EY Upgrade Auction

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Was successful in my bid to upgrade from J-F on my flight yesterday from AUH-SYD. Put in the minimum bid of $765 and was accepted. Interestingly when I changed my seat in the lounge there were still 3 seats free in the F cabin but once onboard the cabin was full. I assume the flight was full and they op-up'd some J pax. Very happy I put in a bid as it was a real treat!
 
I thought people would find this interesting:
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Airlines need to generate as much revenue as possible from every flight. That's where we come in.

The Plusgrade revenue upgrade platform enables our partners to offer travelers the opportunity to upgrade their travel experience, if upgraded inventory is available before time of departure.

By monetizing premium inventory and services that would otherwise go unused, our partners i) see a high-margin incremental revenue stream delivered to their businesses and ii) strengthen their passenger relationships through increased customer value.

The unique core architecture and algorithms that make up Plusgrade's foundation ensures that each passenger targeted for the opportunity and selected for an upgrade meets a host of internally prioritized goals.

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I wonder what the internally prioritized goals entail?
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Clearly tinkybelle doesn't fit the internally prioritized goals, and after her outburst may not in future either!
 
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It's possible been asked before, but can award J class pax put in bids for F?
 
I thought people would find this interesting:
_____________________________________________________________________________
Airlines need to generate as much revenue as possible from every flight. That's where we come in.

The Plusgrade revenue upgrade platform enables our partners to offer travelers the opportunity to upgrade their travel experience, if upgraded inventory is available before time of departure.

By monetizing premium inventory and services that would otherwise go unused, our partners i) see a high-margin incremental revenue stream delivered to their businesses and ii) strengthen their passenger relationships through increased customer value.

The unique core architecture and algorithms that make up Plusgrade's foundation ensures that each passenger targeted for the opportunity and selected for an upgrade meets a host of internally prioritized goals.

_____________________________________________________________________________


I wonder what the internally prioritized goals entail?
:confused:



Clearly tinkybelle doesn't fit the internally prioritized goals, and after her outburst may not in future either!


Perhaps; email address linked in booking (not just in FF profile perhaps?).

I wonder whether booked direct with EY not code share means flights booked through EY online or call centre or does it just mean not a code share flight?

One down side is (not enough life boats...) I booked all 5 of us as one booking (via expedia was several hundred less than EY online) and from my reading of it either all 5 of us are successful or none of us are successful.

Not that I don't adore my family of course but there are days...
 
An update on the process.

I decided to check and see if our booking had the email address attached by Eithad (via expedia purchase). Sure enough it was not, so I got it added.

Even better though was the location of the call centre.

Manchester, England with pretty knowledgeable operators keen to help (and seek supervisor if they weren't sure of all the details - without being asked!!!).

Confirmed that plusgrade offers NOT auto to all (even with email address attached was the implication) that 'other' considerations influenced the result.

Courtesy perhaps?
 
Airport upgrades are available at similar prices if you dont get auction offer
 
Just came back from Africa flying Etihad and I thought I would provide an additional reference point: no email invitation to upgrade was received, however upgrades at the airport were available for purchase. For the flight from NBO to AUH, we were quoted US$250 to upgrade from Y to J and for the AUH - SYD sector, the cost would have been US$700, per person. We booked discount economy but this apparently did not matter.
 
Just came back from Africa flying Etihad and I thought I would provide an additional reference point: no email invitation to upgrade was received, however upgrades at the airport were available for purchase. For the flight from NBO to AUH, we were quoted US$250 to upgrade from Y to J and for the AUH - SYD sector, the cost would have been US$700, per person. We booked discount economy but this apparently did not matter.

Thanks for the update Peter78
 
Yeah, thanks. I heard from someone on this board that it's best to upgrade at the counter, and it can be cheaper. I'll find out in March.

I guess the difference is that the auction upgrade guarantees you the upgrade, whereas waiting until checking in at the airport means you could miss out. Obviously if you don't get offered the auction, you only have the option of at check-in.

IP
 
We took advantage of the Upgrade Auction on our AUH-MXP flight back in December. We bided the lowest we could which was $575 each, although we then didn't find out that we had "won" till we got our boarding passes in MNL, although did notice the money missing from the credit card. When we were then in the first class lounge in AUH we then received the email saying we had won.

On our flight though, there only 6 of us in first class, and I believe only 1 actually paid for the fare, the rest were upgrades (via points or the auction). Great flight though and well worth the money to experience it.
 
We took advantage of the Upgrade Auction on our AUH-MXP flight back in December. We bided the lowest we could which was $575 each, although we then didn't find out that we had "won" till we got our boarding passes in MNL, although did notice the money missing from the credit card. When we were then in the first class lounge in AUH we then received the email saying we had won.

