Booming Chinese airlines offer bargain business flights to Europe

You might also have to double transit as well. Certainly with QR, EK and many other airlines that don't fly non-stop from those cities to Europe.
Actually worse in that you really should do a stopover on seperate tickets.

At CGK, that’s $50 (eVOA) each way + hotel (although that can be as low as another $50). So $200+ but I still save A$4k to $6K….
 
At CGK, that’s $50 (eVOA) each way + hotel (although that can be as low as another $50). So $200+ but I still save A$4k to $6K….

And I've done it too. Many times. But in true J class these days (with lie flat seats etc), the novelty of doing double or triple transits/connections is wearing off for me.

One single transit, at an airport with a decent airline lounge with showers, can be better than multiple transits, some of which have to be landside.

YMMV.
 
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I can get Bangkok to Berlin return with Finnair for about $3500 in May, I'm happy to fly to Bangkok in Y and come back in J as an award, if overnight. If a day flight, no problems going in Y.

We have booked Sydney to Frankfurt in J on Oman for less than $7000 each in June, returning July.
We can afford it, and I would rather pay extra than fly any CCP airlines, regardless of how cheap they are.
 
And I've done it too. Many times. But in true J class these days (with lie flat seats etc), the novelty of doing double or triple transits/connections is wearing off for me.

One single transit, at an airport with a decent airline lounge with showers, can be better than multiple transits, some of which have to be landside.

YMMV.
Same ….
 
And I've done it too. Many times. But in true J class these days (with lie flat seats etc), the novelty of doing double or triple transits/connections is wearing off for me.

One single transit, at an airport with a decent airline lounge with showers, can be better than multiple transits, some of which have to be landside.

YMMV.

I’m quite looking forward to a 12hr layover airside in BKK with a day sleeping room booked for some zzzzs and shower (i rarely sleep on a flight) and having a relaxing 2hrs massage and some Thai food before boarding the flight to Europe via DOH (shortish layover).
 
Not a fan of buses as part of the experience?


Not really. All but one of my arrival/departure flights have been by bus too.

The QR business lounge was not that great IMO. A wait for showers. Noisy. Not great food.

It does look good! It's not terrible by any means!

But naaa. Fine if it's just the one transit. Not so fine if it's transit number two...
 
Not really. All but one of my arrival/departure flights have been by bus too.

The QR business lounge was not that great IMO. A wait for showers. Noisy. Not great food.

It does look good! It's not terrible by any means!

But naaa. Fine if it's just the one transit. Not so fine if it's transit number two...

Is this the Al Mourjan South Lounge? Last couple of times I've used the newer Garden lounge no queues for showers & a lot more peaceful.
 

Eight Chinese airlines now fly to Australia. Here’s how they stack up​

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January 6, 2025 — 5.00am
From SMH: What’s happened to China’s airlines? Before the pandemic, nine mainland China-based carriers were flying into Australia, more than the number of European and North American carriers, carrying an average of 300,000 passengers a month into and out of Australia.

While most of those airlines—eight—have returned, the drop in Chinese tourists arriving on our shores has affected the number of flights operated by those carriers. According to statistics from the Bureau of Infrastructure and Transport Research Economics, as of September 2024, no Chinese carrier is among the top 10 airlines by the number of passengers carried into and out of Australia.


These airlines offer a range of experiences and services, with Hainan and China Southern being the more established in terms of service quality and passenger experience. For travellers looking for the cheapest options, these airlines can provide significant savings, particularly if one navigates through the sometimes complex booking systems or uses third-party sites for better visibility on fares and routes. However, the trade-off might be in service quality, especially with carriers newer to the Australian market or those less focused on international passenger comfort and experience.

China Eastern Airlines connects Melbourne, Sydney, and Brisbane to several Chinese cities, including Shanghai, Nanjing, and Hangzhou. It also offers onward flights from Shanghai to nine European and four North American cities, plus extensive coverage in Asia and China. The airline has a three-star Skytrax rating with mixed reviews. It offers competitive pricing for flights like Sydney to Shanghai at $927, though it scores low on in-flight entertainment.


China Southern Airlines offers flights from Perth, Adelaide, and Brisbane to Guangzhou and from Melbourne and Sydney to Guangzhou and Beijing, with onward non-stop services from Guangzhou to eight European cities, five in North America, and extensive Asian and domestic Chinese routes. The airline enjoys a strong reputation, earning four stars from Skytrax and an 8/10 from over 2000 reviews, with high marks in food, seat comfort, and value, though there have been recent issues with flight cancellations and refunds. In June, return economy flights to London from Sydney, Melbourne, and Brisbane range from $1270 to $1375, while flights to Guangzhou are priced from $807 to $900.


Hainan Airlines provides direct flights from Melbourne and Sydney to Haikou, with onward connections to 14 European cities, 10 Asian destinations, and over 70 cities within China. The airline is highly regarded, holding a five-star Skytrax rating with 8/10 from 415 reviews, excelling especially in staff service, with return economy flights in June to Haikou priced at $990 from Sydney and $950 from Melbourne.
 
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