First complaint in years

Maccaj73

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Hi All,

My complaint may seem like a first world problem, and yes it is, but when QF charges ludicrous prices, decent service is expected by crew, as is a policy and environment to help produce it by management.

I haven’t made a complaint in years and have had worse experiences and tend to just move on, but this one really got my goat…It probably didn’t help after being glared at by a staff member when I interrupted her knitting behind the counter to ask a question….

Keen to hear your thoughts or if others have provided similar feedback on such poor attitude and the pre-drink situation which although trivial really shows a parallel with VA.

I am QF Plat and A/C was an A330.

“I don’t ever provide feedback on flights however on this occasion I feel I must on my recent experience.

I upgraded to Business using points for the short hop MEL-SYD, which I wouldn’t usually bother on such a short journey but was tired and looking forward to wrapping up a big year of travel.

I was assigned seat 7A (A330) and as usual there was no preflight welcome drink. I find it ludicrous that Qantas can justify charging $1500 one way MEL-SYD. With a Virgin Business fare for less than half the price for $700 you would be gautenteed this along with mostly friendly and enthusiastic crew, it’s a nice start to the trip. Quite an interesting demonstration of value.

10 minutes after take off I had not seen one single crew member. I wasn’t particularly fussed because I was busy working, and by their tone and attitude whilst boarding and hearing them speaking to other customers I could tell they really did not want to be there, and either need to retire or find another job. They seemed to have an inherent distain for customers.

Nearly 45 minutes later I heard the captain advise we were commencing decent and I still had not seen a single crew member since takeoff until one came and offered me a meal and said I need to be quick as we’re landing soon.

Our micro-cabin in Row 7+8 of 6 customers were completely ignored. To make that even more evident on trying to exit the aircraft the gentlemen in front of me (7D?) was blocked getting off by one of the very unfriendly crew who glared and snapped “you need to wait for business to get off first”.. to which he replied “I am in business” which she replied “you can sneak out behind me then” then proceeded to block me and the rest of his family leaving.

I don’t expect much on a 1hr hop but that was such a poor experience, Your crew need to be performance managed and their attitude addressed. The lack of a basic welcome drink when you charge what you do is an ongoing joke also.”
 
I was assigned seat 7A (A330) and as usual there was no preflight welcome drink. I find it ludicrous that Qantas can justify charging $1500 one way MEL-SYD. With a Virgin Business fare for less than half the price for $700 you would be gautenteed this along with mostly friendly and enthusiastic crew, it’s a nice start to the trip. Quite an interesting demonstration of value.
Why fly QF then? This is why I never bother, every time I fly VA business, the crew is super friendly and enthusiastic, even on a 1h flight I would get champagne, red wine, meal, and top ups of wine.
 
Hi All,

My complaint may seem like a first world problem, and yes it is, but when QF charges ludicrous prices, decent service is expected by crew, as is a policy and environment to help produce it by management.

I haven’t made a complaint in years and have had worse experiences and tend to just move on, but this one really got my goat…It probably didn’t help after being glared at by a staff member when I interrupted her knitting behind the counter to ask a question….

Keen to hear your thoughts or if others have provided similar feedback on such poor attitude and the pre-drink situation which although trivial really shows a parallel with VA.

I am QF Plat and A/C was an A330.

“I don’t ever provide feedback on flights however on this occasion I feel I must on my recent experience.

I upgraded to Business using points for the short hop MEL-SYD, which I wouldn’t usually bother on such a short journey but was tired and looking forward to wrapping up a big year of travel.

I was assigned seat 7A (A330) and as usual there was no preflight welcome drink. I find it ludicrous that Qantas can justify charging $1500 one way MEL-SYD. With a Virgin Business fare for less than half the price for $700 you would be gautenteed this along with mostly friendly and enthusiastic crew, it’s a nice start to the trip. Quite an interesting demonstration of value.

10 minutes after take off I had not seen one single crew member. I wasn’t particularly fussed because I was busy working, and by their tone and attitude whilst boarding and hearing them speaking to other customers I could tell they really did not want to be there, and either need to retire or find another job. They seemed to have an inherent distain for customers.

Nearly 45 minutes later I heard the captain advise we were commencing decent and I still had not seen a single crew member since takeoff until one came and offered me a meal and said I need to be quick as we’re landing soon.

Our micro-cabin in Row 7+8 of 6 customers were completely ignored. To make that even more evident on trying to exit the aircraft the gentlemen in front of me (7D?) was blocked getting off by one of the very unfriendly crew who glared and snapped “you need to wait for business to get off first”.. to which he replied “I am in business” which she replied “you can sneak out behind me then” then proceeded to block me and the rest of his family leaving.

