Coronavirus (COVID-19) Respiratory illness - Effect on Travel

[jakeseven7]

US airlines in a hole.

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And although Uber rides are down Uber eats is flying.
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A lot of people in Australia boycott Uber Eats due to the exorbitant fees they charge the local restaurant. I know I’m picking up takeaway myself to avoid the restaurant being slugged 30% of my order which is basically their profit margin gone. Deliveroo, Foodora, DoorDash all the same.

 

[drron]

I never use a delivery service and always pick up take away myself.
unfortunately the great majority really don't think about it and go for convenience.

 

[jakeseven7]

I never use a delivery service and always pick up take away myself.
unfortunately the great majority really don't think about it and go for convenience.

Huge co-ordinated backlash in Melbourne especially going on which is heartening.

 

[drron]

More effects on travel.Swissport needing a bail out.in the process probably getting rid of HNA.

Lenders In A Process Of Taking Over Swissport

Swissport may soon have a new owner.

loyaltylobby.com

And in Thailand the Government doesn't expect general tourism to return this year.
The ban on regular air traffic will remain indefinitely.

Thailand Flight Ban On Regular Incoming Passengers To Remain Indefinitely As Per CAAT Director

Thailand to remain closed indefinitely to most incoming traffic.

loyaltylobby.com

 

[Pushka]

One scary impact. I'm flying Jetstar to Cairns on Monday and I'm excited!

 

[drron]

Google trying to expand without cost during pandemic.

Inside Google's feud with the battered online travel industry

Google has been locked in a debate for weeks with the likes of GetYourGuide, Trivago and HomeToGo over unpaid advertising bills.

www.cnbc.com

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Planes,ships and theme parks all feeling the strain.

The Great Travel Depression? Hotels, Cruise Lines, Airlines Prepare To Open Q2 Books

For much of the first half of this year, consumers stuck at home as the coronavirus circled the globe. Many people only dreamed of taking off to faraway lands or cruising across oceans and seas to exotic locales, while the industry that provided those services saw its own dreams turn into nightmares

www.forbes.com

And Accor might be considering merging with IHG.

Could Accor & IHG Merge, Form World's Largest Hotel Group?

It's being reported that Accor is interested in merging with InterContinental Hotels Group. What could a combined hotel group look like?

onemileatatime.com

HOTELSMag.com

HOTELSMag.com is the online home of HOTELS magazine and gives daily news coverage of the global hotel industry.

www.hotelsmag.com

 

[p--and--t]

Singapore easing some rules for Aussies

Singapore Slightly Relaxes Border Control Effective September 1, 2020

Singapore is slightly loosening the arrival ban on September 1, 2020.

loyaltylobby.com

 

[p--and--t]

Who would have thought just 5 months ago...BNE-CNS is currently the busiest air route in Australia according to an article in Cairns Post.

 

[drron]

Worldwide tourism is in a hole.Not good news for Australia as it is one of the economies most reliant on tourism.
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Massive reduction in tourism receipts.
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And the longer lockdowns go the worse the loss.

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[VPS]

That's very interesting. I didn't realise Mexico relied on tourism to that extent

 

[Must...Fly!]

What proportion of that 10.8% would be domestic tourism being needlessly hobbled by insane domestic travel restrictions, I wonder.

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That's very interesting. I didn't realise Mexico relied on tourism to that extent

Lots of American and European tourists. British have gathered a big taste for the "all inclusive" resorts in Mexico.

 

[dajop]

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And that graph probably understates the reduction, as during January there were very few travel restrictions, and even for most of February. I visited Dubai during January and Bali during February (and was a VFR arrival in Australia late February as well). Do the same graph for Mar-Jul I supect Asia Pacific tourist international arrivals would be down 95% compared to same period last year, less so in Europe and the Americas I guess.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

That's very interesting. I didn't realise Mexico relied on tourism to that extent

Mainly from the nearby USA and Canada.

The below table is visitors arriving by air. And the USA has a land border and so many more tourists can just drive in to Mexico.

 

[drron]

US pilots not in a good space though AA and Spirit have cut deals with their pilots.
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Infographic: Thousands Of U.S. Pilots Face Furloughs This Fall

This chart shows the number of pilots warned they could be furloughed in October.

www.statista.com

Certainly hope this is not related.

United Airlines Executive Still Missing, One Year Later

United Airlines executive Jake Cefolia has been missing for one year. Here's the latest we know about this mysterious situation.

onemileatatime.com

 

[teammongo]

Looks like you might have to hold it in for your next flight..

Asymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 on Evacuation Flight

An evacuation flight from Milan to South Korea. All patients had a medical history recorded and symptomatic patients weren't let on board. A COVID swab was performed day 1 post flight. N95 masks were worn prior and during the flight. All passengers were isolated for 14 day after arrival.

A 28 year old female who tested negative on day 1, tested positive following 14 days of quarantine. She took off her mask in the toilet she shared with a asymptomic passenger who subsequently tested positive following the boarding swab.

So either surface contact, or enclosed space with poor ventilation... (or maybe a false initial negative)


Figure. Cohort study of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission on evacuation flight from Milan, Italy, to Incheon, South Korea, on March 31, 2020. Red indicates asymptomatic patients who tested positive on quarantine day 1 (April 1, 2020); blue indicates asymptomatic patient who tested positive on quarantine day 14 (April 15, 2020). A) Timeline of flight, passenger quarantine, and testing protocol. B) Location of 6 asymptomatic patients and subsequently infected patient on flight. C) Case report of patient apparently infected during evacuation flight.

TM

 

[exceladdict]

Looks like you might have to hold it in for your next flight..

Asymptomatic Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 on Evacuation Flight

An evacuation flight from Milan to South Korea. All patients had a medical history and symptomatic patients weren't let on board. A COVID swab was performed day 1 post flight. N95 masks were worn prior and during the flight. All passengers were isolated for 14 day after arrival.

A 28 year old female who tested negative on day 1, tested positive following 14 days of quarantine. She took off her mask in the toilet she shared with a asymptomic passenger who subsequently tested positive following the boarding swab.

So either surface contact, or enclosed space with poor ventilation... (or maybe a false initial negative)

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Figure. Cohort study of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) transmission on evacuation flight from Milan, Italy, to Incheon, South Korea, on March 31, 2020. Red indicates asymptomatic patients who tested positive on quarantine day 1 (April 1, 2020); blue indicates asymptomatic patient who tested positive on quarantine day 14 (April 15, 2020). A) Timeline of flight, passenger quarantine, and testing protocol. B) Location of 6 asymptomatic patients and subsequently infected patient on flight. C) Case report of patient apparently infected during evacuation flight.

TM

While this is unfortunate, it is also somewhat encouraging that with six asymptomatic travellers that could possibly have been infectious during the flight, only one person subsequently tested positive. On such a long flight, hard to avoid using the bathroom as you say, but it does suggest masks go a long way to mitigating spread?

( I am not a doctor or scientist nor interested in arguing on the internet, but perhaps foreseeing that masks will be a part of travel for some time).

 

[dajop]

On such a long flight, hard to avoid using the bathroom as you say,

It's funny you mention this, I always visit the toilets* on flights over 5 hrs. On my flight back from MEL-SIN earlier this month, first time ever on this sector - which I (used to) fly a lot - that I didn't visit the toilets. Didn't even feel like I even needed to during the flight, I wasn't conciously holding it in, but as soon as I started walking through the terminal, made a beeline for the toilets, amazing the power of the subconcious!

* To use Australian english, I dislike the Americanisation of our language- no shower- it's not a bathroom

 

[drron]

Travel writers from the USA are an optimistic lot.I used to read this fellows blog before I knew AFF.

This Is How 2020 Became A Lost Year For Travel

As the COVID pandemic stretches into the fall, one thing is becoming clear: 2020 is turning into a lost year for travel. Here's what it means for you.

www.forbes.com

If 2021 Becomes The Year Of Travel, This Is What Will Happen

If 2020 is the lost year for travel, will 2021 be the year of recovery? And if it is, what does that mean for you? Here's what you need to know about traveling in 2021, which could become the year of travel.

www.forbes.com

 

[VPS]

Travel writers from the USA are an optimistic lot.I used to read this fellows blog before I knew AFF.

This Is How 2020 Became A Lost Year For Travel

As the COVID pandemic stretches into the fall, one thing is becoming clear: 2020 is turning into a lost year for travel. Here's what it means for you.

www.forbes.com

If 2021 Becomes The Year Of Travel, This Is What Will Happen

If 2020 is the lost year for travel, will 2021 be the year of recovery? And if it is, what does that mean for you? Here's what you need to know about traveling in 2021, which could become the year of travel.

www.forbes.com

I'm finding Americans as a whole are enthusiastic (?delusional) when it comes to travel opening up again. Still seeing posts on the Seabourn FB group asking if they think November med cruises will go ahead

 

[mrs.dr.ron]

I would say delusional is closer to the mark !!