Confirmed upgrade then IROPs, what to expect.

[ChrisMars]

Hello,

Once an upgrade is confirmed, what happens if there is an IROPS, is the upgrade lost, or can it be maintained.

It is a general question, I am particularly interested in the case of AA domestic -> Qantas internatiinal (J upgrade) situation. Thanks all!

 

[offshore171]

It really depends, but I think in most cases they will be squeezing pax onto available replacement aircraft any which way. Upgrade may be cancelled and refunded.

What was the exact scenario?

 

[justinbrett]

From my experience it does stick, but if there’s no more seats in your upgraded class you will have to accept the downgrade if you need to travel the same day. I don’t think you could expect any compensation in this instance as you’d just get a refund.

However I understand if you are willing to extend your stay you can ask to be booked on the next available service, which could be days away.

The only time I’ve had a confirmed upgrade and needed rebooking there were seats and I was automatically moved to the new flight, so was no drama.

 

[muppet]

I think it depends on how firm your travel plans are. If you can wait, I’m sure in most cases the upgrade will be honoured. If you can’t and need to get to your destination - then you gotta take what you can get (and not get upset).

I had it recently with a crazy delayed MEL-SIN. Could have waited and waited staying in J but elected to travel on another carrier in Y. Was shocking experience, but the destination was more important than a flatbed for 7 hours.

 

[equus]

Once it is under airport control and IRROPS occurs, just about anything can happen. Many years ago there were 3 of us on 2 separate tix, one paid J and the other two of us successful upgrades to U travelling SYD-HKG. This was back when the 747 ruled the sky. One 747 went tech, and the bird we were supposed to be on to HKG was swapped for the JNB flight. A different 747 configuration was swapped onto HKG - one with less J seats. All 3 of use remained in J - and I know some paid J pax were either bumped or downgraded.

 

[ChrisMars]

Thanks, all! This is currently hypothetical, but I though I would ask here to know what to expect, in case. Short connection at LAX ahead. If I miss the flight, it s anyway for the next evening, and now I know I can push for a J on AA or QF on one of the the trans pacific flight (they all leave in the evening right?) if J is available on one of them. Otherwise Y.

Actually, is Y+ a negotiable option in those scenario?

 

[love_the_life]

Once it is under airport control and IRROPS occurs, just about anything can happen. Many years ago there were 3 of us on 2 separate tix, one paid J and the other two of us successful upgrades to U travelling SYD-HKG. This was back when the 747 ruled the sky. One 747 went tech, and the bird we were supposed to be on to HKG was swapped for the JNB flight. A different 747 configuration was swapped onto HKG - one with less J seats. All 3 of use remained in J - and I know some paid J pax were either bumped or downgraded.

I tell you, if I was a paid J and needed to fly I would have been very very displeased. I would have expected the upgrades to be removed before me.

 

[justinbrett]

Thanks, all! This is currently hypothetical, but I though I would ask here to know what to expect, in case. Short connection at LAX ahead. If I miss the flight, it s anyway for the next evening, and now I know I can push for a J on AA or QF on one of the the trans pacific flight (they all leave in the evening right?) if J is available on one of them. Otherwise Y.

Actually, is Y+ a negotiable option in those scenario?

How short of a connection? D to I is pretty safe these days at LAX thanks to the terminal connectors.

I think you’re more likely be rebooked onto another flight to another Australian city that day, if there are seats available, than booked on another day. Unless you’re on the last service of course.

I wouldn’t accept Y+ as you’d be paying a lot of points for much less value. I’d rather my points back and fly in Y if it came to it.

 

[offshore171]

Thanks, all! This is currently hypothetical, but I though I would ask here to know what to expect, in case. Short connection at LAX ahead. If I miss the flight, it s anyway for the next evening, and now I know I can p

Ok it sounds more like you are describing a misconnect scenario, rather than irrops?

Is there an earlier flight into LAX?

 

[madrooster]

If it's one ticket, and AA is late, then AA would rebook you in J for the transpacific. However, if everything is full, then you may need to downgrade in order to get home in a reasonable time.

 

[ChrisMars]

How short of a connection? D to I is pretty safe these days at LAX thanks to the terminal connectors.

1.5 hours, it s plenty of time, unless the D segment is 1h late, which happened a couple of days ago.

I think you’re more likely be rebooked onto another flight to another Australian city that day, if there are seats available, than booked on another day. Unless you’re on the last service of course.

I checked, I think that's the last service, or close.

I wouldn’t accept Y+ as you’d be paying a lot of points for much less value. I’d rather my points back and fly in Y if it came to it.

Ah yea good point (pun intended)

Ok it sounds more like you are describing a misconnect scenario, rather than irrops?

Is there an earlier flight into LAX?

Can't take an earlier. The IRROPS would cause the misconnect, it s probably ok to use that term to describe the scenario?