Baggage Allowance AA Codeshare

[tobes]

Hello,

I'm flying booked to fly QAN from Melbourne to Boston and back next week. MEL-LAX and LAX-MEL are QF and LAX-BOS, BOS-LAX are AA code share.

I can't figure out what the baggage inclusions are on the legs between LAX and BOS. I am flying regular economy.

Thanks,

 

[hutch]

If this is all the same ticket, the baggage rules of your international ticket apply.

 

[tobes]

Thanks, that is what I thought but I was having trouble confirming that on either the Qantas or AA web sites. They are clear as mud.

 

[hutch]

Thanks, that is what I thought but I was having trouble confirming that on either the Qantas or AA web sites. They are clear as mud.

Actually, QF's isnt too bad.

QF states:

Note for USA and Canada: Under USA and Canadian regulations, if your ultimate ticketed origin or destination is within the USA or Canada, the airline whose flight number appears for the first flight on your ticket will determine whether its baggage rules or another airline's baggage rules will apply to all the flights in your itinerary. For travel between Australia and the USA, usually (but not always) Qantas' baggage rules will apply. However, please note that any additional allowance for Qantas Frequent Flyers or Qantas Club members applies only to the flights specified above.

American Airlines website seems to indicate 2 free bags.

 

[AV8]

Can I assume that an AA Award flight (Y) on AS metal booked by a QF Plat (OWE) will be allowed 2 free checked bags up to 50lb.

 

[NoName]

If you book a domestic flight in the US with QFF pts are you required to pay the checked baggage fee on check in?

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Can I assume that an AA Award flight (Y) on AS metal booked by a QF Plat (OWE) will be allowed 2 free checked bags up to 50lb.

So it's an AA marketed flight but AS metal?

If you book a domestic flight in the US with QFF pts are you required to pay the checked baggage fee on check in?

What is the baggage allowance on the eticket or are you yet to book?

Are you connecting same day from a QF transpac flight?

 

[NoName]

What is the baggage allowance on the eticket or are you yet to book?

Are you connecting same day from a QF transpac flight?

Havent booked one just a general question as it may be something I do next year some time. Just wondering if AA will try to charge me the $25 (or whatever it is these days) fee for checking in a bag if booked this way. Same question goes for Delta if I book on a Velocity award.

 

[ozbeachbabe]

Havent booked one just a general question as it may be something I do next year some time. Just wondering if AA will try to charge me the $25 (or whatever it is these days) fee for checking in a bag if booked this way. Same question goes for Delta if I book on a Velocity award.

If you are flying AA after having stopped over at your points of arrival (ie not connecting same day from a QF transpac flight) then AA won't charge you the $25.00 if you are SG/OWS.

If you have a separate QF ticket eg SYD/LAX but are connecting same day on AA from LAX to another destination on AA eg MIA, then QF can through check your bags to MIA on AA means the QF baggage allowance will apply so you wouldn't need to pay anything to AA as your luggage will have been tagged to MIA. You would need to clear customs on arrival in the US at the gateway point before dropping your bag off on the transfer belt.

 

[AV8]

So it's an AA marketed flight but AS metal?



What is the baggage allowance on the eticket or are you yet to book?

Are you connecting same day from a QF transpac flight?

No there will be no connecting flight & looking at either a stand alone revenue ticket (better $ value) or an award ticket (same flight) - nothing booked yet.

 

[Womble99]

What about multiple flights? I have ADL-SYD-HNL-DFW-ORL-LAX-MLB-ADL with stop overs in HNL, ORL and LA. All flights are QF numbered but the legs from HNL-DFW-ORL and ORL-LAX are on AA aircraft, all flights are economy S. So as we are going to have the same QC baggage allowance as if they are all QF flights or will the 2 AA flights be different. As the previous posters have mentioned it really is as clear as mud if you don't fly a lot?

Any advice is appreciated

Cheers CJ

 

[Womble99]

Anyone able to help out? Multi stop trip all booked with QF flight numbers though the domestic legs are on AA metal, how is the baggage allowance determined for for these two flights? Is it Qantas international or domestic or even domestic AA, the Qantas website is so very clear?

Any advice is appreciated

CJ

 

[serfty]

Assuming this is travel to/from the USA then it's Qantas' baggage allowance.

