Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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Not sure why the Feds would not be falling over themselves to facilitate the vaccine rollout in NSW given that NSW has been the 'gold standard' (ScoMo's words) throughout the pandemic in managing cases and keeping the economy going.

Well one would assume that the people deciding where does go and when will have some equitable basis for this.

Has anyone published the actual doses distributed to each state or territory? Though this will be a little complicated as there is the Federal Aged Care Distribution that the Feds are running, and then the distribution to others that each State and Territory is running.


I assume this would be complex as they would be getting deliveries on some form of schedule. And once AZ hits the delivered numbers per week will radically ramp up. But someone may have an indication what say the doses available per each week may be for each state and territory.
 
You can raise security concerns for both the government and privately supplied solutions.

However they should only be storing venue, attendee name, phone, email, entry and exit times. If that info was hacked, not enough details to commit identity fraud etc.

The point of electronic records was so that tracing teams could contact anyone potentially exposed in a matter of minutes - by broadcast sms before following up with call. Tracing will always be faster when tracers have direct access to the check-in data, rather than having to call venues wait for them to retrieve alternate records and forward to tracers.
 
It would be a turn up for the books if say NSW got a higher proportion in the next batch because say at the two week mark or three week mark, the other States/Territories are not showing a proportional ramp up to jab the doses already distributed.

NSW seemly going even keel 10-12k every week for 3 weeks to distribute the 35000 (less any wastage).

On a related point Qld saying they might try to keep borders open longer once phase 1a (in particular aged care sector) get completed.
 
It would be a turn up for the books if say NSW got a higher proportion in the next batch because say at the two week mark or three week mark, the other States/Territories are not showing a proportional ramp up to jab the doses already distributed.

NSW seemly going even keel 10-12k every week for 3 weeks to distribute the 35000 (less any wastage).

On a related point Qld saying they might try to keep borders open longer once phase 1a (in particular aged care sector) get completed.

I think one also needs to factor in the logistics of the operation as the Pfizer Vaccine was not just sitting around in every state and territory waiting to be injected.

As I understand it the Pfizer vaccine landed in NSW on 15th Feb and then were required to be distributed out. And as we know logistics for this particular vaccine are complicated and as such there probably is an initial lag in getting the vaccines distributed out.

The lag for NSW would be less as it just requires trucks from the original storage facility. The other jurisdictions require trucks from that storage facility, flight (or long-distance trucks), trucks to a new local storage/distribution facility, then trucks.

This will be replicated with AZ until the Melbourne AZ production facility cranks up, whereupon Melbourne will become the main distribution hub. Of the remaining many millions of Pfizer does I don't think it has been stated if they will only continue to arrive via Sydney or not. .
 
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Has anyone published the actual doses distributed to each state or territory? Though this will be a little complicated as there is the Federal Aged Care Distribution that the Feds are running, and then the distribution to others that each State and Territory is running.

Tas is easy - we received one tray* last week for state use, and one for federal (aged care) use. :)

* About 195 vials/tray, so nearly 1,200 doses @ 6 per vial)

I guess part of the problem is most states havent managed to dispense even half of the doses they have received to date. Not surprising that NSW has administered the most doses in terms of real numbers, but seems to also be way ahead per population as well, Based in population differences, Vic and Qld should be 3 time the raw numbers of WA, but arent. WA ahead of Queensland with 1/3 population.

Wish there was a nice table showing for each state - number vaccines supplied, number vaccines given by State, number of vaccines given by Feds. Is the delay in some states due to the state or the feds (essential workers vs aged care).

The state tray got fully used at the Royal Hobart Hospital within the week (so, 100% use of doses supplied :) ) and the federal one was still going. Got another 'state' tray yesterday (Sunday).

Pushka posted a state-by-state graph here: General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

Tas, ACT and NT 'leading' then - states/territories not mentioned in the quote (ahem) :) Each probably once central vaccination point initially, so relatively easy logistics.
 
