Best way to store opened wine

[baldman]

If you only need the wine to stay in good condition for say 10-14 days, then the most efficacious solution is to buy a can of winesave, sparge the bottle, and keep it upright in a cool - fridge, wine fridge, cellar etc - place.

In general, wine preservation is a VERY complex subject as the greatest variable is the different composition of each wine. I helped the founder of winesave launch his product about 8 years ago and it has been well accepted by a great number of the worlds leading wine critics as an excellent, affordable wine preservation system.

if you want to consume a bottle over many months, then Coravin MIGHT be a better option. That said, of the many examples I’ve tasted, the results have been “mixed” to say the least.

finally, I receive no pecuniary benefit from the sales of winesave and am happy to help members offline with this subject if they wish to continue the discussion and / or require further advice.

 

[MrEd]

If you only need the wine to stay in good condition for say 10-14 days, then the most efficacious solution is to buy a can of winesave, sparge the bottle, and keep it upright in a cool - fridge, wine fridge, cellar etc - place.

In general, wine preservation is a VERY complex subject as the greatest variable is the different composition of each wine. I helped the founder of winesave launch his product about 8 years ago and it has been well accepted by a great number of the worlds leading wine critics as an excellent, affordable wine preservation system.

if you want to consume a bottle over many months, then Coravin MIGHT be a better option. That said, of the many examples I’ve tasted, the results have been “mixed” to say the least.

finally, I receive no pecuniary benefit from the sales of winesave and am happy to help members offline with this subject if they wish to continue the discussion and / or require further advice.

I bought a can of the winesave primarily for some of my single malts that I'd like to keep and try over longer periods than say some months. Tested it on a cheap but vibrant Tempranillo as I thought any changes should be easily noticed. Whilst only over a period of 5 days I can say that any degradation was minimal, only noticing very minor oxidation. Without using it, I think this particular wine would have been undrinkable after the same period. Does it work as claimed? I believe so.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I bought a can of the winesave primarily for some of my single malts that I'd like to keep and try over longer periods than say some months. Tested it on a cheap but vibrant Tempranillo as I thought any changes should be easily noticed. Whilst only over a period of 5 days I can say that any degradation was minimal, only noticing very minor oxidation. Without using it, I think this particular wine would have been undrinkable after the same period. Does it work as claimed? I believe so.

Why do you need a wine saver solution for single malts? They don’t degrade because of alcohol and chemistry.

 

[baldman]

I bought a can of the winesave primarily for some of my single malts that I'd like to keep and try over longer periods than say some months. Tested it on a cheap but vibrant Tempranillo as I thought any changes should be easily noticed. Whilst only over a period of 5 days I can say that any degradation was minimal, only noticing very minor oxidation. Without using it, I think this particular wine would have been undrinkable after the same period. Does it work as claimed? I believe so.

Glad to hear you had a good experience.

the storage temperature unquestionably affects the wines “open” life as there is a direct exponential correlation
Between temp increase/ decrease and wine degradation/ longevity.

 

[baldman]

Why do you need a wine saver solution for single malts? They don’t degrade because of alcohol and chemistry.

affects the wines “open” life as there is a direct expo exponential correlation

Why do you need a wine saver solution for single malts? They don’t degrade because of alcohol and chemistry.

Post opening , there will be some diminution of the volatile esters, same as with other high alcohol wines / spirits. The Charentais have a good trick w Cognac which is the adding of glass marbles to the bottle to “ elevate “ the remaining spirit and thus reduce the bottle headspace.

it’s not an oxi issue like wine.

 

[MrEd]

Why do you need a wine saver solution for single malts? They don’t degrade because of alcohol and chemistry.

Whisky changes with time open, I've had enough to know. Doesn't render them undrinkable but they aren't as they were.

 

[HokitikaGold]

until all wine comes in a balthazar recipient, or whisky is in magnums, I doubt I will need for this technology.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Whisky changes with time open, I've had enough to know. Doesn't render them undrinkable but they aren't as they were.

Na. Only drink single malts. Methoxyphenols keep them active. They don’t change over small periods.

 

[MrEd]

Na. Only drink single malts. Methoxyphenols keep them active. They don’t change over small periods.

Each to their own. Just relaying my personal experience in context to the thread ... not looking for argument.

 

[billbro]

buy a can of winesave, sparge the bottle, and keep it upright in a cool - fridge, wine fridge, cellar etc - place.

Any advice on where to grab a few bottles for cheap, I didn't see many retailers stocking it - also wasn't quite sure how long a bottle would last. Vacuvin pumps have worked well to preserve over a few days, but figured the best option was to use both the vac pumps and a bit of the winesave gas.

