Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations

[cosi]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Had a staff member who was not well (flu) travelling on CX from PER - HND

Unbelievable, but the connecting flight from HKG CX548 was DELAYED 6 hours.

Have not spoken to my staff, so don't know the reason for the delay. Incoming flight was on time.

Date of flight was Saturday 8/10/16.

Since she was departing from CX home port, you would have thought CX would have swap the plane.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Had a staff member who was not well (flu) travelling on CX from PER - HND

Unbelievable, but the connecting flight from HKG CX548 was DELAYED 6 hours.

Have not spoken to my staff, so don't know the reason for the delay. Incoming flight was on time.

Date of flight was Saturday 8/10/16.

Since she was departing from CX home port, you would have thought CX would have swap the plane.

548 is a 4-class with F. They don't always have a lot of those hanging around HKG. Although a delay of that long is unusual.

 

[Melburnian1]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

On Wednesday 19 October, CX111, the 1850 hours Tuesday 18 that took off at 2050 from HKG should arrive in SYD at 0825, 75 minutes behind schedule. CX110 returning from SYD to HKG is suggested as departing at 0930, meaning a quick (and about the best achievable) 65 minutes in SYD for a 1610 hours arrival in HKG, also an hour behind.

 

[Melburnian1]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Thursday 20 October sees CX135, the Wednesday 19 October HKG - MEL that was airborne at 2018 arriving at around 0810 hours, 45 minutes behind schedule. B-LAL is the usual A333.

CX134 from MEL to HKG has an amended departure time of 0905 in lieu of 0845 but a more realistic chocks off time might be 0915.

 

[albatross710]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Well it seems I am a typhoon chaser as I'm heading into HKG over the weekend.

Will be interesting to see the impact on schedules. Of course, my concerns about my travel plans is nothing compared to the thread that this storm is.

 

[Melburnian1]

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albatross710, CX110 and CX162, respectively the 0830 and 1100 hours from SYD to HKG on Friday 21 October have been cancelled.

CX134, the 0845 from MEL to HKG has also got the boot as has CX146 (1455 hours CNS - HKG). The latter has this note pinned:Advice to Passengers:
Departure:CX146/20OCT is delay, passenger please arrive airport on time for alternative flight arrangement, sorry for inconvenience.

CX170, the very late evening 21 October 2355 hours from PER to HKG has been altered to depart on Saturday 22 October at an estimated 0755 hours, but that might change closer to tomorrow morning depending on the severity of the typhoon, the resultant congestion at Hong Kong International Airport and so on.

CX136, the 0710 hours from PER up to HKG is also not running. Unlike some of the others, on the CX website this cancellation has a good note stating 'Advice to Passengers:
Departure:Please be advised CX136/21OCT Perth to Hong Kong has been cancelled due to Typhoon Haima, please contact your Travel Agent or go to Manage your booking on wwww.cathaypacific.com to obtain your updated flight details. Cathay Pacific'

 

[Melburnian1]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

On Saturday 22 October, CX135, the 0725 hours arrival from HKG into MEL is cancelled.

There must be a growing backlog of passengers unable to get into and out of HKG due to Typhoon Haima. It is often interesting how airlines deal with backlogs: when they can - not always easy - extra flights are put on but many passengers are accommodated using otherwise empty seats on subsequent flights. Hopefully in 36 hours most passengers will be where they want to go.

 

[Quickstatus]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Melburnian1,

CX has a single hub. I wonder how this affects their operations in these circumstances when their single hub is severely constrained or out of action.

 

[Melburnian1]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Quickstatus, I suspect we don't have to 'wonder' too much: the result is some passengers (if booked ex HKG) not going to the airport because they are notified by text message or other means that their flight is cancelled, or badly delayed.

Unfortunately many would still attend the airport, either because they were offline or lacked a 'device', or had perhaps connected from elsewhere just before the cancelled flights kicked in.Would any sleep in HKIA?

Tech and cabin crew rosters would have to be modified (probably almost all done by software). Some catering might end up in industrial waste bins (sad when there are homeless people or those whose means would appreciate extra food, but it is highly perishable in a warmer climate if not kept chilled).

The untold story includes whether there is sudden pressure on hotel accommodation because many need to stay an extra night. This may be balanced somewhat by no shows who should have arrived, but if one has a confirmed credit card booking, the room may be 'held' until fairly late meaning it is unavailable for anyone else.

 

[Quickstatus]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

A quick search on the usual hotel booking engines for HKG show widespread availability this weekend. As you said no one can enter or leave so the numbers would be static.

 

[albatross710]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Was interesting to note that the CX157 HKG to BNE on Friday was cancelled. The aircraft usually turnarounds to operate CX156.

The CX156 BNE-HKG on Friday night operated. So, where did the Friday night's CX156 aircraft come

I'm thinking it was a relocation from one of the other cities cancelled flights.

