Cash tipping of aircrew - is it an OK thing to do?

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When will it all stop if we are expected to start tipping FA's? The checkout staff? The petrol station? The doctor's surgery?
I echo the sentiments of others here. Australian wages are high compared to many other countries, the perks that airline staff get alone is worth a lot more than some company bonus schemes (or many other organisations don't even have a bonus!)
I am highly against tipping money and think the new generation of workers out there need to knuckle down, work hard and be consistent in what they do.
 
I know that many travellers believe in the gifting of chocolates etc for aircrew. And I thoroughly agree with the practice. But have not got into that as it requires some forethought, and I am chaotic.

I fly a fair few long haul Qantas trips in J each year. A few times now I have been extremely impressed by the staff - some of the trans-Pacific guys especially rate highly for me.

I am always polite and thankful, but a few times I have felt ike chucking them a $50 note or something. Part of me says that such a gift is peanuts compared to the cost of the flight, and it would allow them to enjoy a few relaxing drinks which they have truly earned. But another part of me cringes at a cash tip for Australian staff. I tip people all the time overseas, but it is just not such a normaliity in Aust.

If I gave a Qantas crew member who was fantastic a large bill and suggested they have a few beers on me, would they be offended?? I just do not understand the dynamic.

Any thoughts?

I seem to recall some time ago , BR (Bossreggie ) spent some $ on ( champagne) drinks with some FA's away from the airport and while they were not in uniform.
 
Thanks for all the comments. I enjoy when opinions are pretty much all in agreement.

Result: cash a definite no-no.

My gut feeling always said that. And I am sure my manners, appreciativeness, etc etc has always been well received. I take on board (sorry) the suggestions that perhaps the best way to truly thank an outstanding service is via official comment about the individual staff member to the airline.

Cheers all.
 
I have always found giving the FAs my glossy magazines after I finish reading them a good tip, they always seem to be pretty appricative of them, and at least they are getting recycled with somebody else!
 
Can tips be accepted?

No

When I have been offered a tip in past, I've been very thankful (I would never be insulted by it), but I offer them to donate it to UNICEF on my behalf since we cannot accept cash from passengers. If you want to recognise crew, write a letter instead.


I do not consider flight attendants 'professionals' (they are wait staff, honestly) and I support the paying of fair wages -- salaries shouldn't need to be supplemented with tips or gifts.

I find this post very insulting. Wait staff? I don't know many wait staff that have a 1500 page manual about their job, requiring testing every 6 months to keep it.
 
I find this post very insulting. Wait staff? I don't know many wait staff that have a 1500 page manual about their job, requiring testing every 6 months to keep it.

Exactly, I classified that comment as having absolutely no basis in fact.


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milehighclub said:
I find this post very insulting. Wait staff? I don't know many wait staff that have a 1500 page manual about their job, requiring testing every 6 months to keep it.

Exactly, I classified that comment as having absolutely no basis in fact.


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+1 - although it would add to the dining experience if more restaurants had staff that were to give a safety briefing before commencing the meal, and evacuate me from the building in the event of a crash landing....;)
 
+1 - although it would add to the dining experience if more restaurants had staff that were to give a safety briefing before commencing the meal, and evacuate me from the building in the event of a crash landing....;)

Or tell you to sit upright between desert & that final glass of noble one;)
 
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This is a ridiculous idea and one that I hope does not grow on. I do not consider flight attendants 'professionals' (they are wait staff, honestly) and I support the paying of fair wages -- salaries shouldn't need to be supplemented with tips or gifts.


Wait staff is a very harsh and unfair description. I would fall on my sword with that one, had I made that comment.

However, I agree with no tipping. Positive feedback to the airline about the employee would be good.
 
I have always found giving the FAs my glossy magazines after I finish reading them a good tip, they always seem to be pretty appricative of them, and at least they are getting recycled with somebody else!

That's actually a nice thought.
 
This is a ridiculous idea and one that I hope does not grow on. I do not consider flight attendants 'professionals' (they are wait staff, honestly) and I support the paying of fair wages -- salaries shouldn't need to be supplemented with tips or gifts.

Regarding gifts, should a flight attendant even accept them? What if drugs have been smuggled inside the item?
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion I am sure that most here would find these comments insulting. Not only that but your comments show a total lack of understanding of the true role of a Flight Attendant.
 
I don't believe crew expect tips. Sincere expression of appreciation by passengers is best that could be done.
 
Whilst you are entitled to your opinion I am sure that most here would find these comments insulting. Not only that but your comments show a total lack of understanding of the true role of a Flight Attendant.
Hi there,

I see your point of view, but disagree.

I understand that cabin crew are employed to assist in the event of an emergency, but really, their day-to-day tasks are simply that of wait staff. No (technical) skills required.
 
Hi there,

I see your point of view, but disagree.

I understand that cabin crew are employed to assist in the event of an emergency, but really, their day-to-day tasks are simply that of wait staff. No (technical) skills required.
Using that logic the pilots are there as bus drivers with very few technical skills required.

Actually a wrong assumption as they all need to be trained and current on ALL the technical skills including all of the 1500 page manual that milehighclub mentions.
 
Using that logic the pilots are there as bus drivers with very few technical skills required.

Actually a wrong assumption as they all need to be trained and current on ALL the technical skills including all of the 1500 page manual that milehighclub mentions.

