Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[OATEK]

That's what I'm saying though.... they have to travel through the airport, various touchpoints, etc. So if that's safe, then why not a plane load of passengers? Logic is lacking here!

Could be minimum staff level for the flight (eg emergency door operation).

 

[lovetravellingoz]

That's what I'm saying though.... they have to travel through the airport, various touchpoints, etc. So if that's safe, then why not a plane load of passengers? Logic is lacking here!

From the article they did not go through the airport, but where returned back to hotel quarantine.

A Melbourne Airport spokesman told NCA NewsWire the crew member was met on arrival at the airport and was isolated at the airport for a short period of time before returning to hotel quarantine.

“While on site we were able to provide isolated seating and bathroom for the affected individual,” the spokesman said.

“Once the crew member had departed, all of the areas they’d visited were deep cleaned before being returned to normal operations.”

A COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria spokeswoman said all other crew members tested negative and were able to leave Australia from Melbourne, but had to do so without any passengers.



However one does wonder why the clearance is not done at the quarantine hotel rather than at the airport as that would minimise risk.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

BREAKING NEWS.

The single Vic case today attended Day 2 of the Test cricket at the MCG.


Everyone who was at the MCG in the Great Southern Stand on Dec 27 has been asked to go and get tested.

From the case today alerts are being issued for the MCG and Chadstone Shopping Centre.


Note that for the cricket that the MCG was split into zones that did not allow mixing between zones due to Covid 19 plan.

This case is currently a mystery case.



EDIT (added after Allen Chen later spoke) He was at the Boxing Day Sales at Chadstone. Not infectious then or at the MCG but he may have caught it at either venue.

So the prioirity now is to try and discover who infected him.

Zone 5 at the MCG had 7000-8000 people in it. All are being contacted and asked to get tested immediately.
We're encouraging anyone who was at the cricket and who was seated in the Great Southern Stand, Zone 5, between 12.30pm and 3.30pm to go and get tested and isolate until they receive a result," Ms Allan said

Purely my speculation: You would suspect that Chadstone the more likely transmission site as Black Rock cases have been at Chadstone and the surrounding suburbs.

Genomic resting results expected late tomorrow. ie Could link to Black Rock Cluster or otherwise.

This case did wait a couple of days after developing symptoms before they got tested. Did self-isolate though.
All his close contacts are now isolating.

Given he was living with other people you would think it quite likely some of them will now also test positive. One of the housemates is now showing symptoms.

Believed to not have a direct link with the Boost Juice Case.

Symptomatic from 30th. Self Isolated from 31st. Positive result on 5th.

 

[Pushka]

BREAKING NEWS.

The single Vic case today attended Day 2 of the Test cricket at the MCG.


Everyone who was at the MCG in the Great Southern Stand on Dec 27 has been asked to go and get tested.

From the case today alerts are being issued for the MCG and Chadstone Shopping Centre.

Sydney must not have a crowd.

 

[Flashback]

From the article they did not go through the airport, but where returned back to hotel quarantine.

A Melbourne Airport spokesman told NCA NewsWire the crew member was met on arrival at the airport and was isolated at the airport for a short period of time before returning to hotel quarantine.

“While on site we were able to provide isolated seating and bathroom for the affected individual,” the spokesman said.

“Once the crew member had departed, all of the areas they’d visited were deep cleaned before being returned to normal operations.”

A COVID-19 Quarantine Victoria spokeswoman said all other crew members tested negative and were able to leave Australia from Melbourne, but had to do so without any passengers.



However one does wonder why the clearance is not done at the quarantine hotel rather than at the airport as that would minimise risk.

I'm aware of that. I'm talking about the crew members that were allowed to continue operating the flight, with no passengers.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Maybe no passenger on the flight because the remaining crew are considered close contacts of the positive crew member.....so agreed halfway house is let them take plane back empty..... as well as minimum safety requirements.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

NSW Presser:

NSW: 4 new local cases.
2 Berala
1 Avalon

Plus 1 case under investigation with no links yet.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

That's what I'm saying though.... they have to travel through the airport, various touchpoints, etc. So if that's safe, then why not a plane load of passengers? Logic is lacking here!

Maybe one of our airline staff can answer... but with one crew member 'down' maybe they don't have enough to cover all the exit doors?

Under normal operations there will be spare crew for doors given they need extra crew to cater for first and business class during meals etc. Under covid, with just 30 pas per flight, maybe they aren't carrying supernumerary?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic Testing wait times. Many sites currently minimal now.

But the call this morning for people at the MCG and Chadstone Boxing Day Sales will most likely see them push out again.

Testing site wait times​

The following drive-through testing sites currently have estimated wait times of over 30 minutes:

Chadstone - Golfers Drive (120 minutes), Banyule Community Health - Greensborough (60 minutes), Monash Health - Clayton Road (40 minutes), Melbourne Sports and Aquatic Centre ( MSAC ) (40 minutes), Peninsula Health - Rosebud Hospital (30 minutes), Western Health - Melbourne Showgrounds (drive through) (30 minutes), Springers Leisure Centre (30 minutes), Western Health - Melbourne Showgrounds (walk in) (30 minutes), Heidelberg Repatriation Hospital (30 minutes).

 

[SydneySwan]

I wonder if any 6s were hit into zone 5 at the MCG. Did any spectators threw the ball back to a player thereby potentially breaching the player bubble? I understand the ball is supposed to be disinfected when ball is returned from the crowd but I am not sure I have noticed this being done in the Big Bash.

