First trip to Tokyo - Welcoming all suggestions

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Yes, totally forgot about that. :oops:

The Lonely Planet Tokyo city guide is only ~AUD25, and has the locations and subway/oveground rail map in a small lift-out you can carry in your back pocket.

I've grabbed the iPhone Lonely Planet Guide but from what I've seen these are a far cry from the printed version in terms of the amount of information they provide.

Looks like i may have to invest in the printed version also :)...

ntaus
 
We did a one day tour to Nikko, which we enjoyed.

Was this an organised tour or did you venture out on your own? I understand the touristy nature of Nikko as expressed by at least one person in this thread, but I think we're okay with this - it tends to be the case that we do the tourist thing the first visit to a new country / city and then do the more adventurous things on the second or further visits.

Rather than another tedious bus ride home through Tokyo traffic, we actually took the bullet train. Something like this might be a great way to kill two birds with one stone (Fuji/Hakone and bullet train).

This does appear to be the view take by the tours to Hakone / Mt Fuji offered by JTB. Definitely want to try out a bullet train at least once!

ntaus
 
I dare say we'll spend however long we have until needing to head back to the hotel to pickup bags and head to the airport for the 10pm flight.

ntaus

That brings back a nightmare for me, I turned up for the 20:00 flight NRT-SYD expecting a '10:00pm departure', just in time to see it takeoff at 8:00pm. I let MrsB do the clock conversion.
 
Where is this, I might check it out. I'm back in Tokyo next month.

Bright Brown is in Nakano and is an upstairs bar. Another good one is Jirokichi in Koenji, which is a proper basement blues club.
 
Was this an organised tour or did you venture out on your own?
This was an organised tour, I think through JTB. It was definitely the same organisation that we went on the Hakone/Fuji day tour.

Also a tip, always buy the Lonely Planet iPhone guides as individual apps. The ones bought within their 'master' iPhone app don't have as much functionality. AFAIK, Lonely Planet are aware of this, and currently recommend this action to customers.
 
Is anyone able to let me know whether there are still things going on in Ryoguku outside of the festivals?

ntasu

The sumo stables are where the actual wrestlers live and train and so on, so they will generally all be there unless there is a big meet in another city.
 
look into how much the guided tour costs against the JR train prices. the tour if it included bullet train would be the way to go,especially for a day trip.
bullet trains are quite expensive once you are in japan. we usually get a JR rail pass for 7 days but you have to buy this prior to going to japan, but we usually travel to another city after a couple of days in tokyo. see JTB website. it's easy to use.
JR timetables are online and are excellent. but if you are just going to use it for 1 day trip, then railpass probably not worth it.
also check that you have PIN for using credit cards. much more preferred in Japan.
stayed in somersett apartments in Rappongi last time. quite good.
 
The sumo stables are where the actual wrestlers live and train and so on, so they will generally all be there unless there is a big meet in another city.

Sorry ntaus, I missed your query about Ryoguku. Whereishome is correct, the sumo are there all the time. There are organised tours to watch training once or twice a week, but I just went the wander on my own and came across them all over the place.
 
Oh, you'll have a great time in Tokyo! It's good to see more Aussies going to Japan, I think maybe prices/language scared people off but when I was there in October there were heaps of Aussies - the downside of Jetstar flying there is the tons of bogan school groups we encountered!
You'll still find yourself standing out like a sore thumb though - being stared at is par for the course.

I used to live in Ebina which you are REALLY bored, is an hour to the west of Tokyo on the Odakyu line, but there's not a lot there so I wouldn't recommend it. Most of my experience is with the Kanto area, although if you have a little more time getting out and about is well worthwhile.

To give you an overview of what can be done in 5 days, I'll tell what we did.

I took my sister in October for her first Japan trip, and we flew a red-eye SIN-KIX (Kansai Int'l, Osaka) and then converted our JR passes to get the airport train (Haruka) to Shin-Osaka, then the bullet train to Hiroshima. In the evening we visited the Peace Park and the A-dome. Next morning it was the A-bomb museum (I've been 4 times and still struggle to deal with it) before checking out and heading to Miyajima for Itsukushijima (the floating Torii gate they like to use on tourism ads). The JR stations all have coin lockers and thus you can store your baggage there while sightseeing. Alternatively, takyuubin companies can sent your bag from hotel to hotel so you don't have to worry about them at all. I can't recall the cost exactly, but I think it was about $30.