I suspect the issue is that the visible parts of their job are the customer service aspects.
 
When will it all stop if we are expected to start tipping FA's? The checkout staff? The petrol station? The doctor's surgery?
I echo the sentiments of others here. Australian wages are high compared to many other countries, the perks that airline staff get alone is worth a lot more than some company bonus schemes (or many other organisations don't even have a bonus!)
I am highly against tipping money and think the new generation of workers out there need to knuckle down, work hard and be consistent in what they do.

This debate has been very interesting given that only a month ago I travelled overseas with a friend and it was he that tipped a cabin crew member (wasn’t QF as per this post) who impressed him with her attention (to us and other passengers) in J cabin.

I must admit, I cringed at the idea but was too slow to stop him as he didn’t deliberate over his move – an interesting thing here is that my friend is a hospitality professional who is used to tipping in return for good service.

But please don’t interpret this as expecting to be tipped because he moves around exclusive and often closed to general public establishments where base wage doesn’t need to be supplemented by tips.

When I asked him to qualify his gesture, there wasn’t a single word around monetary value that the bank note represented but simply a currency of thank you, in hospitality talk.

Whilst I personally still wouldn’t choose to tip a cabin crew member, my friend’s gesture somehow resonates with a similar spontaneous gesture I resorted to just yesterday when in a random restaurant I asked for chips to be so well done it may as well be burnt. I can’t help that I like burnt chips and normally can’t get it anywhere near the way I like it – yesterday however, this chef did exactly as requested. I was so impressed I asked to see him and tipped him as a way of saying thank you. As it were, the tip came to about 25% of the total dinner price (inclusive of wine) but the value did not play any part in my gesture.

Also, it didn’t even cross my mind if the chef is paid well or not but in the spontaneity of the moment I wanted to express my gratitude in a little different way by tipping the chef instead of the waiter, hoping that this departure from the ‘norm’ would demonstrate to the chef just how much I appreciated his departure from his norm by taking the ‘risk’ of serving burnt chips.

So, maybe those few individuals who wish to tip a cabin crew member are simply impressed enough to want to give something away. In some cultures it is not completely unusual for a person to take a piece of personal jewellery off to give to another person as a way of showing gratitude for the received hospitality, so why not gift in a form of the tip?

I accept the practice of tipping is misaligned with the Australian ways but if tipping is seen as gifting, is it still unacceptable? On a practical note however, for those who are subject to Australian income tax laws, ATO does have a view on tipping and would expect such amounts to be declared as a part of one’s income.

Whether appropriate or not in one’s eyes, tipping of cabin crew, however practical for the giving party, could be certainly very impractical for the receiving party.

I personally shall continue to write in to the airline’s management, trusting that my compliment about a specific outstanding individual not only reaches them but also ends up on their file for when they are looking for promotions or career opportunities down the track.
 
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Using that logic the pilots are there as bus drivers with very few technical skills required.

Actually a wrong assumption as they all need to be trained and current on ALL the technical skills including all of the 1500 page manual that milehighclub mentions.
Actually, yes, I do see many similarities between pilots and bus drivers today. I was watching Air Crash Investigation and learnt that all commercial aircraft actually land themselves and fly using the auto-pilot. I understand that pilots were of use in years past, and that when things go wrong, having a skilled workforce on hand is advantageous, but at the end of the day, pilots are not that different from bus drivers.
 
Actually, yes, I do see many similarities between pilots and bus drivers today. I was watching Air Crash Investigation and learnt that all commercial aircraft actually land themselves and fly using the auto-pilot. I understand that pilots were of use in years past, and that when things go wrong, having a skilled workforce on hand is advantageous, but at the end of the day, pilots are not that different from bus drivers.

That is even more insulting than calling me wait staff.

I get that a big portion of my job is serving meals and drinks but I can 100000% assure you I have to deal with a lot more than just that. Fire fighting, security, medical - the list goes on, most things unnoticed by most passengers, and far above and beyond what is required from those who work in restaurants. Not to take away from those who do, I used to be a waiter prior to flying, but you can't even begin to compare the two.

Nor can you even begin to compare a bus driver to a pilot (even if they fly an Airbus!)

I would consider myself a service professional but to brush me off as just wait staff......
 
Actually, yes, I do see many similarities between pilots and bus drivers today. I was watching Air Crash Investigation and learnt that all commercial aircraft actually land themselves and fly using the auto-pilot. I understand that pilots were of use in years past, and that when things go wrong, having a skilled workforce on hand is advantageous, but at the end of the day, pilots are not that different from bus drivers.

You clearly have no idea of what you are talking about, in relation to both pilots and cabin crew.

What a shame you don't use your real name - I'm sure pilots and crew would love to treat you when flying with the same respect you show them ....
 
. I do not consider flight attendants 'professionals' (they are wait staff, honestly) and I support the paying of fair wages -- salaries shouldn't need to be supplemented with tips or gifts.

Well that is magnanimous of you. Everyone is entitled to a fair wage. However your assertions are incorrect.

Wait staff? You are way off the mark there. FA's are required under legislation to ensure your safety.

Legally you are required to follow their directions. There are legal consequences if you do not.

Their roles and training are tightly regulated.

I hope you never have to avail yourself of their broad spectrum of skills.




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