I believe it would just be the SIN-MEL legs according to the CCCS releaseSo as I understand it we are not yet sure if EK404/405 will be cancelled the whole way through (eg DXB-SIN-MEL) or just the SIN-MEL legs?
Flew EK405 late last year on the B777 with the 2-2-2 J class, and it was a pleasant flight.
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I see they’re still selling for flights in early September 2025. I’m hoping they keep loading these dates until they determine an actual ending date. Was looking at booking awards for early October 2025 and would be happy if that still ended up being possible and they just moved us onto QF (albeit an inferior product).
Is there any precedent of QF doing this?Notice that 4 September 2025 has now become available to book on this flight. 2x J + 1xF awards available on QFF as well. Probably wishful thinking but do hope this continues to be the case in 4 weeks time.
Given I would be booking QFF awards hoping that QF would also shift us to their own metal?
Unfortunately not. As per my post above, EK will notify its partners that the flight has been cancelled. It will be up to the partners to arrange a refund of the points.Given I would be booking QFF awards hoping that QF would also shift us to their own metal?
Based on Qantas attitudes i think its highly unlikely they would make Qantas seats available in premium cabins for any of their reward flights cancelled on partner airlines. I mean there is a reason they rely so heavily on partner airlines for reward seats - so that they can shift redemptions to others at a lower opportunity cost. I hope you are right but I'm not confidentNotice that 4 September 2025 has now become available to book on this flight. 2x J + 1xF awards available on QFF as well. Probably wishful thinking but do hope this continues to be the case in 4 weeks time.
Given I would be booking QFF awards hoping that QF would also shift us to their own metal?
If they are legally allowed to pull the pin by AU Gov then it just comes down to commercial numbers. Further out they go the more empty the planes the less people disrupted less headaches. I check my July 25 flight last night and its almost empty still. Which is not good for me because its an easy option for them to cancel it.But surely EK would keep flying this route for at least the next 3-6 months?
Interestingly EK has not dropped any additional Premium J or F seats for the SIN - MEL leg on QFF which started getting me very worriedIf they are legally allowed to pull the pin by AU Gov then it just comes down to commercial numbers. Further out they go the more empty the planes the less people disrupted less headaches. I check my July 25 flight last night and its almost empty still. Which is not good for me because its an easy option for them to cancel it.
Well my wife is in F & im in J, so I wouldnt care as long as she is in F & im in J..... BUT is this really something they would do?They might reroute you via DXB! I remember when Etihad cancelled the BNE-SIN leg they offered me a flight via AUH
Would make route home from Europe long but interesting. Currently booked emirates Lyon to Dubai J Class on new A350 and then Dubai to Sing on A380 J. From there we have QFF points home from Sing to Melb J Class Emirates 777. I can't see Emirates helping as QFF leg is not really their problem. Fun timesThey might reroute you via DXB! I mean, if you really push you might be able to get that, if the long way around is your thing.
I remember when Etihad cancelled the BNE-SIN leg they offered me a flight via AUH
As others have noted, and in my experience with QF over the last few years, I've rarely managed to get Qantas to consistently rebook me on their own metal for flights they cancelled that were already on their own metal without a massive fight.Is there any precedent of QF doing this?
Definitely considering that too!I'm seeing quite reasonable availability on the SIN-MEL route in First for the remainder of this year, particularly the second half of November and the second half of December.
If I were you I'd take the bull by the horns, find an appropriate date and book. The worst that can happen is that the flights will be cancelled before then and you'll receive a full refund.
No, Emirates seems to not impose carrier charges on many of its fifth freedom flights. I was looking earlier this year at its fifth freedom flights out of the USA and they, too, have very low carrier charges.Out of curiosity. Why was ex sin to melb the only? Flight in the world without stupid taxes? Glitch? Loophole?
They used to -- I think they cancelled it in 2019.Didn’t they also once operate a BNE-SIN? Or was that just Etihad.
It exists, just most people that stumble upon it are keeping their mouths shut for the most part because it'll make the travel blog rounds real quick and they might lose it.Out of curiosity. Why was ex sin to melb the only? Flight in the world without stupid taxes? Glitch? Loophole?
And i only found out very last minute
I m hoping like hell that another destination+ origin will become or there is without the stupid amounts of taxes in J/F?