In the afternoon we got the shinkansen (bullet train) through to Kyoto. Normally I would recommend a stop at Himeji but the castle is under repair. Muchos scaffolding, much like most of Europe when I visit...
In Kyoto it's easy to get temple fatigue. I would recommend Kiyomizu-dera (especially for anyone travelling in Oct/Nov when the leaves are going red) and Kinkaku-ji (the golden temple). I also like to take people to Nijo-jo castle - less of a beautiful multistorey castle like Himeji, but still interesting to look around the buildings and the grounds.
Visiting the Daibutsu (big Buddha) at Nara is interesting, however they were renovating bits of the pavilion in October which restricted things somewhat. The daibutsu at Kamakura, a short trip out of Tokyo, is a good second choice.

We then spent the final 2 days in Tokyo, where trips to Shinjuku (Metropolitan Govt Building for sightseeing, as well as shopping and the chance to visit the busiest station in the world), Ginza and Meguro were in order. Meguro?? Yes, some of us have interesting hobbies and Meguro contains a tiny free museum called the Meguro Parasitological museum. If you've ever wanted to see an 8m tapeworm preserved, now's your chance! I realise this may be a niche interest....


If you stay entirely in Tokyo, I would recommend spending a day in Kamakura/ Yokohama, and a separate day trip to Fuji/Hakone. Kamakura is a former capital and has more of the old feel that is harder to find in Tokyo. Yokohama had the 2 biggest department stores in the world, although I think they have lost their titles now.
For days in Tokyo itself, I would suggest lazy days over the weekend in Harajuku people watching (google cosplay and learn about the oddness you may see), best on Saturdays I think, and Ginza on sundays when the road is shut off for pedestrian use while shopping.

As for the fish market, I don't see the attraction really (Disclaimer: not a fan of fish, can't stand the smell!) but be warned there are restrictions now. The market gets closed to tourists at busy times and also there is a 140-person limit, first in best dressed. See www (dot) japan-guide (dot)com/e/e3021 (sorry it won't let me post a link!) for more details.

Can't say much for accomodation, mostly stayed at budget places as a tourist. There are hotels for all budgets, and it really depends on if you want luxury or just somewhere to crash for the night, and if you want something you are familiar with like a western brand, or if you want to try something new (traditional ryokan).

Finally, useful tools for getting around:
Hyperdia (dot) com (can't auto-link, sorry!)
Tells you which train, where, how much etc.
I think google maps is now incorporating a similar feature including times, routes and costs into Japan searches as well.
And if you don't speak any Japanese, carry the business card of the hotel with you to ensure you get back to the right place in a taxi - they often have maps as Japan doesn't use street names or numbers the way we do so finding places can be hard.
Most train stations have a "police box" near a main exit, and these chaps are good at providing local maps and directions, although their English isn't usually brilliant.

Last thing - Tokyo has the most Michelin starred restaurants in the world now, I believe. Mainly French and Japanese cooking, but assorted others too I think. Either google or contact hotel to see if they can tee up something special for your wife's birthday :)

Sorry to yammer on, any more questions let me know!
 
I have a ton of experience traveling in Japan. In no particular order:

1. Don't stay out by Disney. You will have quite a train ride back and forth to the city proper and Tokyo Disney is not worth a base camp.

2. Shinkansen. Day trip. KYOTO hands down. Two 1/2 hours or so each way.

Check schedules here: Hyperdia | Timetable and Route Search in Japan.

A Kyoto RT on a 7-day stay is about break-even on a JR 7-day Pass. Each way is 13220 Yen Tokyo-Kyoto (26440 yen). The 7-day JR Pass is 28300 Yen. You will use the balance and save time at ticket vending machines just a few trips a day around Tokyo.

JR Pass info here: About JAPAN RAIL PASS

3. Avoid the major hotel chains. I routinely pay 7000 yen per night for a super clean room easy walk to trains and subway. Sometimes I stay in hostels for 4000 yen per night or less. Hostels in Japan are well run, secure, and CLEAN.

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4. o-hanami season (cherry blossom time) in March/April is best time of year to see Japan. I'll be on my way myself again this year.

5. PM me and I'll send you some other info when I have time.
 
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2. Shinkansen. Day trip. KYOTO hands down. Two 1/2 hours or so each way.

Check schedules here: Hyperdia | Timetable and Route Search in Japan.

A Kyoto RT on a 7-day stay is about break-even on a JR 7-day Pass. Each way is 13220 Yen Tokyo-Kyoto (26440 yen). The 7-day JR Pass is 28300 Yen. You will use the balance and save time at ticket vending machines just a few trips a day around Tokyo.

JR Pass info here: About JAPAN RAIL PASS
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4. o-hanami season (cherry blossom time) in March/April is best time of year to see Japan. I'll be on my way myself again this year. ...
The 7 day JR rail pass becomes becomes better than "break even" if using the Narita Express.