Tas is easy - we received one tray* last week for state use, and one for federal (aged care) use. :)

* About 195 vials/tray, so nearly 1,200 doses @ 6 per vial)



The state tray got fully used at the Royal Hobart Hospital within the week (so, 100% use of doses supplied :) ) and the federal one was still going. Got another 'state' tray yesterday (Sunday).

Pushka posted a state-by-state graph here: General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

Tas, ACT and NT 'leading' then - states/territories not mentioned in the quote (ahem) :) Each probably once central vaccination point initially, so relatively easy logistics.


Thank you on Tasmania.

While I am a fan of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia | Data site, I am pretty sure that their data of what is "delivered" is an injection (so delivered into people) , and not doses distributed (delivered) to each state (which would include those not yet injected).

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Each probably once central vaccination point initially, so relatively easy logistics.

For Pfizer in NSW 3 hospitals RPA, Westmead and Liverpool have been immunising essential workers. 3 Regional hospitals are being added this week (including Dubbo).

For AZ distribution channels will be those sites plus GPs and Pharmacies that sign up.

1 hospital may make sense for Tas or NT or ACT, but Vic and Qld should have multiple hospitals on board already.

Qld did say they took deliveries of Pfizer in Brisbane and Cairns, so must have at least 2 centres.
 
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SA Health said today that stage 2 (1B) will overlap with Stage 1 (1A). SA now has three Pfizer Hubs. On their FB page yesterday they gave a special notice for immunocompromised people that they will be in 1B and that the vaccines were safe. Many Immunocompromised people seem very concerned about the vaccine, given that their condition is caused by rogue antibodies in those who have auto immune illnesses plus the treatment for those conditions.
 
For Pfizer in NSW 3 hospitals RPA, Westmead and Liverpool have been immunising essential workers. 3 Regional hospitals are being added this week (including Dubbo).

For AZ distribution channels will be those sites plus GPs and Pharmacies that sign up.

1 hospital may make sense for Tas or NT or ACT, but Vic and Qld should have multiple hospitals on board already.

Qld did say they took deliveries of Pfizer in Brisbane and Cairns, so must have at least 2 centres.
With Astra Zeneca being available by next week probably, I would guess they will now be made available to phase 1a - which I thought would be done through hubs (and not clinics and pharmacies).

SA Health said today that stage 2 (1B) will overlap with Stage 1 (1A). SA now has three Pfizer Hubs. On their FB page yesterday they gave a special notice for immunocompromised people that they will be in 1B and that the vaccines were safe. Many Immunocompromised people seem very concerned about the vaccine, given that their condition is caused by rogue antibodies in those who have auto immune illnesses plus the treatment for those conditions.

It is interesting that SA has decided to now merge 1a and 1b. Are 1b through clinics/pharmacies? If so, we may need to see how other States respond/change the rollout.
 
1 hospital may make sense for Tas or NT or ACT, but Vic and Qld should have multiple hospitals on board already.

Vic do, not sure which ones, but did see below story today.

It mentions:
Bendigo is one of six statewide vaccination hubs in operation, with three additional regional hubs to open on March 8.

 
For Pfizer in NSW 3 hospitals RPA, Westmead and Liverpool have been immunising essential workers. 3 Regional hospitals are being added this week (including Dubbo).

For AZ distribution channels will be those sites plus GPs and Pharmacies that sign up.

1 hospital may make sense for Tas or NT or ACT, but Vic and Qld should have multiple hospitals on board already.

Qld did say they took deliveries of Pfizer in Brisbane and Cairns, so must have at least 2 centres.


Your source info is out of date, or was wrong from the start.