DOT exception to IATA 302 is for the baggage allowance of the Most Significant Marketing carrier. Anywhere else and it's the operating carrier.

 

[Womble99]

Assuming this is travel to/from the USA then it's Qantas' baggage allowance.

DOT exception to IATA 302 is for the baggage allowance of the Most Significant Marketing carrier. Anywhere else and it's the operating carrier.

Thanks serfty, in my previous post I mentioned it was a multi stop trip from ADL. We will have a week in Hawaii, Orlando and then LA before returning, all booked on Qantas flights (economy S) though the US components are on AA metal. What wasn't clear was what baggage limits apply once we depart Hawaii for Orlando and until we get to LA for our return to ADL. The international flights we have 3 x 23kg for QC but I am not sure if that is the same to the internal flights within the US as they are not connecting flights due to the stop overs?

CJ

 

[madrooster]

Assuming this is travel to/from the USA then it's Qantas' baggage allowance.

DOT exception to IATA 302 is for the baggage allowance of the Most Significant Marketing carrier. Anywhere else and it's the operating carrier.

This is incorrect as of April 2015. IATA 302 now follows most significant marketing carrier as well.

 

[serfty]

Your first baggage allowance excluding any status based/QP additional allowances is your allowance for the entire return journey.

Again this due to being a booking for travel to/from the USA.

 

[madrooster]

What about multiple flights? I have ADL-SYD-HNL-DFW-ORL-LAX-MLB-ADL with stop overs in HNL, ORL and LA. All flights are QF numbered but the legs from HNL-DFW-ORL and ORL-LAX are on AA aircraft, all flights are economy S. So as we are going to have the same QC baggage allowance as if they are all QF flights or will the 2 AA flights be different. As the previous posters have mentioned it really is as clear as mud if you don't fly a lot?

Any advice is appreciated

Cheers CJ

You will have the Qantas Club allowance for ADL-SYD-HNL and LAX-MEL-ADL only which is 3 x 23kg. You will receive the standard QF economy allowance on HNL-DFW-ORL-LAX which is 2 x 23kg.

 

[serfty]

This is incorrect as of April 2015. IATA 302 now follows most significant marketing carrier as well.

News to me ... I don't doubt you...

What about the other facit of the DOT exception I just referred to? (Entire booking, not per 'journey')

 

[Womble99]

You will have the Qantas Club allowance for ADL-SYD-HNL and LAX-MEL-ADL only which is 3 x 23kg. You will receive the standard QF economy allowance on HNL-DFW-ORL-LAX which is 2 x 23kg.

Thanks madrooster

Now I can tell the better half she can't go shopping until LA

CJ

 

[madrooster]

News to me ... I don't doubt you...

What about the other facit of the DOT exception I just referred to? (Entire booking, not per 'journey')

The DoT exception has not changed at all. From April 2015, a number of changes came into effect. The two changes that are public-facing are:

1. Canada's CTA decided to follow the US DoT's exception rules. That means the US DoT exception now applies to tickets where the furthest ticketed point is in the US or Canada.

Note: beware of RTW/circle type tickets, just because it involves travel to the US or Canada, it does not always mean the US DoT exception rules apply.

2. IATA amended resolution 302 with a number of changes, though the main one the travelling public would be affected by is the change from most significant (operating) carrier to most significant marketing carrier.

3. IATA also clarified situations where a single journey traverses two different conference areas, eg. TC3 -> TC2 -> TC1. Example routing: SIN QR x/DOH QR x/LHR BA JFK. In such a situation, the marketing carrier of the flight that does the last conference area traversal is deemed the most significant marketing carrier for this journey. In this case, it's BA.

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Personally, I think using most significant marketing carrier makes a lot more sense and is less confusing for the public. If you booked a ticket with BA, you shouldn't need to go hunting for CX's rules on a BA*CX segment (eg. the BA codeshares on AU-HKG vv.) ...

CX's baggage rules page was updated last year to reflect these changes: Check in baggage - Carrier rules | Baggage information

That page is probably the best out of all airline pages for explaining the current rules.

Thanks madrooster

Now I can tell the better half she can't go shopping until LA

CJ

Pleased to have helped your cause!