Coke Zero coming to a QF domestic flight near you

[Flashback]

As posted by eoinnz on FT FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - New Business Class Amenity Packs

Also look out for Coke Zero on domestic flights by the end of the month!

 

[pauly7]

As posted by eoinnz on FT FlyerTalk Forums - View Single Post - New Business Class Amenity Packs

Ugh..... Give us Pepsi Max!

 

[ejb]

Ugh..... Give us Pepsi Max!

Why?

Coke Zero is so much better and you can use it as a mixer with Wild Turkey.

ejb

 

[pauly7]

Why?

Coke Zero is so much better and you can use it as a mixer with Wild Turkey.

ejb

Why? Because Pepsi Max tastes so much better and you can use it with a mixer with Wild Turkey

 

[markis10]

Fantastic, Qantas is once again doing all it can to increase the average weight of its passengers while helping fellow big corporates with supply of a lower cost product.

 

[pauly7]

Fantastic, Qantas is once again doing all it can to increase the average weight of its passengers while helping fellow big corporates with supply of a lower cost product.

Huh? Coke Zero is a diet no sugar cola....

 

[SeaWolf]

Huh? Coke Zero is a diet no sugar cola....

Bah! It's nothing but Diet Coke for insecure straight guys! :mrgreen:

 

[drewbles]

Why? Because Pepsi Max tastes so much better and you can use it with a mixer with Wild Turkey

If you love the taste of sickly-sweet chemicals.

Pepsi max makes me vomit (quite literally). It's far too artificially sweet for me.

But hey each to their own

(some airlines i've noticed serve both Coke and Pepsi products, although that's more a US thing; I've seen some McDonalds serve Pepsi due to arrangements with specific locations, like hotels in Las Vegas).

 

[drewbles]

Bah! It's nothing but Diet Coke for insecure straight guys! :mrgreen:

I'm no insecure straight guy, and i'll take Coke Zero any day (Diet Coke has a quasi metallic taste to me, Coke Zero is far less "fake")

 

[markis10]

Huh? Coke Zero is a diet no sugar cola....

Artificial Sweeteners have been proven to be of no benefit to you when you are on a diet, they have also been known to make people eat more! Any dietitian will tell you to stay well clear of them, and they can reduce the cost of a drink up to half, at the expense our our sugar industry, as someone who is trying to fit back into a Y seat with more comfort at present I am avoiding such drinks like crazy, and the fact the sweeteners dont occur naturally in nature as far as their chemical compound goes scares the devil out of me in terms of long term effects of their use.

 

[Flashback]

I'm no insecure straight guy, and i'll take Coke Zero any day (Diet Coke has a quasi metallic taste to me, Coke Zero is far less "fake")

Ditto.. I prefer CZ over DC these days.

 

[Standby]

Ditto.. I prefer CZ over DC these days.

Funny commenatry about likes and dislikes,we have a fridge in the office and sell about a dozen different types of drinks and soft drinks (to assist fund Xmas drinks).
Coke zero outsells the next best seller Coke by 2 to 1 then comes Diet coke at about 2/3 the rate of Coke then the rest of which Pepsi Max moves best of a slow bunch...and bottled water.
This is a floor of about 100 people so is pretty representative. Looks like QF are going down the right path

 

[drewbles]

Funny commenatry about likes and dislikes,we have a fridge in the office and sell about a dozen different types of drinks and soft drinks (to assist fund Xmas drinks).
Coke zero outsells the next best seller Coke by 2 to 1 then comes Diet coke at about 2/3 the rate of Coke then the rest of which Pepsi Max moves best of a slow bunch...and bottled water.
This is a floor of about 100 people so is pretty representative. Looks like QF are going down the right path

Interestingly enough, our vending machine 'dood' (that's actually his company name, go figure) hasn't figured out that the split of coke/coke zero/diet coke in our floor's vending machine is out of balance.

We have a coughpy old machine, 2 x Coke slots, 1 x Coke Zero and 1 x Diet Coke Slot. The machine regularly "runs out" of Coke Zero, whilst still having the Diet Coke all but full, and only one of the regular Coke slots gone. Unfortunately it seems to forget it's out and swallows our coins, but that's another story

It's rare that the Diet coke sells any until the Coke Zero runs out.

Detriment of the sugar industry? I'll happily drink it over regular coke with 8 teaspoons of sugar a can (and yes, I am aware of the research about diets and "diet" soft drinks, I drink it sparingly, but less sugar is a good thing when you're trying to reduce the waistline)

Sorry, going o/t again!

 

[markis10]

Drewbles,

I think your coke machine has worked out how to get revenue without providing anything in return, sounds pretty smart to me.