The first Pfizer hubs last week were:

  • Royal Prince Alfred Hospital (NSW)
  • Westmead Hospital (NSW)
  • Liverpool Hospital (NSW)
  • Monash Medical Centre Clayton (VIC)
  • Sunshine Hospital (VIC)
  • Austin Health (VIC)
  • University Hospital Geelong (VIC)
  • Gold Coast University Hospital (QLD)
  • Cairns Hospital (QLD)
  • Princess Alexandra Hospital (QLD)
  • Royal Adelaide Hospital (SA)
  • Flinders Medical Centre (SA)
  • Perth Children's Hospital (WA)
  • Royal Hobart Hospital (TAS)
  • The Canberra Hospital (ACT)
  • Royal Darwin Hospital (NT)

More have already been added this week, and more will be added still (ie Bendigo and one other in Vic)

The AstraZeneca vaccine will be available at GP respiratory clinics, General Practices that meet specific requirements, Aboriginal Controlled Community Health Services, and state-run vaccination clinics.

 
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Vic do, not sure which ones, but did see below story today.

It mentions:




The other information snippet in that article, was an actual stat of doses delivered in Victoria.

As at February 28, the state government said about 4000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were delivered at vaccination hubs.


So as of Feb 28 Vic has injected 3,762 doses. What this means is that Vic had as of that date injected almost all doses delivered to it.

No doubt as distribution ramps up from Sydney injections will ramp up Australia wide, and when AZ gets deployed it will ramp up again.

The various states can only inject the doses that are delivered to them. NSW is injecting more, but clearly so far has had a lot more delivered to its hubs. No doubt once all the logistics kick into gear it will smooth out to a pro rata basis.

PS: From that article

They anticipate more than 40,000 doses will be delivered in the first four weeks of the program in Victoria.

Some people should be on their second injection and if so that will mean less than 40,000 people injected.
 
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Vic do, not sure which ones, but did see below story today.

It mentions:




More on Bendigo:

Update: Vaccinations

A total of 100 COVID-19 vaccination doses were administered yesterday at hospital vaccination hubs across Victoria.

This brings the total number of vaccine doses administered in Victoria since the program started on Monday 22 February to 3862.

The vaccines are being administered through hospital vaccination hubs managed by public health services. Hubs also manage several special outreach sites including at Melbourne Airport and the Port of Portland.

From today, vaccinations have commenced from the Bendigo and Ballarat hubs. These hubs will focus on public sector residential aged care residents throughout this week.

 
What twit would accept vaccines, without first checking the fridge has a maximum and minimum temperature and alarm?, and a log pad and pen on the side? This will not be the last time the Gomer Pile strikes. Those wasted vials should go to the Zoo, as tigers , cats, ferret and mink can catch covid too.

Talking of ICT, the iron clad know you got your money's worth is consultants who can adapt and modify a system without having to write or wheel in something brand new, or repurpose something already in production somewhere else. In the public service, decisions are usually based on new project money(good) or be punished, write the new system and it comes out of YOUR budget. Secondly NO system whipped up in a hurry will have decent security - like how are you going to import the names of all the doctors /nurses / vets giving the jabs?
I say vets, because most have very good fridges, and they know how to give jabs - and people trust their vet. It can also be sociable and calming for the nervous. Many cats would enjoy seeing their servants being jabbed.

Any incentive to get everyone the jab is a positive. Using the appeal of pets is fair game.

Above all else, sometimes a piece of paper is MORE efficient, and can easily be scraped into existing systems. An average mobile phone or Camera can also hold a lot. The Australian National Library archive TROVE would capture the lot, and ANL for fresh project money would probably say yes. I think all people need is a bit of paper - Medicare Number, Name, sex , age, DOB(extra check), contact number, contact email,bit flags(Allergies,priority group,informed consent form, taken online consent test). And it hurts to say, Facebook ID or other(that would not be expected to match the persons name and any details).