 

[Must...Fly!]

Vic health minister, via The Age

He said the hard border would remain until Victoria was confident NSW had its outbreak under control.

“At the moment, we aren’t that confident, so the border remains in place,” he said.

“It is unlikely the border will be removed before the end of January. But this is a day to day, week to week proposition.

 

[nutwood]

I wonder if any 6s were hit into zone 5 at the MCG. Did any spectators threw the ball back to a player thereby potentially breaching the player bubble? I understand the ball is supposed to be disinfected when ball is returned from the crowd but I am not sure I have noticed this being done in the Big Bash.

I wonder if anyone has calculated the probability of a six being hit into the crowd, a COVID carrier retrieving it, contaminating it and then returning it to the field where an unsuspecting player becomes infected...?

 

[lovetravellingoz]

NSW Cases Today: More detail.

One of the cases linked to the Berala cluster is the 18-year-old male from western Sydney announced yesterday who travelled to western NSW.

There's now 16 cases associated with the Berala cluster.

"There was testing of his travel companions of the case first announced yesterday, who visited the towns in western NSW, all have tested negative to date, but remember, they need to be in isolation for the 14 days since their last contact with the gentleman," the states CHO Dr Kerry Chant said.
The second case was a man in his 20s who is a household contact of a case linked to the Avalon cluster.

"This is a household contact that has been in isolation for the full infectious period," Dr Chant said.

The third case is from a household contact of a previously reported case from western Sydney whose source remains under investigation.

The fourth case is a male in his 30s from western Sydney whose source of infection is currently under investigation.

Live blog: Follow latest COVID-19 updates throughout the day

www.9news.com.au

 

[milehighclub]

Maybe one of our airline staff can answer... but with one crew member 'down' maybe they don't have enough to cover all the exit doors?

I suspect that any airline operating with such reduced loads, would not have a full compliment of crew, to keep operating costs down. I can't speak for QR regulations, but there are options available when you operate with a minimum crew and then you lose a crew member.

Given the length of the flight, there would be 4 pilots, so one of the pilots could sit at a door for take off and landing (we do that at when we operate short with no replacement). Also, with no passengers, not all the doors have to be manned or armed. You probably would arm the first 2 sets of doors, with crew in jump seats at those doors and the rest in the cabin. But you can also have everyone at their jump seat as normal.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The Department of Health and Human Services is contacting people who attended the Boxing Day Test at the MCG on 27 December.

This is the SMS that was sent out:

You are receiving this message because you attended the Boxing Day Test at the MCG on 27 December. A person who attended the cricket on that day has since developed COVID-19 and we are trying to identify a possible source for their infection. If you were in the Great Southern Stand, Zone 5 between 12:30pm and 3:30pm you should get tested and isolate until you get a negative result. For more information on testing sites visit Department of Health and Human Services Victoria | Where to get tested

EDIT Note the hyperplink above was actually a web address, but the forum software converted it to what is shown..

 

[MEL_Traveller]

I suspect that any airline operating with such reduced loads, would not have a full compliment of crew, to keep operating costs down. I can't speak for QR regulations, but there are options available when you operate with a minimum crew and then you lose a crew member.

Given the length of the flight, there would be 4 pilots, so one of the pilots could sit at a door for take off and landing (we do that at when we operate short with no replacement). Also, with no passengers, not all the doors have to be manned or armed. You probably would arm the first 2 sets of doors, with crew in jump seats at those doors and the rest in the cabin. But you can also have everyone at their jump seat as normal.

Thanks.

Agree with no pax you don't have to have all the doors manned. But if you have pax, they must all be manned? Hence the reason why, if the QR crew was short, they had to fly back without pax? I guess a pilot would be an option at a door... are they trained for a full evacuation as a crew member rather than pilot? Maybe QR wants to keep their pilots and cabin crew separate?

 

[jeza]

I wonder if any 6s were hit into zone 5 at the MCG. Did any spectators threw the ball back to a player thereby potentially breaching the player bubble? I understand the ball is supposed to be disinfected when ball is returned from the crowd but I am not sure I have noticed this being done in the Big Bash.

Given the Australian batsmen performance in that test I think we can rule out that being a possibility...

 

[milehighclub]

Agree with no pax you don't have to have all the doors manned. But if you have pax, they must all be manned? Hence the reason why, if the QR crew was short, they had to fly back without pax? I guess a pilot would be an option at a door... are they trained for a full evacuation as a crew member rather than pilot? Maybe QR wants to keep their pilots and cabin crew separate?

I have operated flights where we have not had the full cabin crew compliment (this happened a lot on flights from India), but a pilot (who do the same certification as crew) sits at doors 1 and arms/disarms the door, sits there for take off and landing, but resumes their normal duties during the flight. This also has to go through the IOC and the duty captain for approval. This generally only ever happens when away from a home port, because at home, you would call out your standbys.

 

[moa999]

Sydney must not have a crowd.

Every shopping centre must be immediately closed.

Equally a drastic statement. The guy could also have caught it on Xmas day lunch. No need for overreaction until you get a link.

 

[moa999]

wonder if anyone has calculated the probability of a six being hit into the crowd, a COVID carrier retrieving it, contaminating it and then returning it to the field where an unsuspecting player becomes infected...?

It's test cricket.
Not many sixes, nor singing, dancing, shouting, kissing etc.

Only one was hit at the MCG (on the first day by Nathan Lyon)