Alby

 

[Quickstatus]

You picked up an interesting scenario Albatross710
You are correct usually 157 turns around to operate 156.
However on that day 156 was operated by the aircraft that operated CX103.
This aircraft diverted to CEB and then onflew to CNS. The flight then unusually extended to BNE under the same moniker.
So CX 103 which usually operated HKG-CNS performed HKG-CEB-CNS-BNE

19/10 2146 departed HKG on schedule
20/10 0055am diverted to CEB - did not look planned as the aircraft overflew CEB for some time before turning around
20/10 1426hrs departed CEB - so possibly a mechanical fault? And allowed crew rest
20/10 2056hrs landed CNS
20/10 1040hrs departed CNS
21/10 1224hrs landed BNE

21/10 1323hrs departed BNE as CX156 and then only approx 30 minutes late. A few minutes earlier it would have qualified as an non delayed departure under the standards of this thread.

The aircraft prob picked up some passengers from CNS and the rest from BNE. At BNE the turnaround time was under 1 hour. Not often seen for an A330-300. I speculate that at BNE it was a fuel topup, pick up passengers and their luggage and re cater plus pilot checks, reprogramming of flight computer possibly crew change?

Melburnian1 can all this be done in under 1 hour?
Even the splash and dash (fuel pickup only) by White Roo's LAX-MEL flights have a longer than 1 hour ground time. (Pilot checklist and reprogramming the aircraft would take significant time Im sure)

Additionally this highlights the clear benefits of a 24hr airport operation.

 

[Melburnian1]

Quickstatus, I cannot be definitive but the quickest observed turnaround time for an A333 is about 65 to 70 minutes. There are many turnarounds that we will have not monitored. That's not to say it cannot be done in under an hour, but boy, considering what has to occur, that would be fast.

You may mean '1323 hours' above as the CX156 departure time on 21 October ex BNE in your otherwise informative summary. I hope passengers were given hotel rooms in Cebu.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Wednesday 26 October, CX135 from HKG (A333 B-LAH) is arriving MEL at around 0759, 34 minutes behind schedule.

 

[Melburnian1]

CX170, the Wednesday 26 October close to midnight 2355 hours from PER to HKG was not airborne until 0352 hours - a shocking time to depart - on Thursday 27. Expected arrival in HKG at 1134 instead of 0755 means it should be 219 minutes late, no doubt resulting in rebooking on later connecting flights to mainland China, Philippines, Taiwan and numerous other destinations. A333 B-LAH is the plane.

 

[Melburnian1]

Due to strong winds, on Saturday 5 November 2016 SYD has been down to mostly one runway thus far with significant delays ensuing to almost all departures.

CX162, the 1125 hours from SYD to HKG took off at 1242 hours. Arrival of A333 B-LAF should be at 1849, 59 minutes late but this can be a busy time at HKG and some further delays with the amount of arriving 'traffic' may occur.

 

[Melburnian1]

wednesday 9 November 2016 has CX100, the 1550 hours from SYD to HKG having been airborne at 1754. Arrival of B773ER B-KPZ should be at 2333 hours, 98 minutes tardy.

 

[albatross710]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Just completed BNE/HKG/CEB then MNL/HKG/BNE with all flights on time, even arriving into BNE 30 minutes early on the return.

Minor glitch when we arrived into Cebu to find two of our bags had missed the one hour connection. It is an allowed interval all on CX metal and we had actually arrived into HKG about 15 minutes early. CX processed the bags onto the next flight and had them to our hotel about 10 hours after our arrival and two hours before our travel insurance compensation kicked in.

Happy days

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Re: General Cathay Pacific Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Dunno what happened to the CX178 on yesterday (11/11). Scheduled departure 0050 shows as a departure of 0310, followed by a diversion to MNL. Final arrival innto HKG at 1303. 6 hours behind schedule.

From the CX flight stats page:

[TABLE="class: tblNorm thin tblFlightStatus, width: 923"][TR="class: odd ctr resultrow"][TD="class: mid, bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]CX178[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MEL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]HKG[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 00:50[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 00:50[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 07:00[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 07:00[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]REROUTED[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][/TR][TR="class: odd ctr resultrow"][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MNL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]HKG[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 10:54[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 10:54[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 07:00[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 13:03[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]ARRIVED LATE[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][/TR][TR="class: odd ctr resultrow"][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MEL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MEL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 00:50[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 00:50[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 01:30[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 01:30[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]ARRIVED ON TIME[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][/TR][TR="class: odd ctr resultrow"][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MEL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]MNL[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 00:50[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 03:10[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 08:26[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]11 Nov 08:26[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]ARRIVED ON TIME[/TD][TD="bgcolor: #EBECED, align: center"]-[/TD][/TR][/TABLE]Flightaware showed departure from MEL at 0310 followed by a 7hr55 flight time, but didn't originally show a diversion to MNL (now updated) and I was wondering how they did such a fast flight time... but that's explained now!

 

[FL360]

16 Nov cx138 syd hkg delay 10 hrs to around 8:30 17 Nov, interestingly the inbound cx139 is on time.