Circle Pacific Fare increases steeply

[serfty]

... apply.. ie sectors after the first are changeable for US 100 per sector.. whenever they are changed.
No sector repricing.

Yes, the rules apply as per the date ticketed.

• oneworld Circle Pacific rule sheet

Changes to date/time/carrier of a flight segment are free (although you may be charged a service fee).

(A)  REBOOKING/REROUTING

     (1)  Prior to Departure
          a. Before ticket issuance: Rebooking/rerouting permitted
          b. After ticket issuance: First international and preceding 
             sector cannot be changed, subsequent sectors may be 
             changed - apply provisions shown in Subparagraph (c) below.
          -----------
          Local Service fees may apply

     (2)  After departure:
          a. Rebooking permitted: such transaction must be made prior 
             to departure of the flight being changed.
          b. No show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125.00.
          c. Rerouting requiring reissue of flight coupons permitted 
             at a charge of: USD 100.00 /CAD150.00 each converted into 
             local currency at the Bankers rate. (Discounts for
             children/infants not applicable).
          d. At any time: The non-refundable amount may be used as
             credit towards payment of any full mileage or oneworld/Global 
             explorer fare providing those conditions are met.

             NOTE: At all times the original non-refundable amount 
             remains non-refundable, the new ticket and any
             subsequent reissues must be annotated 'NONREF/APEX'.
          -----------
          Local Service fees may apply...

 

[MelUser]

A check at oneworld.com shows no change in fares - the sky hasn't fallen in!

 

[tgh]

Yes , I have kept an eye on the one world site too !!

I really pulled out all stops to have this ticketed overnight, and although I haven't seen the paperwork , I understand that it happened

The latest then was that it was definitely happening and the quantum was a 1500 aud increase for the dcir29sa.

 

[SeaWolf]

I hate to say this, but I think the oneworld site may have just not been updated...
Australian Travel Agent : Best Flights - discount travel - Travel Agent Australia

That's more than it used to be, isn't it?

 

[MelUser]

You're rignt - it is the increased fare. Funny thing is that best flights advertise it as though it is a special: "NEW OFFER! Added this week"

 

[dajop]

Wow that is some increase! I wish the govt would just bite the bullet and allow SQ or others to compete trans pacific (not just DJ).

Product Before After %increase
22K $7.5K $9.3K 24%
26K $9.1k $11.1K 22%
29K $10.6k $12.2K 15%

And that's on top of increased fuel surcharges. Wonder what will happen to the DONE and GLOBEX products, given that at $10.5K the entry products (4 continent, 34K mile respectively) are cheaper than a DCIRC26. Looks like my next visit to US will be via Europe which I guess is a good thing!! (or up the back of the bus if this goes too far ...)

 

[SeaWolf]

They are (once again) more expensive than the competing *A product.

 

[tgh]

If you want to tour South America , they have it all to themselves.
Still a pretty good deal even at the new price, just tally up syd>jfk>Scl>syd

 

[serfty]

A bit of licence:

Product   Before     After       %increase
22K         $7.5K     $9.3K          24%
26K         $9.1k    $11.1K          22%
29K        $10.6k    $12.2K          15%

E/F has been updated.

Now look at these ex USA prices:

Product    USD
22K       $5.5K
26K       $6.6k
29K       $9.9k

Ex Japan:

Product    JPY
22K        577500
26K        704600 
29K       1092000

 

[Evan]

The Australian price just looks silly compared to USA and Japan doesn't it. So it seems the huge rise is mostly for Ex-AU.
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[SeaWolf]

It seems odd, especially for *A which is actively trying to get a bigger share of the Australian market.

 

[dajop]

The Australian price just looks silly compared to USA and Japan doesn't it. So it seems the huge rise is mostly for Ex-AU.
E

Actually, it's even sillier...

Use a D Circle Asia 13K to get to Philippines .. $4649 AUD
Use a DCIRC26 ex Philippines to get to US ... $4651 USD ~ $5000AUD

Total .... $9650 AUD, some $1500 cheaper than purchasing DIRC26 ex-AUS!!!

 

[NM]

The ex-Aus pricing seems to have forgotten that the A$ is no longer trading at US$0.50, but closer to parity.

 

[maninblack]

The ex-Aus pricing seems to have forgotten that the A$ is no longer trading at US$0.50, but closer to parity.

Nothing has been forgotten. Australian travelers are simply getting chiseled.

 

[wrldtrvllr]

The Australian price just looks silly compared to USA and Japan doesn't it. So it seems the huge rise is mostly for Ex-AU.
E

and extra silly vs ex-taiwan. my DCIR29 is now more than 1/2 price that of the new au pricing. hell, you could buy a biz return to taiwan and still be better off....

 

[MelUser]

It appears that Qantas [more correctly the Qantas influence over oneworld] is slowly catching up to us, country by country:

DCIR22 ex MNL is now USD 5,453 (up from 3813 from memory);

DCIR26 ex MNL is now USD 6,653

DCIR29 ex MNL is now USD 7,089

How soon before the QF bean counters get to Indonesia?

 

[simongr]

And that's on top of increased fuel surcharges. Wonder what will happen to the DONE and GLOBEX products, given that at $10.5K the entry products (4 continent, 34K mile respectively) are cheaper than a DCIRC26. Looks like my next visit to US will be via Europe which I guess is a good thing!! (or up the back of the bus if this goes too far ...)

My boss recently queried why I wasnt doing a DCIRC to get to the US in Sep - this is a good reason now...

My big concern is the price of the DONE4 and where that can go now. I ticketed an ex-AUS DONE4 through AA yesterday at about A$10,790 (incl +++) which is close to the price of a corporate SYD-JFK-SYD fare.

 

[NM]

My boss recently queried why I wasnt doing a DCIRC to get to the US in Sep - this is a good reason now...

My big concern is the price of the DONE4 and where that can go now. I ticketed an ex-AUS DONE4 through AA yesterday at about A$10,790 (incl +++) which is close to the price of a corporate SYD-JFK-SYD fare.

Yep gone are the glory days when an ex-Aus DONE4 could be had for under US$5000 including all taxes.

 

[jpk]

Yep gone are the glory days when an ex-Aus DONE4 could be had for under US$5000 including all taxes.

How long ago was that?
And how much was SYD-LAX J back then?

 

[NM]

How long ago was that?
And how much was SYD-LAX J back then?

In Feb 2001 I paid $8214 for a DONE4 and the exchange rate was US$0.515, making it about US$4230 for the airfare as charged to my US-based cost centre.

A year earlier than that I paid A$6620 for a J return BNE-IAD-BNE. Between those two dates I paid A$2942 for an economy BNE-DFW-BNE and A$3185 for an economy BNE-SJC-BNE. I paid $2599 for a LONE4 in October 2000.