Dead Status Credits

[sutho58]

So I'm going to re-qualify for WP about 10 weeks before the cutoff date, which is in no small part due to the fact that I hassle our finance and travel people to get me flying QF on domestic, rather than going cheapest available. In the current economic climate, this is a bit of a battle.

But (lifetime status aside) any extra SC's I get in the next ten weeks don't matter to me... they won't get me up to P1, not even close, and they disappear completely at my yearly renewal and I start all over again.

a lot of this sounds like "me, me' me" it's fine to have the company pay for QF flights when it suits "your" terms, but now that "you" don't really benefit from extra sc's your happy to become a company man and fly the cheapest or try and get va to give you status without actually earning it. If your such a company man now, why not spend next year flying the cheapest seats and then come back and tell us how you got along??

 

[Moopere]

a lot of this sounds like "me, me' me" it's fine to have the company pay for QF flights when it suits "your" terms, but now that "you" don't really benefit from extra sc's your happy to become a company man and fly the cheapest or try and get va to give you status without actually earning it. If your such a company man now, why not spend next year flying the cheapest seats and then come back and tell us how you got along??

Ouch!

Are not many, or even most of us here trying to leverage points/ff programs/etc to the maximum possible degree?

In my case, inside of corporate policy, which I trust the PA's in my firm will adhere to, I don't see anything wrong with making my flight to flight preferences clear. Someone has to make a decision on these things ... why shouldn't it be me? Again, assuming I'm not doing anything against the law or corporate direction.

 

[freepyjamas]

So I'm going to re-qualify for WP about 10 weeks before the cutoff date, which is in no small part due to the fact that I hassle our finance and travel people to get me flying QF on domestic, rather than going cheapest available. In the current economic climate, this is a bit of a battle.

But (lifetime status aside) any extra SC's I get in the next ten weeks don't matter to me... they won't get me up to P1, not even close, and they disappear completely at my yearly renewal and I start all over again.

a lot of this sounds like "me, me' me" it's fine to have the company pay for QF flights when it suits "your" terms, but now that "you" don't really benefit from extra sc's your happy to become a company man and fly the cheapest or try and get va to give you status without actually earning it. If your such a company man now, why not spend next year flying the cheapest seats and then come back and tell us how you got along??

You're right in one respect. It is mostly about "me, me, me".

As part of my job, my company requires me to fly MEL-SYD all the bloody time. As anyone who's done this knows, it gets pretty old pretty quickly. What makes it more palatable for me is the benefits status provides, so my company is prepared to wear a higher travel budget to keep me happy. It's something that I want, and it's something the company wants me to have. To keep me happy, and stop me coughing about getting up at 5am to fly to Sydney and getting home after the kids are in bed.

The fact that the next 10 weeks of travel don't count at all towards the goal of maintaining Plat status led me to question whether I should cut the finance guys a break, and let them stick me on the cheapest flights they can find.

So yes, I agree with that part of your post. The rest of it seems little more than a snarky and aggressive sneer, so I won't bother addressing that.

 

[sutho58]

ah Moopere,,, quote taken out of context I think....
free pyjamas says that he convinced the company that it was best for him to fly qf whilst he tried to qualify for plat.. now that that has happened and he sees no advantage to continuing to fly qf, he might just do the right thing and take the cheapest flight path.. as I stated.. sounds a bit like me me me...

 

[JohnK]

Just making the point that if SC's I accrued in the last couple of months rolled over, I could continue to justify my QF insistence. Just feels like an odd anomaly in the system that's all.

But where would additional SCs end?

Hypothetically being able to bring a reassessment date forward could be a good idea if all you were interested in achieving was a specific status. So in your example if you achieved Platinum at month 10 then you could theoretically start your new year straight away.

On the other hand if you achieved your goal of Platinum at month 10 and started accumulating SCs for next year then you may be able to get Platinum for next year at month 8.

And then next year after month 8 you start accumulating SCs for the year after and then you reach your goal of Platinum for the year after at month 6.

And then you may get into the situation where in 2016 you are accumulating SCs for status year 2018 and so on. Yes I know a little far fetched but it can get very confusing.

For all the things Qantas does wrong I actually like the current system of SCs and re-qualification. And if I happen to have status with Qantas then I want to make full use of that status.

 

[sutho58]

freepyjamas... not snarky at all... just that reading your posts,, you have gone from qualifying for plat was an advantage,, now that sc's don't count for anything other then ltg you think it's time to cut the company some slack.. why not cut qf some slack for the perks afforded for plat??

 

[TonyHancock]

If I were in the OP's position I would be taking advantage of the benefits of WP status and continue with QF.

MY own position is not that dissimilar, with almost two months to go I'm in a dead area. Already LTG can't earn any more loyalty bonuses, and I am also a plat with DJ. I'm continuing my QF/OW international travel for points accrual and to take advantage of status. (QF has been good to me of late.) Domestically I'm continuing with DJ - points accrual and I like the service.

