Flight Availability/Loadings & Upgrade Probability Help Desk

Sprucegoose · Sep 2, 2010

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We have noticed an increase in the posting of questions about seat availability on specific flights. These are all valid questions and we all appreciate the efforts our members go to to provide answers.

The only drawback is that our forums can become "cluttered" with specific questions about availability on specific flights. This tends to reduce the overall usability of our site.
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Please post questions about availability of specific flights or upgrade probability in this new consolidated thread. Be sure to include the airline, flight number, date, origin and destination and any other relevant detail.

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For Questions about Aircraft Configuration and Seat Availability, please use this thread:

Understanding [Fare Buckets] Expert Flyer

I'd appreciate some help understanding the information EF provides. For example, F6 A6 J9 C9 D9 I0 B9 H9 K9 M9 R9 L9 V9 S0 N0 Q0 O0 X0 E0 What letters do I look at to try to work out how many seats are still available in economy? What letters do I look at to try to work out how many...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

See this thread for hints on how to read loadings:

Interpreting and Understanding Expert Flyer

If looking for, say Qantas points upgrades, look for A class for First, mid to high D or any I class for Business and any R for Premium Economy.

Look for the most expensive category of the cabin YOU are currently booked in as being sold out e.g. J0 to first, W0 to Business & Y0 to PE for increased op-up chances. Also, look for availability on the discount premium buckets (A, P, I, D, U, T & Z inventories).

Conversely, look for high numbers in the discount economy buckets (N, O, Q, E & X inventories) for reduced op-up chances.

Seat maps can be a VERY rough guide but note that just because a seat is not showing as allocated does not mean that seat hasn't been sold. Not everyone pre-selects seats.

>>>> END OF ADMIN UPDATE <<<<

Original thread title: update on QF93 on 12 sept

Appreciate it if someone could check EP for loadings.

thnxs

SPRUCE

mannej · Apr 9, 2014

I have a friend looking to upgrade on the following
PER - SYD QF566 (8:05am) on the 18th April
and
SYD - PER QF583 (19:30) on the 22nd April

Is there 2 x U available as there are 2 in the booking. Also would either of the flights have skybeds at this stage?

KVS · Apr 9, 2014

mannej said:
I have a friend looking to upgrade on the following
PER - SYD QF566 (8:05am) on the 18th April
and
SYD - PER QF583 (19:30) on the 22nd April

Is there 2 x U available as there are 2 in the booking.

Did you mean QF 576?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.6/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]

Code:

PER  Perth WA AU [YPPH]
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
FRI  18 Apr 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
QF         568     PER   00:05     SYD   06:20     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         574     PER   05:30     SYD   11:45     332  0   CS0  YS0
[B]QF         576     PER   08:05     SYD   14:20     332  0   [COLOR=red]CS0[/COLOR]  YS0[/B]
QF         642     PER   10:10     SYD   16:25     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         580     PER   12:20     SYD   18:35     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         582     PER   14:35     SYD   20:50     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         648     PER   00:40     MEL   06:20     332  0   CS0  YS0
 -> QF     408     MEL   07:00     SYD   08:25     763  0   CS1  YS0
QF         480     PER   06:10     MEL   11:50     332  0   CS0  YS0
 -> QF     432     MEL   12:30     SYD   13:55     73H  0   CS1  YS0
QF         476     PER   13:40     MEL   19:20     332  0   CS0  YS0
 -> QF     490     MEL   20:00     SYD   21:25     73H  0   CS4  YS9

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.6/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US]

Code:

SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
PER  Perth WA AU [YPPH]
TUE  22 Apr 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
QF         565     SYD   06:00     PER   08:55     333  0   CS0  YS0
QF         575     SYD   08:10     PER   11:05     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         581     SYD   10:10     PER   13:05     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         577     SYD   12:50     PER   15:45     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         569     SYD   16:30     PER   19:25     332  0   CS0  YS0
QF         571     SYD   17:30     PER   20:25     333  0   CS0  YS0
[B]QF         583     SYD   19:35     PER   22:30     332  0   [COLOR=red]CS1[/COLOR]  YS0[/B]
QF         761     SYD   15:00     ADL   16:40     73H  0   CS0  YS0
 -> QF     595     ADL   17:30     PER   19:20     73H  0   CS0  YS0
QF         449     SYD   16:30     MEL   18:05     763  0   CS9  YS9
 -> QF     481     MEL   18:50     PER   20:55     332  0   CS0  YS0

JohnM · Apr 9, 2014

mannej said:
I have a friend looking to upgrade on the following
PER - SYD QF566 (8:05am) on the 18th April
and
SYD - PER QF583 (19:30) on the 22nd April

Is there 2 x U available as there are 2 in the booking. Also would either of the flights have skybeds at this stage?

Here you go:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com

Flight Availability Search
Departing PER on 18/04/14 0:00 for SYD
Returning on 22/04/14 0:00
Flying QF

QF 576 0 PER SYD 332 Unavailable J9 C9 D9 I7 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V4 G0
18/04/14 8:05 18/04/14 14:20 82% / 27m

QF 583 0 SYD PER 332 Unavailable J9 C9 D9 I9 U1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 G0
22/04/14 19:35 22/04/14 22:30 79% / 22m

Do they have status? If so, suggest they phone and ask. Can't answer the Skybed question easily.

JohnM · Apr 9, 2014

Dang!, that's the second time KVS has gazumped me!

Ansett · Apr 11, 2014

Hi all

Can anyone provide loadings for QF9 on 13th April to DXB then QF1 DXB to LHR on the 14th April.