On our flight though, there only 6 of us in first class, and I believe only 1 actually paid for the fare, the rest were upgrades (via points or the auction). Great flight though and well worth the money to experience it.

So you upgraded from Business to First for $575? And that's Abu Dhabi to Milan? That seems like a bargain, although I find Business Class with Etihad is as much pampering as I can handle! And it's the long legs (Abu Dhabi to Oz) which are the ones I most value the comfort on.

IP
 
So you upgraded from Business to First for $575? And that's Abu Dhabi to Milan?

That is correct.

That seems like a bargain, although I find Business Class with Etihad is as much pampering as I can handle! And it's the long legs (Abu Dhabi to Oz) which are the ones I most value the comfort on.

Although I have to say the pampering on Qatar seems much better then Etihad. We flew them from Manila, which normally has great Business fares on most airlines.

Phillippe
 
That is correct.



Although I have to say the pampering on Qatar seems much better then Etihad. We flew them from Manila, which normally has great Business fares on most airlines.

Phillippe

I started flying Etihad because of their quick connections to Ireland from Oz, one less stop than almost every other airline. Now Emirates also fly straight into Dublin but their connections are much worse. The codeshare may help, but I wouldn't fly Qantas long haul if they paid me.

IP
 
I started flying Etihad because of their quick connections to Ireland from Oz, one less stop than almost every other airline. Now Emirates also fly straight into Dublin but their connections are much worse. The codeshare may help, but I wouldn't fly Qantas long haul if they paid me.

IP

swithed to etihad for the long haul to Ireland too, earn sc's and points for velocity while flying home. having VA PLAT helps too. Didn't find Qantas too bad the many times i flew with them although imo you get treated better in J with Etihad. would prefer Qantas economy though over Etihad. not flown Emirates long haul yet.
 
I dont have much to compare it to. I can't recall flying Business with any other airline, except a free upgrade with Tajik Air in the 1990s cos I was traveling with an Iranian friend. Long before meaningful inflight entertainment. But we did get to sit upstairs on a 747 which was wonderfully quiet. That flight was Heathrow to Delhi. It landed in Dushanbe but we didn't get off. I think on the way back there were no passengers for or from Dushanbe, so it didn't bother landing there! Tajik Air didn't last long.

I used to fly "home" with Emirates in the early 2000s, and I think they were one of the first to introduce on-demand IFE in Economy. I've never seen the point of non-on-demand, as you can't go to the toilet (and nor can your neighbours, if you're in Economy!) without missing a bit of the movie.

But the flat beds in Emirates Business Class are just the ticket for me. Flights go past so quickly if you can sleep (I can't in Economy unless heavily alcoholised, and that isn't practical if collecting a hire car at the other end; even Temazepam didn't work when I tried it once; nor Melatonin).

Peter
 
Just came back from Africa flying Etihad and I thought I would provide an additional reference point: no email invitation to upgrade was received, however upgrades at the airport were available for purchase. For the flight from NBO to AUH, we were quoted US$250 to upgrade from Y to J and for the AUH - SYD sector, the cost would have been US$700, per person. We booked discount economy but this apparently did not matter.

Curious developments with Etihad/plusGrade/Airport upgrades - All not as it may seem.

Returned yesterday and Etihad has not covered itself in glory to say the least.

For outward legs I did not get 'invited' by PlusGrade despite email address being linked to booking (done by Etihad at my request). For SYD/AUH they had 11 empty business seats on departure day and AUH/MUC at least 10.

I did buy upgrades from Eco to Bus at the airport for USD750 quoted price vs price mentioned in this thread (queried twice to no avail) and then a further sting in the tail the exchange rate for USD/AUD was EVEN WORSE than Travelex was charging for cash. No Etihad airport staff would not charge my cc in USD, they used rate of AUD 1 = 0.99 USD, so nearly a 6% mark-up in price. We caved and figured approx $50 per flight hour worth it.

On flight service was very attentive and we were left with the feeling the staff must normally deal with self-absorbed SOBs by the way they reacted to our children saying "Thank you" when handed the food, soft drinks etc. Flat beds very comfortable but narrow. At 80kg, 180cm I'm not large but shoulder width was only just wide enough.

Arrived in AUC to see that onward leg flight due to depart as expected. Trouble is it didn't, in fact the airport screens continued to say it (and a dozen other flights) were on time etc even 3 hours after they were due to have departed. There are no PA announcements made at Abu Dhabi airport (we were informed by Airport liaison personnel).

When I pointed out that they had the flight shown in Terminal 1 as leaving from Terminal 1 and in Terminal 2 as leaving from Terminal 2 they said that was impossible. So I walked back to the other terminal to find the impossible happens and was still happening.

Over the scheduled 3 hour wait from arrival to scheduled departure I amused myself by going to the airport information desk and asking what gate/Terminal the flight would leave from. 1st and 3rd time said this terminal, 2nd said the other terminal - remember this was before flight was due to leave.

