Erratic Red e-deals Pricing

[serfty]

... (IE was all i could get it to work on, not firefox) ...

CTRL-u does the trick with FF (or Click on "View" then "Page Source")

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Ok, you can call of the search party. l had a play and found it.
So, l notice that there is a hell of alot of informatin to look to.
Would be good if Qantas could make it a little bit easier.
Still, l take it that finding a code in the Red e-deals section, your not going to pick up a full whY for a discount fare?

On the Malev website when you book the tickets, it gives you a selection of fares, plus the booking code next to it. Very useful.

 

[JohnK]

AALovers are going to love that!!!!!

(Actually, my red-e-deal to HKG soon is booked in Q class. Looks like Qantas is using them more and more these days... )

Do you think QF is using Q class, and E class, more often to put a stop to people crediting flights to AAdvantage or other Oneworld FF programs? From memory aren't most QF domestic NZ flights booked in Q class?

 

[Mal]

Do you think QF is using Q class, and E class, more often to put a stop to people crediting flights to AAdvantage or other Oneworld FF programs? From memory aren't most QF domestic NZ flights booked in Q class?

The cynicism in me says yes, the realism in me says that it's just a way Qantas can control sales better.

If they were truly nasty, then they'd remove earning on Q class themselves.

AA lovers have their own things to worry about - such as CX flights in Economy not crediting in most discount fares, Qantas flights in a lot of discount fares not crediting, and of course the very harsh AA penalties for booking FF award tickets late, changing routing or canceling them ($US150 iirc for changing route/re-reinstatement of miles)

 

[JohnK]

If they were truly nasty, then they'd remove earning on Q class themselves.

And that is one of the things I like most about the QFF program. It may not be great for FF points required in redeeming flights but it is one of the best for earning FF points on all flights. I do not have to worry about any of the discount economy codes not earning FF points and I hope this does not change in the future....

 

[Standby]

Do you think QF is using Q class, and E class, more often to put a stop to people crediting flights to AAdvantage or other Oneworld FF programs? From memory aren't most QF domestic NZ flights booked in Q class?

It looks to me that QF are just trying to introduce a couple of price levels that smooth out the jumps between fares to present consistant buy points.DJ already appear to have $10-$20 incremental gaps between fares, it looks like QF are now doinf likewise

 

[NM]

Do you think QF is using Q class, and E class, more often to put a stop to people crediting flights to AAdvantage or other Oneworld FF programs? From memory aren't most QF domestic NZ flights booked in Q class?

I doubt this to be the case. I do not expect there are many people attaining AA status and many miles using QF red-e-deals. If using red-e-deals for lots of QF domestic flights, then QF is likely to be a more rewarding program.

The people who find best advantage using AA's program are those who purchase B and Y fares for domestic travel, not those purchasing the cheapest sale fares.

 

[wandering_fred]

I doubt this to be the case. I do not expect there are many people attaining AA status and many miles using QF red-e-deals. If using red-e-deals for lots of QF domestic flights, then QF is likely to be a more rewarding program.
The people who find best advantage using AA's program are those who purchase B and Y fares for domestic travel, not those purchasing the cheapest sale fares.

OTOH every AA elite who vacations in Oz is reasonably likely to be interested in more than the point to point fare (even if open jaw). And one look at the flexi and flexi saver fares on the QF web site they will be buying red-e-deals. And hoping not to get E Q or N class fares. They won't need the segments for qualification but they will want miles for the segment. And the transparency of the fare classes on a number of airline websites (including QF's) leaves a great deal to be desired. At least with AA and CX (and I think BA) there are obvious ways to check if you wish.

But given my location, it is unlikely I will be flying domestic QF unless on a xONEx or an award ticket (perhaps in combination with a cheap ticket on one of the eastern (or NZ) short segments).

I wonder when QF will admit that they sell tickets to people who participate in other OneWorld FF rpograms........ Or when someone's lawyer queries them about why the legal ticket/fare classes (ie that actually appears on the eticket in additon to red-e-deal) are not specified in advance of purchase.

Fred

 

[NM]

OTOH every AA elite who vacations in Oz is reasonably likely to be interested in more than the point to point fare (even if open jaw). And one look at the flexi and flexi saver fares on the QF web site they will be buying red-e-deals. And hoping not to get E Q or N class fares. They won't need the segments for qualification but they will want miles for the segment. And the transparency of the fare classes on a number of airline websites (including QF's) leaves a great deal to be desired. At least with AA and CX (and I think BA) there are obvious ways to check if you wish.

While your statement is correct, I was doubting the suggestion that Qantas is making more use of Q and E red-e-deals for the purpose of reducing the earnings of AAdvantage members. I doubt that issue even crossed the minds of the people setting the fares.

 

[oz_mark]

Spread to some of the Perth flights now. Looks to be some fairly good year round fares now (assuming reasonable E inventory!)

Effective for sale and travel at approximately 2200 AEDT tonight (Wednesday 28 January 2009), Qantas will make the following changes to the fare tariffs on SYDPERvv, MELPERvv, BNEPERvv and ADLPERvv:

- A new fare basis code of QPTWEBU (booked in Q class) will be added to the Red eDeal fare family and will be governed by the standard fare conditions applying to domestic Red eDeal fares;

- Various pricing adjustments will be made to the existing fares within the four tariffs (up to and including MPXO);

- An equivalent QSXI and QPTKIX will also be added to facilitate inbound and outbound selling; and

- An EPTWEBU fare will be implemented to the fare tariffs on SYDPERvv and BNEPERvv to compliment the existing EPTWEBU offering on MELPERvv and ADLPERvv. These fares will be inventory controlled and not available on all days and/or flights.