DJ Dream Pack - new to domestic premium

[lovestotravel]

The pack looks great, but is really a waste of space/materials/$$ if it's given on all J flights on Virgin.

I assume they will only be given on "long-haul" J flights ????

 

[samiam]

I was pondering the same. I guessed at a couple of ideas. Maybe they can be used to compartmentise the cabin to impede the dispersion of gases and shock wave.

My guess is they are used to:

1) cover up blown up body parts, or;
2) create makeshift screens to shield eyes from blown up body parts
３）mop up blown up body parts

 

[yohy?!]

Qantas already offers a more premium offering to this. In domestic J, they have international J pillows and blankets. Y passengers also have pillows and blankets available to them, same as those seen on international services.

Ear plugs are available to all passengers on request, and in J on 'red-eye' services from Perth an amenities pack is offered with eye-shades, toothbrush/paste, and socks also available.

The difference between asking and being offered is a big one.

 

[albatross710]

Most routes, ie Sydney Melbourne are in excess of $500 one way, and the Perth to East Coast flights are in excess of $1300 one way.

I was looking at some flights BNE-PER for travel in March. $2,000 each way in J. Makes flights to Europe look cheap.

Alby

 

[medhead]

My guess is they are used to:

1) cover up blown up body parts, or;
2) create makeshift screens to shield eyes from blown up body parts
３）mop up blown up body parts

Not sure how secret those uses would be, but all possible. And things I didn't thing about

Along those lines there are theobvious medical applications for any survivors.

 

[oz_mark]

What is interesting to note here is that this amenity kit gesture is viewed as DJ offering a novel benefit / improvement.

Had the same thing been reported for QF, it would be branded as a token insult.

Good on DJ for providing these (I suspect there will be a few members soon who will have a collection). But I'm not going to lose or gain sleep over a domestic amenity kit or the loss of a small mouthful of side salad.

Now if those amenity kits matched VA's international standard and/or they were offered to all pax on the PER red-eye flights, then we would have a good cause for discussion...

I am not sure why you are coming across as so negative about this. It has been widely reported that DJ were going to be raising their service levels, and many comments from folk on this board suggesting that they get on with it. So, it seems reasonable that any sign of that improvement would be discussed on this board - it is a tangible sign that they are rolling some improvements out.

 

[anat0l]

I am not sure why you are coming across as so negative about this. It has been widely reported that DJ were going to be raising their service levels, and many comments from folk on this board suggesting that they get on with it. So, it seems reasonable that any sign of that improvement would be discussed on this board - it is a tangible sign that they are rolling some improvements out.

I agree that it is to be expected that DJ are raising their service levels. They can't really go downhill can they (i.e. barring some sort of accident, it can't happen).

However, this amenity kit "improvement" is not something I would call tangible. We know the real improvements are coming; this is just superficial and nothing to write home about. Indeed, a couple of posters have dubbed this improvement as dubious at best.

The only thing that gets me is that if QF gave out these kinds of amenity kits again on flights, people would not react to that as a benefit, but rather QF dishing out the same boring useless amenity kit. The point I'm making here is that this mere simple amenity kit means nothing in terms of real improvement on domestic services, whether it be on QF or DJ. We've seen them before, in and out of the mainline service, it's nothing novel or fantastic.

Now if that all comes across to you as negative, well I can't help you with that, sorry. Personally I'm still holding out for DJ to act and treat people more professionally, which with new product, new livery and new image will eventually come out.

 

[oz_mark]

I agree that it is to be expected that DJ are raising their service levels. They can't really go downhill can they (i.e. barring some sort of accident, it can't happen).

I take it then, that you would regard their service to be on level with that of say Tiger. I would place them somewhere in between Jetstar and Qantas in terms of service levels. To be fair, I would say that they are closer to Jetstar than they are to Qantas.

However, this amenity kit "improvement" is not something I would call tangible. We know the real improvements are coming; this is just superficial and nothing to write home about. Indeed, a couple of posters have dubbed this improvement as dubious at best.

It is something that DJ have not done before, and it does give some pointers that they are heading in a particular direction. Until they formally announce what the new product is going to be, then we only have things such as this to go on. It does show that things are happening.

The real improvements will take time to roll out - and this gives us some comfort that it is more than just talk.

The only thing that gets me is that if QF gave out these kinds of amenity kits again on flights, people would not react to that as a benefit, but rather QF dishing out the same boring useless amenity kit. The point I'm making here is that this mere simple amenity kit means nothing in terms of real improvement on domestic services, whether it be on QF or DJ. We've seen them before, in and out of the mainline service, it's nothing novel or fantastic.

It does give us some reason to believe that DJ is breaking away from its LCC roots. Something which they have been struggling to do.

 

[anat0l]

I take it then, that you would regard their service to be on level with that of say Tiger.

Well, no. I would place them in the same position as you did; in fact, I'd put them more at the near "clipping the heels" of QF. JQ and TT just aren't in the same class, period.

The fact that DJ could be as bad as JQ let alone TT doesn't change my view that they can't do worse than they can now barring freak incidents. I guess that statement isn't true if you take a true full spectrum view of quality.

Especially with JB at the helm I don't think it's really possible for DJ to do worse than now. The fact that they can't really do worse (and that everyone knows that) gives them a great advantage in strategic mobility that QF can't have and/or can't harness.

