Conversion between Amex MR and Qantas QFF points ?

[Nizar]

What is the conversion rate exactly as of now ?
Seems to have changed a bit over the years.

And how often does this rate usually change lol.

I need to know what exactly 30/80k membership rewards points actually means lol.

And how about other programs ? Is the conversion higher (i.e., better) for say MH Enrich or Etihad or Asia Miles ?

Thanks.

 

[gregff]

For Amex issued cards:
QF 1:1 for Amex ascent premium (plat charge)
No recent changes
Other airlines are 1:1 (ascent and ascent premium) Virgin Aus and Atlantic, Asia Miles, Etihad, Malaysia, Singapore, Thai (Air New Zealand 100:1 for their airpoints)

 

[Cynicor]

Amex issued MR points in their Ascent scheme for credit and charge cards is 1:1 and has been for at least a decade. But you need ascent premium to be allowed to do it, which requires the Plat Charge.

 

[Nizar]

Thanks for your replies.

Does anybody know specifically what the conversion is for the David Jones Plainum credit card is ?

 

[equus]

Unless it is a Qantas Direct earn card (in which case the "conversion" question is not applicable), the only Amex MR points which can be transferred to QFF are those in Ascent Premium - for which you must have either a Platinum Charge Card or a Centurion. If all you have is a David Jones Amex Credit card, and it is earning Amex points, then you can't transfer them to QFF. So I guess the rate is 0.

 

[Gogo65]

David Jones QFF Amex is .75QFF/$1

 

[Nizar]

David Jones QFF Amex is .75QFF/$1

Correct. Found that out just moments ago.

Frequent Flyer - Earning Points - Pay - David Jones American Express Platinum Card

Do you know if the bonus sign-on offer is 30,000 QFF points or 30,000 MR points ?
On the above link it says 30,000 Qantas points so not very clear...

 

[Nizar]

Unless it is a Qantas Direct earn card (in which case the "conversion" question is not applicable), the only Amex MR points which can be transferred to QFF are those in Ascent Premium - for which you must have either a Platinum Charge Card or a Centurion. If all you have is a David Jones Amex Credit card, and it is earning Amex points, then you can't transfer them to QFF. So I guess the rate is 0.

Lol easy tiger I didn't say that was all I had.
It's just all that I am enquiring about on this thread.
The other Amex cards I have I either know the conversion rate or they are bank affiliated.

 

[equus]

I didn't say that was all I had.

Supplying more information will help getting you the answer you need.

Strictly speaking, the "conversion" rate from Amex MR points to QFF is 1 - as was oringally stated.

David Jones Rewards offers either DJ Rewards - which cannot be "converted" to QFF at all, or it offers direct earn at an earn rate of 0.75 (not strictly per dollar, but per weighted dollar according to the merchants etc.).

If you have an Ascent Premium (through Centurion or Platinum Charge), then some other cards (such as Reserve, Gold Charge) also then accrue into the Ascent Premium, and thus can be converted to QFF (at 1:1). I have no idea if the DJ Amex falls into this category - but I doubt it.

The sign-on bonus of 30,000 you are referring to is 30,000 DJ or 22,500 QFF.

 

[Nizar]

Supplying more information will help getting you the answer you need.

Strictly speaking, the "conversion" rate from Amex MR points to QFF is 1 - as was oringally stated.

David Jones Rewards offers either DJ Rewards - which cannot be "converted" to QFF at all, or it offers direct earn at an earn rate of 0.75 (not strictly per dollar, but per weighted dollar according to the merchants etc.).

If you have an Ascent Premium (through Centurion or Platinum Charge), then some other cards (such as Reserve, Gold Charge) also then accrue into the Ascent Premium, and thus can be converted to QFF (at 1:1). I have no idea if the DJ Amex falls into this category - but I doubt it.

The sign-on bonus of 30,000 you are referring to is 30,000 DJ or 22,500 QFF.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
So just to confirm what you said, the 80,000 bonus MR points on offer with this card will definately convert to 80,000 QFF points ?

https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/the-platinum-card/

 

[k3nnis]

Thanks for taking the time to clarify.
So just to confirm what you said, the 80,000 bonus MR points on offer with this card will definately convert to 80,000 QFF points ?

https://www.americanexpress.com/au/content/the-platinum-card/

Yep sure does.

 

[Jleno]

Yep sure does.