So becoming increasingly alarmed I went to the supposed gate an hour before departure to be told to go away as no flight to Munich was leaving from that gate that day. When I said I had been told twice it was the gate attendant pushed (roughly) through me and three other passengers from the same SYD flight we had arrived on. I don't bruise easily but then again do not expect to be gone through by someone like a Wallaby going for the try line.

Went back to Airport info people - Yes it is leaving from that gate. SO checked gate every ten minutes. Board still showed it as leaving from that gate and in fact never changed the time nor gate even 2hrs 45 minutes after departure time had passed. When asking about it the different staff got on the phone and said it would be changed in the next few minutes. It never did.

By then it was obvious that there were many flights on time that had not departed.

Checking back at the info every 10 minutes (now sending my wife and eldest daughter alternately) kept getting the same result.

Until it didn't at 2hr 50m when my wife was told we should have boarded the plane already at another gate that was not shown on the screen. What's more the screens around the terminal DID NOT SHOW the flight boarding. This gate we were sent to (this time at least) was on the lower level so given the change in message to "should have boarded" - we ran.

The sign to this particular gate sent you to a dead end, no door, no airline or airport officials, nothing.

We were not happy.

Our kids stayed put while I went one way for info and my wife the opposite direction. I had no luck, no English speaking workers to be found just all the duty free shops who were serving customers. My wife had more luck at a perfume counter where she was told, "Oh they closed that off nearly a year ago, you have to go through Gate XX security to get to it."

By this stage it was more like a "Basil Fawlty does Airports" training video. We ran according to the new directions which turned out to be spot on to see a near empty lounge with people on buses outside. There were close to 50 people queuing so we joined it and asked what flight they were getting on - the replies it had better be Munich.

Clearly some had come from the other terminal as they ranged from outraged at having gone through security at the other terminal (as the screen their suggested the gate was there still) only to be told (in a similar fashion but at this terminal) that they should have already boarded the flight. Meanwhile another dozen or so arrived in an equally happy state. BTW the queue for security at the other terminal stretched over 250m when we had started queuing their earlier in the day. They had turned off the travelator and were using it to extend the queue. Apparently the queue there had gotten longer.

The saga continued though. Most SYD issued boarding passes seemed not to work (funny that?) so staff were manually entering via a computer through what seemed around 50 to 60 key stokes with delays in between. With two staff working the queue inched forward slowly. I then saw and heard an anxious Etihad clad worker say that they could not go any faster as no-one knew where the key was to the other boarding doors, so they'd called the airport security repeatedly but they still hadn't arrived.

I thought "Thank God for slack airport security", or we'd have missed the flight most likely. Now despite three buses being full of passengers outside - they stayed there. A few minutes later (after the queue had moved forward about 4 people) airport security turned up and unlocked two other doors. Now being a pedant I wondered why the Etihad staff had not just used the readers at those two doors to process people and then walk them out the only open doors - there were plenty of Etihad staff standing around doing nothing?

Once the five of us were through I asked one of them why the delay and was told it was due to fog over Pakistan. Once all the buses were filled (no more in the boarding lounge) we were driven to the plane. It was not a short drive, close to 5 minutes but not knowing the airport well I could not be sure where we went but I suspected it was indeed the other terminal. The plane was parked away from the terminal as it was and we boarded up the mobile stairs.

On boarding (at the door) I asked why the delay and was told that there was a mechanical fault that had taken time to fix. Given over a dozen flights were delayed I thought that odd.

Once seated the pilot's welcome confused the issue more, apologising and saying that the flight was delayed due to late connections. At least we were on the right flight, changed plane though. Then subsequently the 2nd officer spoke saying that the delay was due to having to call in a new flight crew due to staff sickness which caused the scheduled pilot to be unable to fly as he would have exceeded his permitted duty time, so after the missing steward/stewardess had been replaced they then needed to call in a replacement flight crew which delayed things further.

Etihad did not cover themselves with honour to say the least.


For homeward legs I did get invited. See Part TWO
 
Part Two:

{I forgot to mention in the first part that they ran out of the dish choices in business class on the SYD/AUH flight and meal choice in economy on the AUH/MUC flight - and we were in row 24 with 16+ rows behind still to be fed. This also happened on the AUH/SYD homeward econ flight yesterday.}

I received an email saying I was eligible to upgrade for both the MUC/AUH and AUH/SYD legs although no time limit mentioned.

Dear Guests,

Etihad Airways is delighted to inform you that the following segments of your upcoming flights are now eligible for an upgrade to the next higher cabin—Pearl Business Class
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I tried over three consecutive days to 'upgrade' the AUH/SYD leg. Min bid was AUD660, which I tried to lodge. All up spent about 8 hours (3 days morning and night attempts over wifi) trying. I could complete step 1, step 2 but at step 3 it would give an error message, "System temporarily unavailable please try later."