 

[medhead]

However, this amenity kit "improvement" is not something I would call tangible.


Now if that all comes across to you as negative, well I can't help you with that, sorry. Personally I'm still holding out for DJ to act and treat people more professionally, which with new product, new livery and new image will eventually come out.

I consider the kits as tangible evidence that DJ are moving away frmo their LCC roots. A move towards becoming a premium airline. If Qantas did the same of course it would be ridiculed because Qantas is supposedly already a premium airline. I say supposedly because qantas is clearly moving in the other direction and some of the rubbish they serve up on board is little more than a joke.

I would also report that my last few flights with DJ have been very professional experiences. At least as good as the average that qantas offers and even approaching the best that qantas offers. Overall my average DJ experience has been better than the worse that qantas offers in terms of service. I do really like the more consistent service experience on DJ even if it doesn't match the best of QF

 

[777]

I think one of the key reasons folks here find the kits interesting is that they are a clue to what the new premium service/ branding/ etc will include. Indeed there is so much speculations going around as it's probably worthy of a thread in and of itself. So many questions: name, branding, tone, config, velocity "enhancements", partners, etc are all up for grabs at the moment and people are curious about what they may all be - this is one of the early clues.

 

[docjames]

I think one of the key reasons folks here find the kits interesting is that they are a clue to what the new premium service/ branding/ etc will include. Indeed there is so much speculations going around as it's probably worthy of a thread in and of itself. So many questions: name, branding, tone, config, velocity "enhancements", partners, etc are all up for grabs at the moment and people are curious about what they may all be - this is one of the early clues.

I consider the kits as tangible evidence that DJ are moving away frmo their LCC roots. A move towards becoming a premium airline. If Qantas did the same of course it would be ridiculed because Qantas is supposedly already a premium airline. I say supposedly because qantas is clearly moving in the other direction and some of the rubbish they serve up on board is little more than a joke.

+1 to both of these......

 

[extracta]

Now if those amenity kits matched VA's international standard and/or they were offered to all pax on the PER red-eye flights, then we would have a good cause for discussion...

Most amenity kits are cheap rubbish anyway, V Australias included. They do look good on the website though.

What we want is good seats, reasonable leg room, reasonable prices, and a FF scheme that allows automatic access to upgrades.

If DJ can provide this then QF will have to follow suit and the Frequent Flyers will become the winners.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

What we want is good seats, reasonable leg room, reasonable prices, and a FF scheme that allows automatic access to upgrades.

If DJ can provide this then QF will have to follow suit and the Frequent Flyers will become the winners.

Good point.

I stated about 12 months ago that there would some very interesting times ahead in the Australian aviation scene and for DJ in particular. For once, it looks like passengers might come out on the winning side of things, which is great. Good on DJ for the shake up, if it wasn't for them, we'd be stuck in a QF monopoly forever.

The bolding is mine. As Alby stated earlier regarding pricing; SYD-PER in J during the last mining boom was close to $1650 (A330's). I thought to myself, who is paying this (corporates probably)? I could do SYD-LHR return for $2k in Y.

 

[samiam]

Good point.

I stated about 12 months ago that there would some very interesting times ahead in the Australian aviation scene and for DJ in particular. For once, it looks like passengers might come out on the winning side of things, which is great. Good on DJ for the shake up, if it wasn't for them, we'd be stuck in a QF monopoly forever.

The bolding is mine. As Alby stated earlier regarding pricing; SYD-PER in J during the last mining boom was close to $1650 (A330's). I thought to myself, who is paying this (corporates probably)? I could do SYD-LHR return for $2k in Y.

MEL-PER in J is $1700+ each way- there is definitely an opportunity for premium competition on this route and, should DJ come through (amenity pack or no), as a frequent traveller on this route, I for one would sample it.

 

[markis10]

The Dreak pack is now a comfort pack and was on my BNE-DRW flight last night where PE is $600.

What was not onboard was enough Scotch!

 

[777]

What was not onboard was enough Scotch!

Exact same problem on my last P/E Evening flight!

 

[loobloke]

Were you on a refitted aircraft?

I have had friends and family on BNE/MEL/PER - DRW in the past few weeks and all have had refitted aircraft. A check on VA source confirms this.

I think that the aircraft on that route are a continue on/from transcontinental routes, considering that most flights to DRW are red-eye and only fly between east/west coast.

Think it's quite likely to get a refitted bird on this route, and probably pretty worthwhile considering the PE prices are sub $600, where the usual saver fares are around $200...

Maybe I need to find another reason to go back to DRW ... nice weather won't work this time round.

 

[thewinchester]

...and in J on 'red-eye' services from Perth an amenities pack is offered with eye-shades, toothbrush/paste, and socks also available.

And up until 2010 and now no longer offered, there used to be an amenity kit offering similar provided to QF Y pax on red-eye services ex-PER.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

As Alby stated earlier regarding pricing; SYD-PER in J during the last mining boom was close to $1650 (A330's). I thought to myself, who is paying this (corporates probably)? I could do SYD-LHR return for $2k in Y.

I almost gave Alby a "Thumbs Up" for that post of his (hers?)......until I thought about it. You can't compare a J product domestic price with a Y product international price. Even comparing J Dom with J Int is problematic, as there are so many differences...........

Just my thoughts, as an Int. novice!