Cathay to cut worldwide capacity by 30% [Now 96%]

[burmans]

So there are reports in the press that 90% of flights in April have been canned but can't find any official list of what's been cancelled, any ideas of where I look.

 

[PineappleSkip]

You could try expertflyer or similar and see what’s available. CX website updates appear to be way out of date, they have travel advice about entering Australia that is weeks old.

 

[cosi]

Cathay now to cut capacity by 96%

Cathay Pacific axes almost all Australian (and worldwide) flights

Cathay will slash its global network to just 12 cities, and Sydney is the sole Australian survivor.

www.executivetraveller.com

Post automatically merged: Mar 20, 2020

Can one of the Mods update the thread title.

Thanks

 

[PineappleSkip]

A blast from the past. CX157 just flew past en route back to HKG. A blast from the past - my former (air)bus to work. It flew in as CX156, a 777 this time, three hours before the schedule yesterday. Presumably this is one of the Repat flights from HKG, although I thought QF and VA were operating them.
cheers skip

 

[AIRwin]

Cathay airlines report combined HK$4.5 billion loss for start of 2020

Cathay Pacific Group reveals unaudited loss for Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon in stock exchange filing, and senior manager Ronald Lam calls financial outlook ‘very bleak’.

amp.scmp.com

 

[PineappleSkip]

Yikes!

Hong Kong’s flag carrier reported a 99.6 per cent drop in passengers carried in April – the steepest ever reduction recorded by the airline group – from the 3.12 million customers carried in the same month last year.

So that would be about 12,500 passengers for the whole month, not much more than 400 a day!

Cheers skip

 

[tomlee1986]

Yikes!


So that would be about 12,500 passengers for the whole month, not much more than 400 a day!

Cheers skip

the bigger question is will the people come back to CX and HK after the pandemic is over with the protests restarting almost immediately now

 

[OATEK]

Looks like CX have bought more time:

Cathay bailed out to ‘protect Hong Kong’s role as global aviation hub’

With Cathay controlling more than half of passenger traffic and carrying nearly two-fifths of cargo in Hong Kong, officials view the airline’s possible collapse as a fundamental threat to the city’s aviation sector.

www.scmp.com

 

[jakeseven7]

I think it’s more about the protests than Corona long term for CX and HKG and may already be too late, alot of expat businesses had already started moving out of HK for safer regional office locations

 

[tomlee1986]

I think it’s more about the protests than Corona long term for CX and HKG and may already be too late, alit of expat businesses had already started moving out of HK for safer regional office locations

I agree that it may be a bit too late

 

[prozac]

Husband cancelled his Syd to LHR in sept and is now flying with Qantas
Changed a reward booking for Nov from Cathay to Qantas
We still have two legs with Cathay in Nov wondering whether we just swop them over now

How do you book an Asia Mile award on Qantas, or Qatar?

 

[Chicken]

This will be a big shrinkage: Cathay to cut 8,500 jobs, axe Dragon subsidiary

 

[focusedbear]

It is going to get worse. This news is awful for those in HK trying to get back to Australia.

Cathay to axe host of long-haul flights in response to crew quarantine plan

All routes to Australia cut, apart from Sydney, while services to Vancouver, San Francisco and Frankfurt also scrapped. Regional services also hit as airline readies for government-imposed rules.

www.scmp.com

 

[tomlee1986]

Hate to drag into politics... but CX now with the links to CCP and mainland China, I am glad when this airline goes bust... hkers most do NOT want to fly with this airline since mid 2019

 

[aikman]

I'd wait a couple of days. They could very well reinstate the flights just like that other airline.

 

[kamchatsky]

It is going to get worse. This news is awful for those in HK trying to get back to Australia.

Cathay to axe host of long-haul flights in response to crew quarantine plan

All routes to Australia cut, apart from Sydney, while services to Vancouver, San Francisco and Frankfurt also scrapped. Regional services also hit as airline readies for government-imposed rules.

www.scmp.com

Hopefully other airlines can step up and fill in the remaining caps.

Hate to drag into politics... but CX now with the links to CCP and mainland China, I am glad when this airline goes bust... hkers most do NOT want to fly with this airline since mid 2019

I understand where you are coming from, especially with NSL and CX's implications. But this would hurt the staff far more than management.

I'd wait a couple of days. They could very well reinstate the flights just like that other airline.

Doubt it. This is nothing to do with Australia's cap. It is got to do HK government's requirements for quarantining their own aircrew at home. It meant that aircrew is pretty locked up for months.

I cannot see this being relaxed until HK's COVID cases has dropped to single digits.

 

[tomlee1986]

Hopefully other airlines can step up and fill in the remaining caps.



I understand where you are coming from, especially with NSL and CX's implications. But this would hurt the staff far more than management.



Doubt it. This is nothing to do with Australia's cap. It is got to do HK government's requirements for quarantining their own aircrew at home. It meant that aircrew is pretty locked up for months.

I cannot see this being relaxed until HK's COVID cases has dropped to single digits.

I feel sorry for the staff but as I said, the airline deserved to go bankrupt for going against the back to the people against the tyrant government in CCP

 

[dajop]

Hopefully other airlines can step up and fill in the remaining caps.

No doubt they will. It's not really the responsibility of the other airlines , it's that of the government to ensure the caps are increased for other carriers to absorb the CX capacity. The other airlines don't really have to "step up" at all ("step up" seems to imply adding services) , all they have to do is increase the number of passengers they're carrying on a 300 seat aircraft from say 40 to 55 (or what ever the numbers are). Not too difficult.

 

[PineappleSkip]

the airline deserved to go bankrupt for going against the back to the people against the tyrant government in CCP

What alternative do you think they had?

 

[jb747]

I feel sorry for the staff but as I said, the airline deserved to go bankrupt for going against the back to the people against the tyrant government in CCP

The airline is not the management, whom I expect had very little choice anyway.

What alternative do you think they had?

Exactly.