EK has another oops between BKK and HKG

[Mwenenzi]

I'm confused. If the door was not perfectly sealed, wouldn't it be impossible to pressurise the cabin..

No. The pressure source is one (or more) of the engines. Plenty of pressure available. Doubt any current commercial aircraft is 100% pressure tight.

 

[oz_mark]

No. The pressure source is one (or more) of the engines. Plenty of pressure available. Doubt any current commercial aircraft is 100% pressure tight.

AFAIK, They are actually quite leaky.....

 

[Mal]

Just casting my mind back to my only A380 EK flight, I dont remember a Y class on the J deck - was it up front from J? (or is this story so full of holes it would depressurise?)

According to seatguru... yep you're correct. Another hole in the story.

 

[Simo]

Another reason for some AFFer's to not fly A380's at all costs

 

[Sprucegoose]

Another reason for some AFFer's to not fly A380's at all costs

Switch to the 787??

 

[Simo]

Switch to the 787??

I have done the A380 and looking forward to the 787.

Shame Jetstar will have some.

 

[Mal]

Another reason for some AFFer's to not fly A380's at all costs

Why? Because you might sit next to a pax like the one in the story?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Air pressure differences mean its impossible to open the door at all at 27,000 feet. Even if it did so, the cabin would have depressurized, with masks dropping down. It's downright impossible to use blankets, pillows, and tape to fill in the gap. I suppose you could perhaps try to make it happen (albeit with extreme difficulty) at a much lower attitude like 2700 feet, but you definitely won't be at that altitude 2 hours into the BKK-HKG flight. It looks like a journalist has too much time on his hands.

Not sure what arrangements they have on the A380, but the 747 has a smoke evacuation procedure to crack a selection of main deck doors (either/and/or 1,2,4 or 5) once at a safe altitude to do so (can be around the 10,000 feet mark). The stated aperture is approximately 4cm for doors 1 and 2 and as much as 13cm for door 5.

 

[tuapekastar]

Just casting my mind back to my only A380 EK flight, I dont remember a Y class on the J deck - was it up front from J? (or is this story so full of holes it would depressurise?)

According to seatguru... yep you're correct. Another hole in the story.

From the article:

He said cabin crew closed the curtain between business class to stop those in the economy cabin below discovering what was happening.

Not that I don't agree this is a very suspect story.

 

[anat0l]

Another reason for some AFFer's to not fly A380's at all costs

Tell me you're taking the mickey?

 

[anat0l]

From the article....



Not that I don't agree this is a very suspect story.

Not that closing a bl**dy curtain would actually stop Y pax from hearing someone panicking, "We're going down!"

Hope they actually get some real investigative facts onto an authority soon, because the current facts, in spite of inherent sensationalism, are just too unreliable right now to add up.

 

[banger2]

Quite impressive reporting from News (sarcasm) ...... "Emergency Exit door in business class opened 3.8cms"

How was Mr Reid "It was an extremely very nerve-wracking experience for everybody." (assuming Mr Reid is part of "everybody") able to measure the gap at exactly 3.8cm quoted in the article being so nerve-wracked, unless of course another unnamed or uncredited source provided this "fact" to News, but surely News always reports how it comes up with its facts....

Another curious thing to me, the flight time from BKK to HKG is approx 2hrs 45mins (according to my upcoming Cathay flight schedule). Being the flight was 2hours into the flight, I would have thought the most logical landing point still would have been HKG. I would think an "emergency landing", as suggested by Mr Reid (that is, he was surprised they didn't conduct an emergency landing), would still take a significant portion of the remaining 45mins of the flight....and HKG may still have been the most suitable landing airfield considering where the aircraft was and that it is an A380. I would have thought at that point in the flight the aircraft would have been (as someone else suggested) into its descent for landing....

Lots of information missing, and seemingly only reporting what 1 passenger saw and believes...

 

[yohy?!]

irritating how widely the daily mail story has been copied - with only a line or two at the end from airbus and ek for balance categorically proving the claims are impossible.

i recall from "the men who killed qantas" that QF had the same incident occur on an LAX-SYD flight in April 2010 and the solution was the same (to seal the hole with a wet cloth).

seems like a beatup/yawnfest tbh

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Quite impressive reporting from News (sarcasm) ...... "Emergency Exit door in business class opened 3.8cms"

How was Mr Reid "It was an extremely very nerve-wracking experience for everybody." (assuming Mr Reid is part of "everybody") able to measure the gap at exactly 3.8cm quoted in the article being so nerve-wracked, unless of course another unnamed or uncredited source provided this "fact" to News, but surely News always reports how it comes up with its facts....

Another curious thing to me, the flight time from BKK to HKG is approx 2hrs 45mins (according to my upcoming Cathay flight schedule). Being the flight was 2hours into the flight, I would have thought the most logical landing point still would have been HKG. I would think an "emergency landing", as suggested by Mr Reid (that is, he was surprised they didn't conduct an emergency landing), would still take a significant portion of the remaining 45mins of the flight....and HKG may still have been the most suitable landing airfield considering where the aircraft was and that it is an A380. I would have thought at that point in the flight the aircraft would have been (as someone else suggested) into its descent for landing....

Lots of information missing, and seemingly only reporting what 1 passenger saw and believes...

given the passenger was British - he probably said the gap was around one and a half inches - which seems to have been translated by papers as 3.8 cm (which is almost the exact conversion. one paper report said 4 cm). One and a half inches I can believe as an estimation.

the flight time of EK384 on 11 Feb BKK-HKG is reported as 2hrs28mins.

While HKG was likely the most appropriate airport, CAN could have been an alternative A380 equipped field.

 

[anat0l]

... (sarcasm) ...... "Emergency Exit door in business class opened 3.8cms"

..... measure the gap at exactly 3.8cm.......

3.8 cm is very close to 1.5", the latter, especially for those brought up on the old system (not me!), is probably quite easy to visually estimate.


Still, I agree with you that we have to call a healthy dose of BS on this one.


The EK rep response was quite dead pan in the article. That might be quite deliberate (on both sides of the reporting). If anything, it gives the more common folk the wrong impression that EK did indeed do something wrong, when it may have done nothing wrong (or at least is not carrying the significant weight of culpability).

 

[elbarto]

Yet there's no evidence of any explosion occurring, other than something that might have sounded like an explosion. The title of the article, and most of its contents, is misleading. All it needed was a quote from the ALEA somehow blaming this on Qantas.

 

[drron]

Yet there's no evidence of any explosion occurring, other than something that might have sounded like an explosion. The title of the article, and most of its contents, is misleading. All it needed was a quote from the ALEA somehow blaming this on Qantas.

You mean it wasn't!:shock::shock:

 

[Knid]

It never is :mrgreen:

 

[Mal]

The original uk article has been modified http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...en-crew-plugged-gap-blankets-says-Briton.html

Yep. Complete beat up... small technical issue with the seal, customer is an idiot with an overactive imagination.

 

[drron]

But you have to give the Daily Mail credit-a story about an EK A380 and they actually have a picture of an EK A380.Australian journalists please take note.