As for the Sakura, on a lovely day in Kyoto in early April 2009, we walked from Kiyomizu-dera to Ginkakuji via Maruyama park and the "philosopher's walk", starting around Noon and catching a taxi back to our hotel around 5pm.

It was most scenic. :cool:

 
The 7 day JR rail pass becomes becomes better than "break even" if using the Narita Express.

Indeed it does... but the Skyliner is faster to Nippori and Ueno if your hotel is in Taito-ku where hotel rates are typically more moderate than other parts of the city (in my experience). Of course you can't use the JR Pass on the Skyliner though... The JR Pass only pays out if you make those long trips. My last JR Pass was a 21 day and I ran up about 4 times the fare value in that period so it was a great deal.
 
Agree, it's usually not too taxing but Shinjuku has over 200 exits!
Despite this, I found it reasonably easy to navigate with a map. We stayed at the Keio Plaza at Shinjuku and it only took a couple of days to become comfortable at the station. The Hyatt Regency is only a little further than Keio plaza and the walk is only about 1km (only difficult with luggage).

I would highly recommend seeing Harajuku in the evening to see the fashion. There is a shop a few stores down from Maccas (see photo on wiki) that sells cheap souvenirs.

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Lots of good ideas in this thread already.

I lived in Tokyo in 2009 and am heading back there in late Feb to show a friend around for a week, so am facing similar questions about planning and timing.

For accommodation, I really like the ANA Intercontinental (Akasaka/Roppongi) and the Strings by Intercontinental (Shinagawa). Both have great views, with the Club Lounge on the top floor of the Intercontinental being pretty good. I expect both would be similarly priced to the Hyatt Regency, but haven't checked. I definately wouldn't stay out near disneyland, but otherwise won't debate the merits of the different hotels as what is best depends on a lot of different factors.

For a day trip, I think it's fairly hard to split it between Nikko, Kamakura and Hakone/Fuji-san. To be honest, it would depend a bit on the weather - you're not going to get worthwhile views of Mt Fuji unless the weather is fine.

I visited Nikko on an absolutely miserable day (which was also a very croweded and busy day, as it was a public holiday) so didn't love it, but it was doable. However the next day we went out to Lake Chuzenji and the Kegon waterfall. The weather was better and it was fantastic. If you take the bus halfway up the mountain, then catch the cable-car up to see the Kegon waterfall view, you can (if you're keen) actually walk around the rest of the mountain to Lake Chuzenji.

If you're going to go somewhere overnight, I can't argue that Kyoto or Hiroshima are good options. Hiroshima is probably my pick, because the Atomic Bomb museum is incomparable and Miyajima (the nearby island with the Shinto temple and floating gate) is a stunning as anything in Kyoto. If you go to Hiroshima you have to eat Okonomiyaki. Having said all that, Kyoto is a couple of hours closer, and its probably where I'll take my friend. In addition to the temples, there's a gyoza bar in the Gion district which is a must-visit venue for me.

The other option would be an onsen town. Kusatsu, to the north, is fantastic. We stay at a Ryokan called "Boun" which was just amazing, and not unreasonably priced.

As for Tokyo itself, let me mention a couple of ideas I don't think have come up yet:

I quite like the area directly to the west of Tokyo station. If you walk towards the Imperial Palace from Tokyo station you pass a couple of good shopping streets (high class like Ginza), a good coffee spot (Dean & Deluca) and can wander around the grounds of the Imperial Palace. One of the largest book chains, Maruzen has a huge store nearby (Marunouchi), with a great selection of English books about Japan - it's on the top level of the bookshop (lvl 4 I think).

I think the best view of Tokyo at night is from the "Tokyo City View" at the top of Roppongi Hills/Mori Tower. It's a bit pricey, but unmatched by either Tokyo Tower or the Metorpolitan Government Buildings in my opinion. If you want a decent Italian meal (which is worth trying in Tokyo) there is a great place at the bottom of the Ark Mori Building about 15 mins down the road.

Feel free to PM me if you want any more specific info.

Have fun and ganbatte.

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Hi First time tripper to Tokyo
I'm an aussie who spent 2 years there on work.
Fabulous
Expensive
You cannot do better than read the newsletters in >> japan-guide (d0t) c0m <<
We consulted them every week and took a lot of the suggestions.
I envy you - you are heading into sakura (cherry blossom) time which is magical
and it's not too hot to go out to Lake Kawaguchiko for an AWESOME look at Fuji-san.
You also have had some GREAT suggestions in this thread.
Enjoy
Chris
 
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