Coke Zero coming to a QF domestic flight near you

[jad01]

re: Coke Zero is a diet no sugar cola....

Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of biochemistry would give this a miss, but sadly the wider population thinks that if it has DIET on the label it must be good.
Sugarless drinks contain artificial sweetners that impact on kidney and pancreas function.
The result is that it effects metabolism, more specificall insulin/sugar levels.
Food that you consume isnt processed as efficiently and so the remaining energy is stored.
It's been a long well known medical issue for some time, although no-one in the multi billion dollar soft drink market is likely to make you aware of this.
Ever wondered why larger people who dirnk lots of it are still large, if not larger.

Here's another one to steer clear of "ALL NATURAL"....fat, sugar, salt, cholesterol.....wow they're all natural so they must be good for you too.....NOT!

 

[NM]

I'll just stick with the Bundaberg Ginger Beer

 

[NYCguy]

Coke Zero uses Acesulfame K which does contain the carcinogen, methylene chloride.

Coke Zero also uses Aspartame and to quote the the US Governments NIH website "Our study shows that Aspartame is a multi-potential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are evident even at a daily dose of 20 mg/kg bw, much less than the current ADI for humans in Europe (40 mg/kg bw) and in the United States (50 mg/kg bw)."

First Experimental Demonstration of the Multipotential Carcinogenic Effects of Aspartame Administered in the Feed to Sprague-Dawley Rats

In one of these carcinogenicity studies (by the National Toxicology, rats were fed the equivalent to a human consuming 1,343 12-oz cans of artificially sweetened softdrink every day. There was no sign that these (or lower) levels of Acesulfame K increased the rats' risk of cancer or other neoplasms.

If you try to isolate yourself from every chemical known to cause harm to some organism, you're going to be living in a bubble high on the Antarctic Plateau, subsisting on distilled water.

I developed a taste for Coke Zero, in particular Coke Zero with Cherry. It's a fine drink. I think I'm much more likely to develop cancer from the 25 cigarettes I smoked every day for 15 years, than an artificial sweetener.

Besides, just because a chemical has mutagenic/caarcinogenic effects in one species, it doesn't mean it carries over to all mammals. Thalidomide sailed through animal testing, but proved to have rather... Unfortunate... Side-effects when given to gestating human females.

 

[NM]

My brother-in-law is a dentist and claims that Aspartame becomes Aspartic Acid which he claims is a major cause of tooth decay. He tells me every time he sees me drinking diet drinks.

 

[medhead]

I'm sorry but only the "real thing" "adds life".

One interesting statistic I found out in my current job. Drinking 1 100cal drink a day takes about 260 days off you life.

On carcinogenic things. I am totally not disputing any facts presented here but one thing I learnt doing my occupational hygiene course is that there are very little actual officially declared carcinogens. Does mean they can't suspect out things of being such but it just adds a level of uncertainty to whether it is really carcinogenic

 

[pauly7]

Its actually that sort of statement (lacking context) that was debunked by both the Purdue and Liverpool university tests of 2008/2009, its true if you have a drink with nothing else for 6 hours, but any other food stuff drunk within 2 hours will have more of its sugars absorbed by the body than had you drank water by comparison.

No one is saying its better than water. Nothing new here.

There is more to a diet than just carbs and this is born out by the study of 7500 soft drink consumers using diet drinks over 5 year by the University of Texas, one diet soft drink a day results in a 65 percent increase in the chance you are more likely to become overweight during the next seven to eight years.

If you can link without dispute cause and effect from this study - please do, because they can't. I'm not disputing the findings btw.

You are right to say there has been no credible research that has been done long term, but if we have a look at what has been done there is already problems:

Coke Zero uses Acesulfame K which does contain the carcinogen, methylene chloride.

There have been other posts on this - but again, there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever by any credible research paper, studies or tests that this causes any issues with humans

Qantas have given people another drinking choice - is it more healthier than others (excluding H20), I am not sure, and its an individual choice whether to consume it, but its not the "healthy choice" on the cart IMHO. I might add I do not have any shares/financial interest in any sugar or soft drink producer, I am still paying the price of having been a less educated consumer in the past when it came to processed food consumption, often as a time poor frequent traveler.

I think its great you are seeing nutritionists and dietitians - assuming you are overweight or have some allergy issues etc - I do agree that water is better than everything. I don't think anyone is saying they are 'healthy' but they are certainly 'better' for you than full sugar soft drinks.

Thats it from me on this - good luck with your diet Summer soon - time to shred up!!

 

[straitman]

Ditto.. I prefer CZ over DC these days.

Absolutely.

 

[straitman]

I'll just stick with the Bundaberg Ginger Beer

I prefer that other stuff from Bundaberg (preferably OP) but that is not a soft drink so it's OT which means I cannot talk about it here :!:

 

[medhead]

I prefer that other stuff from Bundaberg (preferably OP) but that is not a soft drink so it's OT which means I cannot talk about it here :!:

+1

Back in topic, well kind of about carcinogenic things. IIRC from my Occ hygiene course there are about a dozen confirmed carcinogens, such as asbestos. Most other things are suspected and probably highly suspected. So no 1 study doesn't make something a confirm carcinogen, but like all science the findings of one study are an indication just waiting for more studies to be confirmed. Obviously it takes a lot of evidence to confirm what is suspected.

 

[oz_mark]

Here I was, thinking having little cans of Coke Zero on board was a good thing. Then I read this thread :shock:


* as one who has previously suggested replacing DC with CZ, I do think it a good move.

 

[thewinchester]

I'll just stick with the Bundaberg Ginger Beer

I love the Bundaberg GB, but having CZ finally gives me a second option I actually like.

Thank you Q Catering gods, where does the sacrifice need to be delivered to?

 

[k_sheep]

I must be broken, I prefer the taste of diet coke over both CZ and coke original :shock:

re: Coke Zero is a diet no sugar cola....

Anyone with even the slightest knowledge of biochemistry would give this a miss, but sadly the wider population thinks that if it has DIET on the label it must be good.
Sugarless drinks contain artificial sweetners that impact on kidney and pancreas function.
The result is that it effects metabolism, more specificall insulin/sugar levels.
Food that you consume isnt processed as efficiently and so the remaining energy is stored.
It's been a long well known medical issue for some time, although no-one in the multi billion dollar soft drink market is likely to make you aware of this.
Ever wondered why larger people who dirnk lots of it are still large, if not larger.

Here's another one to steer clear of "ALL NATURAL"....fat, sugar, salt, cholesterol.....wow they're all natural so they must be good for you too.....NOT!

Citations please? I have a degree in biochem and have never come across anything to support those claims. Am happy to read up now I'm on holidays though

 

[markis10]

Citations please? I have a degree in biochem and have never come across anything to support those claims. Am happy to read up now I'm on holidays though

Diets High In Sodium And Artificially Sweetened Soda Linked To Kidney Function Decline

According to the research, consumption of more than two artificially sweetened drinks in a day multiplied the risk of decline in kidney function by two. On the other hand, no such negative effects were found of sugar sweetened drinks in the study.​

I think the fact some artificial sweetners have the same chemical as the primary agent in paint strippers is a cause for concern as well, even if it is far less present in terms of concentration.

 

[Hvr]

Now can we have Sprite Zero?

I hate that the only non-sugar option is Diet/Coke/Zero.

 

[RedNeckDrek]

I must be broken, I prefer the taste of diet coke over both CZ and coke original :shock:

You're not the only one- the number of people who like the taste of Diet Coke was reportedly one the reasons Coca-Cola took the New Coke gamble. (The urban legends reference site Snopes.com has a page on the topic.)