I don’t expect much on a 1hr hop but that was such a poor experience, Your crew need to be performance managed and their attitude addressed. The lack of a basic welcome drink when you charge what you do is an ongoing joke also.”
Just wow.
 
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Happed to us once quite a few years back. AKL to LAX on QF. There was an aircraft change, we had J tickets. We’re sitting in the 2nd cabin, all J seating, and the crew started handing out Y class menus and amenities. We, and a few others queried what was going on, the crew thought we were Y pax sitting in a J cabin, when we showed our boarding passes they were shocked and embarrased. There was some discussion we overheard of running out of linen for the service. Wasn’t crews fault, they hadn’t been told apparently. All fixed in the end. I’m guessing it was a similar situation?
 
Hi All,

My complaint may seem like a first world problem, and yes it is, but when QF charges ludicrous prices, decent service is expected by crew, as is a policy and environment to help produce it by management.

I haven’t made a complaint in years and have had worse experiences and tend to just move on, but this one really got my goat…It probably didn’t help after being glared at by a staff member when I interrupted her knitting behind the counter to ask a question….

Keen to hear your thoughts or if others have provided similar feedback on such poor attitude and the pre-drink situation which although trivial really shows a parallel with VA.

I am QF Plat and A/C was an A330.

“I don’t ever provide feedback on flights however on this occasion I feel I must on my recent experience.

I upgraded to Business using points for the short hop MEL-SYD, which I wouldn’t usually bother on such a short journey but was tired and looking forward to wrapping up a big year of travel.

I was assigned seat 7A (A330) and as usual there was no preflight welcome drink. I find it ludicrous that Qantas can justify charging $1500 one way MEL-SYD. With a Virgin Business fare for less than half the price for $700 you would be gautenteed this along with mostly friendly and enthusiastic crew, it’s a nice start to the trip. Quite an interesting demonstration of value.

10 minutes after take off I had not seen one single crew member. I wasn’t particularly fussed because I was busy working, and by their tone and attitude whilst boarding and hearing them speaking to other customers I could tell they really did not want to be there, and either need to retire or find another job. They seemed to have an inherent distain for customers.

Nearly 45 minutes later I heard the captain advise we were commencing decent and I still had not seen a single crew member since takeoff until one came and offered me a meal and said I need to be quick as we’re landing soon.

Our micro-cabin in Row 7+8 of 6 customers were completely ignored. To make that even more evident on trying to exit the aircraft the gentlemen in front of me (7D?) was blocked getting off by one of the very unfriendly crew who glared and snapped “you need to wait for business to get off first”.. to which he replied “I am in business” which she replied “you can sneak out behind me then” then proceeded to block me and the rest of his family leaving.

I don’t expect much on a 1hr hop but that was such a poor experience, Your crew need to be performance managed and their attitude addressed. The lack of a basic welcome drink when you charge what you do is an ongoing joke also.”
Wow - that is extremely poor from Qantas. It is perfectly fair to make a complaint based on your experience and I'll be keen to hear what resolution, if any, is offered by Qantas.

Qantas website states the following on its business class travel class, "A superior way to fly. For work or play, explore Business with more space to relax, a dedicated cabin, the freshest seasonal ingredients in the sky, lounge access and our friendly cabin crew ready to look after you."

I would state to them the service provided was far from friendly and almost non-existent!
 
Qantas came back with an apology and 10k points credited as a ‘sorry’. At least they acknowledged it, but I wish they actually made some meaningful product changes and reintroduced half decent service. Will cross my fingers they do in future.
 
Qantas came back with an apology and 10k points credited as a ‘sorry’. At least they acknowledged it, but I wish they actually made some meaningful product changes and reintroduced half decent service. Will cross my fingers they do in future.
Nice! That's about $200 worth of travel. VA pays zero compensation for goodwill, and to date has not recognised one service failure as being a problem!
 
VA pays zero compensation for goodwill,

Well, sometimes they do - such as when they cancelled my J CBR-MEL flight and auto re-booked me on Qantas flight which wasn't suitable and I ended up later in Y on VA. Refund of fare difference, prompt apology and prompt 10K points.

I posted it here.
 
I think that’s a pretty good outcome! I do this route pretty much every week and feel for the pax in either row 3 or row 7 as they have no chance.

If you get a seat choice please choose neither as flight time is just too quick. Most crew do a pretty good job given time constraints. I’ve even seen crew race each other up the aisle in jest on an A330 as flight time is too quick…they tend to provide bigger wine pours. It’s a tough route for the crew.

I think from the multitude of threads here you should have sufficient notice there is no welcome drink nor pre meal drink so think you did have high expectations here. If you want that then you may need to transition to Va who have a shocking ground experience.
 

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