So not really a surprise that they would recover and have a negative test result quite quickly, as it is not really quick.

 

[nutwood]

The first positive test was well after the cluster actually commenced and was also not the first local transmission, and so many would have been infected well prior to being tested (ie which is why so many in the family all tested positive on the same day). So not really a surprise that they would recover and have a negative test result quite quickly, as it is not really quick.

Sorry if I'm being confused as to sequence but my reading was multiple negatives, followed by positive, quite a few days into quarantine?

 

[RooFlyer]

Understand health is a State issue but ultimately the health of Australia is a Federal issue.

Well, yes; but ultimately everything in Australia is a federal issue. Clearly the States and territories are running COVID health policies, relying on the feds for much of the funding. As we've seen from National Cabinet, the Feds can encourage and even get agreement from the States on definitions, courses of actions, but at the end of the day, and in practicality, the States do as they please. I guess the Feds could come in and wield a big funding stick, but I wonder how well that would go down with people?

 

[nutwood]

Well, yes; but ultimately everything in Australia is a federal issue. Clearly the States and territories are running COVID health policies, relying on the feds for much of the funding. As we've seen from National Cabinet, the Feds can encourage and even get agreement from the States on definitions, courses of actions, but at the end of the day, and in practicality, the States do as they please. I guess the Feds could come in and wield a big funding stick, but I wonder how well that would go down with people?

Totally agree but realistically, how long can the feds fly under the radar? The situation is crying out for strong central leadership and the current interstate schmozzle's are caused by lack of same.