Cpap in theQantas A380 first class

[creeno]

Without wanting to hijack wayne bourke's thread, just wondering if anyone has any experience with Emirates Y class and these machines. Are there any powerpoints in the Y section that could be utilised? Mum's looking at purchasing the S9, so this is all rather topical right now.

Thanks in advance....

 

[Dyslexic traveler]

Hi creeno this was copied from the Emirates and no probs re hijacking that's what the thread is for asking questions so feel free to hijack away
CPAP and PAP devices for sleep apnea
CPAP (Continuous Positive Airway Pressure) and PAP (Positive Airway Pressure) sleep apnea devices are not permitted to be used onboard Emirates flights. However they may be carried as checked baggage provided they conform to the IATA dangerous goods regulations, particularly with regards to batteries.

I will not be flying with Emirates as if I do not use the S8 every one on the plane will be kept awake with my snoring

 

[sinophile888]

Wayne,
I have just heard back from a TA friend regarding using a CPAP machine with its own battery pack on Emirates.
The TA's reply from Emirates was that if it is a dry cell battery it should be ok, but it will need approval from Special Handling (MEL Call Centre). Do you have a small battery? I bought one a while back from America which is perfect for travelling.
It would be a pity to remove Emirates as an option unnecessarily.

 

[Mrmaxwell]

How does one flying in Y on QF use one of these devices?

Just curious...

 

[Dyslexic traveler]

Hi Mrmaxwell somehow I think it may be a little hard in Y, but on the A380 you can in Y, but not in F so see there are some good things about flying Y

 

[NM]

How does one flying in Y on QF use one of these devices?

Just curious...

You contact Qantas at least a few days before the flight. Qantas Engineering will arrange for power to be available at your seat. Note they will arrange for you to be sitting in a seat to which they can arrange power to be available.

While the in-seat power (that is designed for laptop power) may be able to operate such devices, it is not considered a reliable power source for the task. I expect Qantas could possibly be considered legally liable if they suggested to passengers that they should use the in-seat power for such medical equipment and there was a subsequent issue with the reliability/availability of the in-seat power source during the flight.

 

[Dyslexic traveler]

Thanks NM it's not getting power to a spot, Qantas cannot offer power in first on the A380 if I fly 747 it's no problem, all I can do is fly the A380 with a battery or change my flight to the 747, they are quite specific about not having power for any cpap in F, as I have said if I want to fly in a A380 with a cpap on their power it will be in J and I pay full fare to be in first, anyhow it's all good thank you again for all your help with this it's great to have lots of input.

 

[moa999]

From reading all of the above it seems it is less about CPAP power in First, it is more about reliable power
and QF being worried about liablit for attaching medical devices - quite different to attaching a laptop

 

[cove]

It is just a miss by the designers.
It is very expensive to fix.

 

[straitman]

It is just a miss by the designers.
It is very expensive to fix.

One must hope that the issue has been resolved for future deliveries. There would be no real excuse for not fixing the issue as it would have absolutely no impact upon certification.

Aircraft already delivered would have to wait for an appropriate major servicing to come along.

 

[kiwial]

Hi Wayne

.....When you said they moved you was that in first, and could you rum an extension cord from that point ? .....BA is also happy for me to plug in to their universal point on my way to London but that's not the 380

I was in the second cabin in business on the upper deck of the 380 and was moved to the first row in the front J cabin. The power outlet is located in the bulkhead in front of 11J/11K. Not sure if the A/B seats in this row also have "mains" power.

I cannot attest to the comfort of the F seats when it comes to sleeping on one. Certainly the F seats in the 380 are excellent (have had 1A and 2K on daylight trips between SYD and SIN) - a BA 777 or 744 won't beat the 380 experience.

However, the new J seats are a big improvement over those in the 744's and 332/3's with the ability to lie flat. Sure you don't get the F service (and I must say the degustation meal was great) however, I get a much better nights sleep in the newer seats.

All up a pretty poor effort on QF's part not having a mains outlet in F on the 380 and not allowing use of laptop outlets/ensuring they can handle CPAP's.

Good luck with getting the battery pack - may need to investigate this option too, or fly more with NZ, BA, CX etc, although I'm not a huge fan of the CX "herringbone" J product - a little too "squeezy"!

 

[Paddy55]

kiwial

Thanks for the heads up on 11jk - travelling on the QF A380 in a little while and I'll call tomorrow requesting a seat change

Paddy

 

[medhead]

I had a similar issue with Jetstar starclass, A330. Again the power issue was raised, with I submitted the request to qantas. I find this strange but understandable. The device I have comes with a 90W power brick (obviously that only indicates the max power drawn), which is required for power both the CPAP and the humidifier. There is a light weight 40 or 60 W power brick for only powering the CPAP. So it was strange to be told no for the CPAP but I can power my laptop with it's higher power requirement. Of course I understand the issue of reliable power. But still it is better for me to sleep using the device for only a limited time than to not use it at all. Maybe qantas/jetstar doesn't want to pay to replace any CPAPs if the power supply stuffs them up.

 

[cove]

The battery packs mentioned by Wayne really seem to be the answer provided you dont run the humidifier.The humidifier will run the battery pack down too quickly.
I plan to buy one in the US before my return on the A380.The 747 just runs a cord to seat 4A.

 

[medhead]

the problem I have with a battery pack is that I'm trying to be carry on only. a battery is another 1 or 2 kgs, sure it shouldn't count for allowance, but I got to fit it in and carry it.

But might have to check it out.

 

[cove]

Your CPAP machine does not count as a carry on bag so you should be ok.

 

[Dyslexic traveler]

O.K to all you whom have been looking at this post, I have an update. I left SYD yesterday on BA16 a 777 in F and had the Resmed Cpap S8 unit with humidifier on the SYD SIN; I did not set it up and only did so on the SIN, LHR. The cabin Crew gave me the power adaptor (not a multipoint as I was informed before I left but the older style cigarette type plug in) I plugged it in toped up the Humidifier and it started to work, about 5 minutes after it started it stopped, and the green light on the plane point went yellow not a good sign, I disconnected the unit and re plugged it in, again start then stop. So as a last resort I plugged it in with the humidifier off, and away it went so it obviously draws too much with the humidifier on, it worked all through the night 8 hr good sleep, I packed it before landing and all was well I did leave the humidifier attached ( not on) and that did help with the Air not being to dry
I am now sitting in one of the Concord room cabanas in T5 waiting for my onward trip to Paris.
I will let you know how it all works from here have a great weekend to all

Wayne

 

[medhead]

Your CPAP machine does not count as a carry on bag so you should be ok.

I assume your replying to my post. If I'm wrong sorry.

The issue I have is carrying the weight not baggage limits.

 

[cove]

Really?:Throat Exercises Can Relieve Sleep Apnea according to New york Times 9th most popular article.It recommends throat exercises and doing work on reducing our neck size.
Now Medhead what is in your carry on? Do you travel American style and check in nothing?

 

[medhead]

Really?:Throat Exercises Can Relieve Sleep Apnea according to New york Times 9th most popular article.It recommends throat exercises and doing work on reducing our neck size.
Now Medhead what is in your carry on? Do you travel American style and check in nothing?

Yes, I check in nothing. I have a 105cm bag with 1 pair of trousers, 3 shirts and one set of casual clothes and thongs, jacket and smalls. In the other bag (85cm) I have the CPAP (about 3 kg I guess), a 2kg laptop, a couple of USB drives, headphones, laptop powerpack and a limited amount of work stuff, and a newspaper

so not american style, no kitchen sink.

Unless these throat exercises can alter my genetics, they aren't going to help me.