 

[pauly7]

Funny commenatry about likes and dislikes,we have a fridge in the office and sell about a dozen different types of drinks and soft drinks (to assist fund Xmas drinks).
Coke zero outsells the next best seller Coke by 2 to 1 then comes Diet coke at about 2/3 the rate of Coke then the rest of which Pepsi Max moves best of a slow bunch...and bottled water.
This is a floor of about 100 people so is pretty representative. Looks like QF are going down the right path

Lol thanks!

But for the national market Pepsi Max market share just past Diet Coke. Coke Zero is 3rd (in last place after Max and Diet in the no sugar cola wars)

 

[drewbles]

Drewbles,

I think your coke machine has worked out how to get revenue without providing anything in return, sounds pretty smart to me.

The "Vending Dood" hasn't figured out how to fix it more likely

Come running out, there are a few post it notes with "Machine owes xx_x $1.40" until someone notes it's out of a specific beverage, it swallows a few coins.

It's usually returned to us in $1.50 rather than the $1.40. We just have to wait a few weeks for when the refills happen.

 

[pauly7]

and the fact the sweeteners dont occur naturally in nature as far as their chemical compound goes scares the devil out of me in terms of long term effects of their use.

Sweetners are the most researched and studied food ingredient in the history of mankind. There is no credible research that illustrates any ill effect on long term use.

Of course everything in moderation applies and if you have to drink a soft drink replacing a full sugar with a no sugar then it will reduce your carb intake clearly. It's all about control and managing your diet.

 

[markis10]

Of course everything in moderation applies and if you have to drink a soft drink replacing a full sugar with a no sugar then it will reduce your carb intake clearly. It's all about control and managing your diet.

Its actually that sort of statement (lacking context) that was debunked by both the Purdue and Liverpool university tests of 2008/2009, its true if you have a drink with nothing else for 6 hours, but any other food stuff drunk within 2 hours will have more of its sugars absorbed by the body than had you drank water by comparison.

There is more to a diet than just carbs and this is born out by the study of 7500 soft drink consumers using diet drinks over 5 year by the University of Texas, one diet soft drink a day results in a 65 percent increase in the chance you are more likely to become overweight during the next seven to eight years.

I am not sure that one drink a day is in moderation.

Sweetners are the most researched and studied food ingredient in the history of mankind. There is no credible research that illustrates any ill effect on long term use.

You are right to say there has been no credible research that has been done long term, but if we have a look at what has been done there is already problems:

Coke Zero uses Acesulfame K which does contain the carcinogen, methylene chloride.

Coke Zero also uses Aspartame and to quote the the US Governments NIH website "Our study shows that Aspartame is a multi-potential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are evident even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg bw, much less than the current ADI for humans in Europe (40 mg/kg bw) and in the United States (50 mg/kg bw)."

First Experimental Demonstration of the Multipotential Carcinogenic Effects of Aspartame Administered in the Feed to Sprague-Dawley Rats

Qantas have given people another drinking choice - is it more healthier than others (excluding H20), I am not sure, and its an individual choice whether to consume it, but its not the "healthy choice" on the cart IMHO. I might add I do not have any shares/financial interest in any sugar or soft drink producer, I am still paying the price of having been a less educated consumer in the past when it came to processed food consumption, often as a time poor frequent traveler.

 

[drewbles]

Its actually that sort of statement (lacking context) that was debunked by both the Purdue and Liverpool university tests of 2008/2009, its true if you have a drink with nothing else for 6 hours, but any other food stuff drunk within 2 hours will have more of its sugars absorbed by the body than had you drank water by comparison.

There is more to a diet than just carbs and this is born out by the study of 7500 soft drink consumers using diet drinks over 5 year by the University of Texas, one diet soft drink a day results in a 65 percent increase in the chance you are more likely to become overweight during the next seven to eight years.

I am not sure that one drink a day is in moderation.



You are right to say there has been no credible research that has been done long term, but if we have a look at what has been done there is already problems:

Coke Zero uses Acesulfame K which does contain the carcinogen, methylene chloride.

Coke Zero also uses Aspartame and to quote the the US Governments NIH website "Our study shows that Aspartame is a multi-potential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are evident even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg bw, much less than the current ADI for humans in Europe (40 mg/kg bw) and in the United States (50 mg/kg bw)."

First Experimental Demonstration of the Multipotential Carcinogenic Effects of Aspartame Administered in the Feed to Sprague-Dawley Rats

Qantas have given people another drinking choice - is it more healthier than others (excluding H20), I am not sure, and its an individual choice whether to consume it, but its not the "healthy choice" on the cart IMHO. I might add I do not have any shares/financial interest in any sugar or soft drink producer, I am still paying the price of having been a less educated consumer in the past when it came to processed food consumption, often as a time poor frequent traveler.

This is why I love this board. There's always someone with a heap of knowledge in a niche you never expected. Interesting information

 

[markis10]

This is why I love this board. There's always someone with a heap of knowledge in a niche you never expected. Interesting information

Or someone who has recently been pointed in the right direction by a dietitian or three who seemed to have a common theme, so much for getting a second opinion .