 

[MrEd]

Any advice on where to grab a few bottles for cheap, I didn't see many retailers stocking it - also wasn't quite sure how long a bottle would last. Vacuvin pumps have worked well to preserve over a few days, but figured the best option was to use both the vac pumps and a bit of the winesave gas.

I wouldn't use the winesave and the vacuum pump together, the gas forms a blanket over the wine. I just did a couple of quick sprays into the bottle whilst cupping my hand over the top, that way you can feel how much is being purged. Just try one bottle first before ordering more and see if it works for you. I got mine from Catch for $33.88 delivered BRAND NEW 2018 Edition winesave PRO, all-natural premium wine preserver made with 100% argon gas - up to 150 applications.

 

[baldman]

That is PRECISELY the correct advice. Personally, I would NEVER use the pump as it is much more likely to “ scalp “ the wine than protect it.
All you need to do is a quick spritz/sparge w winesave and then store the bottle upright in a cool place. DO NOT lie the bottle down as you increase the oxidative surface area.

 

[billbro]

it is much more likely to “ scalp “ the wine

I have no idea what this means, can you elaborate?

It also comes down the cost to me, depending on how long the winesave is going to last me and how expensive the bottle is.

 

[baldman]

I have no idea what this means, can you elaborate?

It also comes down the cost to me, depending on how long the winesave is going to last me and how expensive the bottle is.

“Scalp” is a term used when a wine has been affected / tainted by something that it has come in contact with which has resulted in the flavours and/or the aromas, becoming removed/compressed/compacted. It is often noted with wine’s that are TCA affected, where the wine is not obviously “corked/tainted” but presents as neutral / boring. The pump can NEVER pull a vacuum. It can however remove some of the desirable volatile esters of the wine’s bouquet, hence leaving it flat/ scalped.

i think winesave is now about 100 applications per can so you can do the math.

 

[qaz]

Any advice on where to grab a few bottles for cheap, I didn't see many retailers stocking it - also wasn't quite sure how long a bottle would last. Vacuvin pumps have worked well to preserve over a few days, but figured the best option was to use both the vac pumps and a bit of the winesave gas.

The simplest, cheapest, and one of the most effective ways of preserving wine for a few days after opening, is still to pour into a half-bottle, filling it to the brim and sealing with a screw cap, then keeping it upright in the fridge.

When drinking young wine over a few days, I always double-decant after opening and store in the fridge (in its original bottle, airspace allows ageing/development), then before consuming again, wait for it to return to an optimal temperature after removing.

 

[baldman]

The simplest, cheapest, and one of the most effective ways of preserving wine for a few days after opening, is still to pour into a half-bottle, filling it to the brim and sealing with a screw cap, then keeping it upright in the fridge.

When drinking young wine over a few days, I always double-decant after opening and store in the fridge (in its original bottle, airspace allows ageing/development), then before consuming again, wait for it to return to an optimal temperature after removing.

I agree. If you don’t want to use argon - like winesave, and Coravin - then do what you said. NO pump, no nitrogen coughtail etc. Storage Temperature is THE single most critical factor.

 

[billbro]

The simplest, cheapest, and one of the most effective ways of preserving wine for a few days after opening, is still to pour into a half-bottle

Probably should have thought about this and kept a half bottle and cap, as obvious as it should have been!

Might have to pick up an Eto decanter actually (or not... going through some mixed reviews).

 

[jrod]

I wouldn't use the winesave and the vacuum pump together, the gas forms a blanket over the wine. I just did a couple of quick sprays into the bottle whilst cupping my hand over the top, that way you can feel how much is being purged. Just try one bottle first before ordering more and see if it works for you. I got mine from Catch for $33.88 delivered BRAND NEW 2018 Edition winesave PRO, all-natural premium wine preserver made with 100% argon gas - up to 150 applications.

I do this too. I think I got mine from DM’s but ran out a while ago and need more. Just a couple seconds squirt into the bottle and put in the fridge.

Can someone tell me, how do they bottle wine without exposure to air? And is oxidation a reaction that once started cant’ be stopped, ie if I opened a wine and put the screw cap back on immediately, without pouring any, will the wine oxide and eventually ruin just from that brief exposure?

 

[qaz]

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[RooFlyer]

How Long Does a Bottle of Wine Last After It Is Opened?

People always want to know how long wine will keep in the fridge before it goes bad. Here's the answer.

www.vinography.com

Wine Aerators: $336.9 Million Worth of Bullsh*t

It's practically criminal that these plastic pieces of junk continue to be purchased. They prey on insecurity, are bad for the planet, and generally just suck.

www.vinography.com

Re the second piece: Is a lemonade pitcher going to grace your sideboard any time soon?

Does anyone here find decanters hard to clean?