Now you pack all of this goodness - into a QR code, the the person wanting the shot can hand the 'provider' . There is even a new QR format called 'JAB' see QR code - Wikipedia. For those not worried about privacy at all (yes there are some) a little sticker on your medicare card. When flights resume, the airlines or bordersecurity may want to think about JAB QR codes and or secure QR codes, because you would not need magstripe readers. They recently outsourced or are seeking submissions.
 
The other information snippet in that article, was an actual stat of doses delivered in Victoria.

As at February 28, the state government said about 4000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were delivered at vaccination hubs.


So as of Feb 28 Vic has injected 3,762 doses. What this means is that Vic had as of that date injected almost all doses delivered to it.

No doubt as distribution ramps up from Sydney injections will ramp up Australia wide, and when AZ gets deployed it will ramp up again.

The various states can only inject the doses that are delivered to them. NSW is injecting more, but clearly so far has had a lot more delivered to its hubs. No doubt once all the logistics kick into gear it will smooth out to a pro rata basis.

PS: From that article

They anticipate more than 40,000 doses will be delivered in the first four weeks of the program in Victoria.

Some people should be on their second injection and if so that will mean less than 40,000 people injected.
Not based on this one. Just 30%. Go NSW. 75%.
 
Not based on this one. Just 30%. Go NSW. 75%.

I would tend to think that as it is as says allocated to the State Pfizer Hub, but that the actual logistics have it still flowing throw the system from the main distribution system to the vaccination hubs (ie hospitals). Will know by the end of the week as that will have been enough time to have seen it flow out.
 
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I would tend to think that as it is as says allocated, but that the actual logistics have it still flowing throw the system.
Says doses delivered on my page. And the allocation refers simply to Week 1. Then the actual number of vaccinations done which aligns with your figure above. 63,000 delivered total which I think is the number mentioned Federally? Whatever, lets hope that number gets smashed in the next few weeks. 🤞
 
While I am a fan of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia | Data site, I am pretty sure that their data of what is "delivered" is an injection (so delivered into people) , and not doses distributed (delivered) to each state (which would include those not yet injected).

Yes; if you look at the Tas graph / 100 people, it starts a bit late (we got our single State tray a day or so after mainland states) then reaches a plateau after a few days, when the tray of vials had been fully used. ACT and NT the same shape curve; Like Tas, their low populations would have only have gotten a single tray the first week.

BUT if its true that the Tas curve represents the use and finishing of a tray, then the graph would only represent the state program, as the federal aged care tray was still going at the end of last week.
 
The other information snippet in that article, was an actual stat of doses delivered in Victoria.

As at February 28, the state government said about 4000 doses of the Pfizer vaccine were delivered at vaccination hubs.


So as of Feb 28 Vic has injected 3,762 doses. What this means is that Vic had as of that date injected almost all doses delivered to it.

No doubt as distribution ramps up from Sydney injections will ramp up Australia wide, and when AZ gets deployed it will ramp up again.

The various states can only inject the doses that are delivered to them. NSW is injecting more, but clearly so far has had a lot more delivered to its hubs. No doubt once all the logistics kick into gear it will smooth out to a pro rata basis.

PS: From that article

They anticipate more than 40,000 doses will be delivered in the first four weeks of the program in Victoria.

Some people should be on their second injection and if so that will mean less than 40,000 people injected.
“delivered at” could possibly suggest jabs administered.

”delivered to” could possibly be clearer of doses received by Vic.

Public service vagueness/equivocation lol

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Vic do, not sure which ones, but did see below story today.

It mentions:



Also just saw this older article from 3rd Feb applicable to Vic:

The nine vaccine delivery hubs will be set up at:

  • Western Health
  • Austin Health
  • Monash Health
  • Barwon Health
  • Goulburn Valley Health
  • Latrobe Health
  • Bendigo Health
  • Ballarat Health
  • Albury-Wodonga Health
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“delivered at” could possible suggest jabs administered.

”delivered to” could possibly clearer of doses received by Vic.

Public service vagueness/equivocatio lol


Yes you are probably correct.
 
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