Why you may ask did I keep trying? My wife fell and damaged her shoulder ligaments/tendons (lost in translation somewhat) early in holiday and not getting jostled seemed a good idea.

So eventually gave up and arrived at Munich airport to find just 3 people checking in the flight, their systems were not working properly (sound familiar?) and that was why my PlusGrade attempts had kept failing previously. Queue moved even slower than at Abu Dhabi with each check in taking 5-8 minutes.

As their system was not working, the seats I had got allocated (for all our flights the day I bought the tickets in April 12) were given away to other people. We got to the airport just under 3 hours before scheduled departure, we cleared the check-in approx 40 minutes before departure. Unable to upgrade our booking to business.

Airport staff were polite (Air Berlin I think, not in Etihad uniforms) but said they were powerless to do anything (true?) but that we could try at the gate as given the brace my wife was wearing it was clear it would be good if she could be protected from getting bumped/knocked.

At the gate, no sympathy, system problems affect everyone, no apology for inconvenience (or lack of email saying do not waste your time trying to use plusgrade etc).

Finally they said they might be able to get my wife into business for Eur 491 upgrade cost but only her and in the middle, not singly on the side. (Etihad middle business seats are like a double bed - each seat is right next to its neighbour so when in bed mode your neighbour's arm/leg can come across.)

So my wife declined the offer not willing to risk getting knocked directly vs the econ seats we had on window and next to window so I could run interference and suggest that people behind not kick her seat back (which happened on the AUH/SYD leg with a German 20 something thinking putting his feet on the back of the tray table before takeoff and pushing alternate legs was a fun past time until I spoke with him).

MUC flight left close to on time. Arrived close to on-time, no drama.

At Abu Dhabi we went to the transit desk to ask about upgrade cost. I mentioned that despite receiving an email saying we could bid to upgrade, spent 3 days attempting, but no success - lady at the desk interrupted me to say obviously I couldn't bid to upgrade as that promotion finished months ago. I replied that is a little odd as I had an email sent by Etihad this very month. To which she replied no you don't. I asked if I could show it to her to clear up the confusion - that rocked her. She then interrupted the lady next to her and in arabic (I assume) rattled off a discourse while pointing to my wife and I regularly.

She then turned back to us and said, wait my colleague will speak with you.

A few minutes later her colleague gave us the same, you're mistaken response so I said hold on and I will show you the email perhaps that will clear things up. I got out my (no advertising here!) mobile device and pulled up the email. Handed the device to the lady for her to read. She read it, reread it and then for good measure went through it a third time. Then she handed it back to me and said, "You're too late you needed to do it earlier than now."

I then reran the "I tried for three days but you have system problems" which she did acknowledge and then went on to say but you can't do it now. I responded I am not trying to I just wanted some acknowledgement of the trouble Etihad has put us (and other passengers) through, and what is the price to buy an at airport upgrade?

Response - you're too late, we've oversold the flight and we are short 5 business class seats as it is.

Ten minutes more with the lady telling us why it was all our fault and nothing to do with Etihad we left for the gate lounge.

Yet again flight scheduled and estimated departure time shown as 9.45pm, at 9.40pm no one had boarded but at least we were at a gate. An in lounge announcement made, "we will be boarding shortly." Many more we will be boarding shortly announcements made until the flight eventually took off at around 11.28 ish.

At 10.50 pm the pilot announced that due to delays the air traffic authority was going to delay the flight another 25 minutes in order to manage the "departure flow". Now the departure boards showed hardly any flights leaving after 10.20pm so that sounded suspiciously like passing the buck.

During that 25 minutes, and the subsequent addtional 13 minutes all electronic power was turned off and on 3 times, in addition all seat back screens over 9 times (I started counting after a few had been done). Even the emergency evacuation blue lights were cycled a few times.

So whatever they may have said you do not reset circuitbreakers and reboot systems to manage "departure flow".

It would seem Etihad have a difficulty in telling the truth and accepting responsibility for their actions (or inaction).

Be warned - do not schedule close connection times with Etihad. You can be very unlucky, perhaps their rapid growth (only a 10 yr old airline and only a relative few {overworked?} planes) has exceeded their ability to cope with aircraft down time. Curiously enough their inflight magasine shows that Air Berlin (part owned partner airline) has a much larger fleet and will still have when all 41 787s, 10 A380s and 10(?) A350-1000s have been received (by 2023 is it?) into Etihad's fleet (assuming no retirements as they wouldn't double count would they?).

The biggest joke was just before we went on this trip someone commented that they now leave 5 hours between scheduled arrival departure times just in case.
 
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What business codes should I look at on expert flyer to check availability for upgrades?
I see J, C, D, W.
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