Earning F SC on QF flight nos.

[Princess Fiona]

Apologies in advance as I can't find a thread recent enough to post to.
I will be going to MCO in FEB with a stopover in MIA using QF 73 out and QF 94
back. Is there a way to book this which will earn F SC on the AA flights ( the QF flights will be J)? The TA has all the AA flights with QF flight nos, thus earning Business SC. Thanks

 

[MelUser]

Yes - pursuant to the QF J fare rules, the TA is allowed to select AA flight numbers (not QF codeshares).

Once the TA has selected AA flight numbers (for the AA metal) they are then allowed to put you into First (A).

Once you are in First (A) you will earn First SCs for AA travel.

The only thing that can put a spanner in the works is tight connections - sometimes short connections from a QF arrival will only allow a QF codeshare but this has only happened to me once.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Yes - pursuant to the QF J fare rules, the TA is allowed to select AA flight numbers (not QF codeshares).

Once the TA has selected AA flight numbers (for the AA metal) they are then allowed to put you into First (A).

Once you are in First (A) you will earn First SCs for AA travel.

The only thing that can put a spanner in the works is tight connections - sometimes short connections from a QF arrival will only allow a QF codeshare but this has only happened to me once.

Thanks! Great news

 

[serfty]

Ticket using AA (have a look at AA.com) that books the Domestic AA flights into First Class.

It may require the AA codeshares transpacific (however a good TA should get around this) but this should make little difference to the service.

Also, if on the AA codeshares it will enable you to achieve the AA "Platinum Challenge", thus giving AAdvantage based Sapphire status until early 2012.

 

[serfty]

... More than that; have a look at a Circle Pacific fare; it may be cheaper.

 

[simongr]

What routing on a circle pacific? Wouldnt you need to route via Asia on one leg? A DCIRC26?

 

[serfty]

One could squeeze in a DCIR22 with a side roundtrip MCO-MIA for USD220:

• SYD-NRT-ORD-MCO-DFW-LAX-SYD (21833 mi)

 

[Princess Fiona]

One could squeeze in a DCIR22 with a side roundtrip MCO-MIA for USD220:

• SYD-NRT-ORD-MCO-DFW-LAX-SYD (21833 mi)

I like your style! Only one tiny problem, the Corporate TA is not the best in the world. Fortunately if I can better her quote on same route/ flights I can book myself and reclaim. This happens often especially now I tap into AFF

 

[simongr]

That's a great deal with the corporate arrangement!

A DCIRC22 would be A$9,299+++

Serfty was that a xUPP fare? If cheap it would be a nice flight to earn F SCs...

 

[serfty]

That's a great deal with the corporate arrangement!

A DCIRC22 would be A$9,299+++

Serfty was that a xUPP fare? If cheap it would be a nice flight to earn F SCs...

Nup, a simple Q class fare for a 192mi/¾ hour flight each way. The instant Upgrade fare was USD892 return.

A DCIR26 is $1,800 more at $11,099

 

[markis10]

I like your style! Only one tiny problem, the Corporate TA is not the best in the world. Fortunately if I can better her quote on same route/ flights I can book myself and reclaim. This happens often especially now I tap into AFF

LOL Best fare Guarantee from your own employer!

 

[straitman]

Nup, a simple Q class fare for a ¾ hour flight each way. The instant Upgrade fare was USD892 return.

A DCIR26 is $1,800 more at $11,099

Could a DCIR26 be used out of NZ?

That should be cheaper.

 

[serfty]

Could a DCIR26 be used out of NZ?

That should be cheaper.

A DCIR26 ex NZ is Kiwi$10,499

[/QUOTE] which is ~AUD8250.

Of course, then one needs to get stylishly to NZ in the first place.

 

[straitman]

That's a great deal with the corporate arrangement!

A DCIRC22 would be A$9,299+++

Serfty was that a xUPP fare? If cheap it would be a nice flight to earn F SCs...

A DCIR26 ex NZ is Kiwi$10,499

which is ~AUD8250.

Of course, then one needs to get stylishly to NZ in the first place.

That would allow approx $1000 to get to AKL and return and give a little more flexibility for planning the trip. (ie no MCO-MIA side trip required)

 

[Boris spatsky]

On the original topic if SC, I have this problem all the time. If you are On a QF ticket, and the AA flight also has a QF number, then you won't get AA F SC. You need to deliberately find flights that do not have QF numbers also. Hard to do on the main trunk routes, QF seem to have their numbers on everything!

 

[serfty]

That's because the QF codehares do no have First availability. You Business booking books into the same cabin as those on AA First, but you only earn J SC's.

 

[MelUser]

On the original topic if SC, I have this problem all the time. If you are On a QF ticket, and the AA flight also has a QF number, then you won't get AA F SC. You need to deliberately find flights that do not have QF numbers also. Hard to do on the main trunk routes, QF seem to have their numbers on everything!

Pursuant to the fare rules, the Travel Agent is allowed to select the AA flight with an AA flight number. If he/she does this then the flight will book into First (A).

Obviously if you are booking via a website or similar then manual override is not possible.

This is the benefit of using a trusted travel agent who knows what they are doing - ie not one of the big chain ones.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Pursuant to the fare rules, the Travel Agent is allowed to select the AA flight with an AA flight number. If he/she does this then the flight will book into First (A).

Obviously if you are booking via a website or similar then manual override is not possible.

This is the benefit of using a trusted travel agent who knows what they are doing - ie not one of the big chain ones.

I has this problem with the QF website. It is almost impossible to get AA flight nos on a dummy booking. I usually use the QF site to plan my trip and then supply TA with all flights. Lucky for me my own TA ( as opposed to my employers) is pretty good. So far looking at Circle Pacific vs direct. Trip is 8 days so shorter trip may be better especially if I can get the F credits aiming for PG.

 

[NM]

Pursuant to the fare rules, the Travel Agent is allowed to select the AA flight with an AA flight number. If he/she does this then the flight will book into First (A).

Obviously if you are booking via a website or similar then manual override is not possible.

This is the benefit of using a trusted travel agent who knows what they are doing - ie not one of the big chain ones.

And note that the agent may receive a greater commission if booking the QF flight number rather than the AA flight number, so there may be a financial incentive for them to book the QF code even though the fare rules permit booking the AA number.

Also some QF corporate fares may require using the QF code if one exists. I know my company's previous fare discount deal with QF provided for a greater discount for QF codes than for AA, BA etc. So while the fare rule allowed booking the AA flight, the cost of the fare was lower if booking the QF codeshare numbers.

 

[Boris spatsky]

Yep, mine are corporate fares so they must get financial incentive to book QF. I have asked to be booked on the AA and they won't do it.