 

[medhead]

freepyjamas... not snarky at all... just that reading your posts,, you have gone from qualifying for plat was an advantage,, now that sc's don't count for anything other then ltg you think it's time to cut the company some slack.. why not cut qf some slack for the perks afforded for plat??

Or perhaps by not flying Qantas and using those benefits he would be cutting Qantas some slack. :?:

You're right in one respect. It is mostly about "me, me, me".

As part of my job, my company requires me to fly MEL-SYD all the bloody time. As anyone who's done this knows, it gets pretty old pretty quickly. What makes it more palatable for me is the benefits status provides, so my company is prepared to wear a higher travel budget to keep me happy. It's something that I want, and it's something the company wants me to have. To keep me happy, and stop me coughing about getting up at 5am to fly to Sydney and getting home after the kids are in bed.

The fact that the next 10 weeks of travel don't count at all towards the goal of maintaining Plat status led me to question whether I should cut the finance guys a break, and let them stick me on the cheapest flights they can find.

So yes, I agree with that part of your post. The rest of it seems little more than a snarky and aggressive sneer, so I won't bother addressing that.

Many people have already touched on this and I think you agreed with the view. But if the company is paying more for your travel to keep you happy, I think 10 weeks not being "happy and comfortable" is going to send the wrong message to the company. Surely they must rightly question your need to fly qantas to be happy and comfortable - "look he flew with whoever for 10 weeks, he mustn't need qantas then." Massive risk IMO.

 

[yohy?!]

If I were in the OP's position I would be taking advantage of the benefits of WP status and continue with QF.

MY own position is not that dissimilar, with almost two months to go I'm in a dead area. Already LTG can't earn any more loyalty bonuses, and I am also a plat with DJ. I'm continuing my QF/OW international travel for points accrual and to take advantage of status. (QF has been good to me of late.) Domestically I'm continuing with DJ - points accrual and I like the service.

What no Star* Status?

 

[YQY]

As part of my job, my company requires me to fly MEL-SYD all the bloody time. As anyone who's done this knows, it gets pretty old pretty quickly. What makes it more palatable for me is the benefits status provides, so my company is prepared to wear a higher travel budget to keep me happy. It's something that I want, and it's something the company wants me to have. To keep me happy, and stop me coughing about getting up at 5am to fly to Sydney and getting home after the kids are in bed.

I'm with you freepyjamas, I have been doing the opposite commute for the last 5 years and the thrill of weekly travel has worn out. Furthermore, being away from home causes a whole lot of issues, especially when your kids are under 7. For the first two years (when i did fly out sunday/pm monday am and back on friday pm) i missed most parent teacher interviews, concerts, doctor appointments etc - this caused a huge strain on the family and i was missing best part of my kids childhood. You can always get status back but you can't get back the time you don't spend with your kids and family.

So i did a deal with my company, that I would only travel during business hours (ie away from monday pm and return on thursday pm) and that i would be able to work from home on Monday and Fridays. I also ensured that i would get the flexible tickets (K class) so that i could head leave later and home earlier if desired. Getting status was a secondary factor.

Status is nice to have when you do the weekly grind, the food and drink in the J lounge is better and i got a decent number of op-ups. Status is also good when i travel with the family, and my family and i love to travel together. Therefore if you have status with QF and you need to travel, do it with QF, it's no point traveling with another airline if you are on the bottom rung....

 

[TonyHancock]

What no Star* Status?

I don't and I think I'm going to live to regret it.

 

[serfty]

I don't and I think I'm going to live to regret it.

There are relatively "easy" ways to get *A status, but with your employer's recent reduction in travel parameters it would make it much harder.

 

[footyguy]

So I'm going to re-qualify for WP about 10 weeks before the cutoff date, which is in no small part due to the fact that I hassle our finance and travel people to get me flying QF on domestic, rather than going cheapest available. In the current economic climate, this is a bit of a battle.

But (lifetime status aside) any extra SC's I get in the next ten weeks don't matter to me... they won't get me up to P1, not even close, and they disappear completely at my yearly renewal and I start all over again.

So for the next 10 weeks, I'm letting my travel people adopt a cheapest-fare approach. Which will obviously mean a bit of travel with the other guys.

But if the SC's I earn in the next ten weeks carried over into my new year, I'd definitely stick with QF in a bid to maintain next year's status. I guess they reset the clock for a good reason, but it just seems a pity that I don't really have a lot of incentive over the next 10 weeks to fly QF.

It would be crazy of Qantas to roll over the Status Credits.
As some members on here would already have Plat status for the next 10yrs!
If Qantas DID roll over the status credits, it would have to change the whole costing model for Status Credits.

Also, at what level would you roll them over??
I am only going to reach silver, so could i choose to roll them over after i hit silver?
You want them to roll over at Plat, but why not P1?

 

[AirKat]

I found myself in this position this year going about 400 sc's past WP1 and well over the 4 bonus point earns. But I really like qantas, enjoy the service and benefits they give me, and with all we're hearing at the moment, I want to support them more than ever... I think most of us have to make a little effort to get around BFOD policies designed for once a year travellers these days