Which at $900 puts the points at 1.125 cents per point (without counting the free domestic flight and automatic Marco Polo Gold). Sounds like a good deal - the only question is whether those points are any use with QF given upgrades are based on luck rather than guaranteed (if you have no status)

 

[equus]

Yep sure does.

Indeed, but consider that it can also convert to 80,000 Asia Miles or 80,000 Krisflyer - both of which can have better burn rates.

80,000 Asia Miles can be use to redeem on QF as well (no ASAs though).

 

[Nizar]

Indeed, but consider that it can also convert to 80,000 Asia Miles or 80,000 Krisflyer - both of which can have better burn rates.

80,000 Asia Miles can be use to redeem on QF as well (no ASAs though).

Hi equus,

Yes you're correct. However I already have status and a few points with QF so looking to accumulate further for now.
However - KF looks good coz even just with that 80k points alone I could redeem one way MEL-SIN in a suite (~63k).

I'm not a fan of QF's poor redemption rates nor their upgrade issues (hard to find availability, no guarantees, etc). I just feel like I'm already committed so to speak so will likely stick to them for now.

 

[equus]

However, the beauty of the Ascent Premium is that you don't need to commit when you are earning. You can warehouse the points with Amex, then transfer them to your choice of program when you have something to redeem.

By all means focus on QF an status there, but if you keep the points with Amex until you actually need to redeem, then you can transfer to Kris instead if you decide that the opportunity for a Suites jaunt is too good to resist.

 

[orin]

Would definitely recommend you go for Asia Miles.

It, J to HK is 40k Asiamile, it is 60k on Qantas. Asiamiles you will find much better availability. Suitable for flying to the states and East Asia.

For Europe and SE Asia, go with Kris.

Both these options are better than QFF.

 

[Nizar]

Would definitely recommend you go for Asia Miles.

It, J to HK is 40k Asiamile, it is 60k on Qantas. Asiamiles you will find much better availability. Suitable for flying to the states and East Asia.

For Europe and SE Asia, go with Kris.

Both these options are better than QFF.

Thanks for your thoughts. And yes generally I agree. I've heard about the great availability on CX especially to the US c.f. QF.
Also liking those $3k NRT-HKG-JFK return J flights which they have on sale at the moment.

What are your (or anyone else's) thoughts on EY or MH ?

EY I like how the cash component for redemptions is so damn low, as low as $7, though I have seen a surcharge of $140 on some fares too.
Also like how you earn Miles on upgrades (i.e., upgrade from Y to J, earn J miles).
Also liking how they are currently offering a Status match.

MH I like how the redemption rates are so low.
MEL-KUL-LHR return in J is like 120k.

Any other pros/cons/thoughts on how the different airlines compare ?

Thanks any comments are appreciated.

 

[DaveB]

Would definitely keep your options open wherever possible and pool for as long as possible. Apart from where you intend to fly next, who can say how future availability to each of the airlines FF programs will be and what IT system they may be trying to implement. Family members have flown with CX, QF, VA & DL the past 12 months with DL a firm back of the class and the rest all great. Looking forward to EY this Sunday.
With plenty of points with SQ following the recent Citi scare, recently tried to book a trip to Singapore and Koh Samui for new years and ended up with cheap QF JASA's as no suitable seats with SQ. Go figure. SQ were handy though for some J seats for the Silk Air flights.

 

[dragoman]

Amex issued MR points in their Ascent scheme for credit and charge cards is 1:1 and has been for at least a decade. But you need ascent premium to be allowed to do it, which requires the Plat Charge.

I've had Amex Platinum Charge and Amex Platinum Reserve cards for a few years. About to cancel the charge card because of the recent fee increase, I called to check that my existing MR points were linked to both cards, so that my points could still be transferred. She confirmed that they were, so OK so far.

Then I said that I did understand, of course, that I would no longer be able to transfer points to QF when I was left with only the AP Reserve card.

But she said, O no, you can still do that because these points are in the top tier of the MR programme. I said that doesn't seem to tally with what I read on the Amex site. She put me on hold, came back and confirmed that I would still be able to transfer them to QF, notwithstanding that I no longer had the AP charge card.

Does this mean that my current points are in some way quarantined within the ascent premium programme? I was going to transfer half my points to QF before cancelling the charge card. But based on what I've just been told maybe I can risk leaving them all as MR points, linked only to my continuing Reserve card, and still transfer to QF when I need to....

 

[fersea]

Not sure. Of course at the moment any transfer to QFF also gets a 15% bonus.