Many thanks

defurax · Apr 11, 2014

Ansett said:
Hi all

Can anyone provide loadings for QF9 on 13th April to DXB then QF1 DXB to LHR on the 14th April.

Many thanks

QF9 13 April MEL-DXB: F9 A9 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W9 R4 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N6 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0
QF1 14 April DXB-LHR: F6 A6 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 W6 R4 T1 Z0 Y9 B9 H8 K5 M3 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

Ansett · Apr 11, 2014

defurax said:
QF9 13 April MEL-DXB: F9 A9 P0 J9 C9 D9 I9 U0 W9 R4 T0 Z0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N6 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0
QF1 14 April DXB-LHR: F6 A6 P0 J9 C9 D9 I0 U0 W6 R4 T1 Z0 Y9 B9 H8 K5 M3 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0 X0 E0

Thanks for that looks a reasonable load but J and F seem light

defurax · Apr 11, 2014

Ansett said:
Thanks for that looks a reasonable load but J and F seem light

Yes, I would say pretty good chance of scoring a points upgrade Y or Y+ to J on QF9. J to F is always hard to predict...

Ansett · Apr 14, 2014

defurax said:
Yes, I would say pretty good chance of scoring a points upgrade Y or Y+ to J on QF9. J to F is always hard to predict...

Just thought I would provide feedback ended up getting an OP UP so P1 may have worked for a change lol And have to say the crew have been sensational in all aspects of service.

Isochronous · Apr 15, 2014

I'm on QF128 on 16/4 booked in PE. FlightStats shows:

[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]F/3 A/2 P/0[/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]J/2 C/0 D/0 I/0 U/0[/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsLabel, align: right"][/TD]
[TD="class: availSeatsValue cabinValue"]W/0 R/0 T/0 Z/0 Y/9 B/9 H/0 K/0 M/0 L/0 V/0 S/0 N/0 Q/0 O/0 G/0 X/0 E/0[/TD]

F was showing as 4/2 and J at 0 last time I checked. Hoping my points upgrade PE-J comes through!

Isochronous · Apr 16, 2014

Less than 24hrs to go and no upgrade has come through for me.

F/1 A/1 P/0
J/0 C/0 D/0 I/0 U/0
W/0 R/0 T/0 Z/0
Y/9 B/9 H/0 K/0 M/0 L/0 V/0 S/0 N/0 Q/0 O/0 G/0 X/0 E/0

Does this mean there were 2 WP1s or CLs in PE who used points that got there over me, or would they take 40k points off a WP in Y to upgrade first so they can oversell Y?

Also with the 1 F seat remaining - would they bump a high status J passenger so they can take points off someone who applied for a J upgrade?

Isochronous · Apr 16, 2014

Upgrade has come through for me. Yay!

I've been given 16J according to MMB. What's this like?

Mr_Orange · Apr 16, 2014

Isochronous said:
Upgrade has come through for me. Yay!

I've been given 16J according to MMB. What's this like?

I went for 18E last time I flew QF128. I like not having to worry about someone in the window getting by me or vv, so the middle pair with direct aisle access are good. It's overnight too so the view out of the window is non-existent.

heycam · Apr 23, 2014

Wondering if I'll be shown any EK op-up love this Sunday. Looking in KVS at EK409 MEL-DXB:

F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V9 X9

Seems pretty open, so I guess there's little chance. EK75 DXB-CDG however looks more promising:

F1 A0 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 G0 X0

Will travelling with two NBs on the same booking adversely affect my chances?

JessicaTam · Apr 23, 2014

heycam said:
Wondering if I'll be shown any EK op-up love this Sunday. Looking in KVS at EK409 MEL-DXB:
F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 P7 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T9 V9 X9

Seems pretty open, so I guess there's little chance. EK75 DXB-CDG however looks more promising:
F1 A0 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 G0 X0

Will travelling with two NBs on the same booking adversely affect my chances?

I don't know the answer, but would be interested to hear if you and 2 NBs do get an op-up.

Ansett · Apr 24, 2014

Hi all

can anyone please give me loads on QF2 on Saturday 26th April LHR to DXB and then QF10 on the 27th DXB to MEL.

Many thanks in advance

OATEK · Apr 24, 2014

ansett said:
hi all

can anyone please give me loads on qf2 on saturday 26th april lhr to dxb and then qf10 on the 27th dxb to mel.

Many thanks in advance

qf2 f8 a8 j9 c9 d9 i0 w3 r2 t2 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g0 e0

qf10 f2 a2 j9 c6 d4 i0 w9 r9 t0 y9 b9 h9 k0 m0 l0 g0 e0

heycam · Apr 26, 2014

heycam said:
EK75 DXB-CDG however looks more promising:
F1 A0 J7 C7 I0 O0 P0 Y0 E0 R0 W0 M0 B0 U0 K0 H0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 G0 X0

This has now dropped to zeroes across the board. At 35 hours before departure, not sure if that's a good or a bad sign...

heycam · Apr 28, 2014

heycam said:
This has now dropped to zeroes across the board. At 35 hours before departure, not sure if that's a good or a bad sign...

A good sign: http://www.australianfrequentflyer....nal-upgrade-thread-18198-101.html#post1036107

porkbelly · May 1, 2014

I'm flying
QF107 SYD - JFK (2 May 2014)
QF3204 SFO - LAX (22 May 2014)
QF12 LAX - SYD (22 May 2014)

I bought Premium Economy tickets and requested upgrade to Business. As a Platinum member, what are my chances?

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