France proposes ban on short domestic flights

[jakeseven7]

So let's say a CBR-SYD rail link was built. You realize that Australian tax payer would have given something to "Canberra". We can't have that, why the people who live in CBR aren't even human beings.....




Note: CBR'n born and bread. It's amazing how much federal politicians will bend over backwards to NOT give us a cent (look at NBN technology maps for proof of that). NSW gov't wouldn't pay for it either (since we're not NSW tax payers, for proof of that look at the kings highway). So you can have the best most thought out idea in the world, if it involves something that's primarily benefiting CBR it's not going to happen.

You have a nice airport stop complaining

 

[VPS]

and from Germany

German Aviation and Deutsche Bahn sign MoU to move 4.3 million domestic flights to rail | Urban Transport News

Berlin, Germany (Urban Transport News): The Association of the German Aviation Industry (BDL) and…

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[Seat0B]

and from Germany

German Aviation and Deutsche Bahn sign MoU to move 4.3 million domestic flights to rail | Urban Transport News

Berlin, Germany (Urban Transport News): The Association of the German Aviation Industry (BDL) and…

urbantransportnews.com

Interesting to see the "working together" approach. I wonder if the airlines/train operators will come up with a deal involving FF points and SC offers for those who choose to take the train instead of a connecting flight. That would make it more attractive for passengers to make the change. Many of the train operators in Europe already offer a QP style departure lounge (Austria's (ÖBB) are outstanding, DB more variable), so there really is some potential for this to work.

However, all of this really depends on a good alternative mode of transport that is also reliable, such as high speed rail, which already exists in places like Europe and Japan. Countries like Australia, Canada and the US on the other hand don't have similar infrastructure, and so I can't see this idea happening here until there are genuinely alternative ways to travel.

 

[seanpodge]

Given CDG has a train station at the airport, this seems like a fair policy. Probably could have gone further. As long as passengers can book a connecting ticket for the train and there is a reasonably frequent schedule, I don't really see a problem with using a train over a plane.

On a tangent, does South Korea have a similar policy for domestic flights (not sure for the reasoning though)? I remember reading that to fly ICN-PUS for instance, one hade to have an international connection. Otherwise, you had to fly from GMP.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Given CDG has a train station at the airport, this seems like a fair policy. Probably could have gone further. As long as passengers can book a connecting ticket for the train and there is a reasonably frequent schedule, I don't really see a problem with using a train over a plane.

On a tangent, does South Korea have a similar policy for domestic flights (not sure for the reasoning though)? I remember reading that to fly ICN-PUS for instance, one hade to have an international connection. Otherwise, you had to fly from GMP.

Onemileatatime claims it doesn't affect short-hauls from CDG - only ORY.

 

[dajop]

Onemileatatime claims it doesn't affect short-hauls from CDG - only ORY.

Can’t help but think this is therefore just hot air - more about being seen to be doing something - if you look on Wikipedia (Orly page), which lists the destinations airlines fly to from ORY, then this is probably only going to stop flights to/from London and maybe the one or two other destinations that are less than 2.5 hrs train ride away!

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Can’t help but think this is therefore just hot air - more about being seen to be doing something - if you look on Wikipedia (Orly page), which lists the destinations airlines fly to from ORY, then this is probably only going to stop flights to/from London and maybe the one or two other destinations that are less than 2.5 hrs train ride away!

Exactly - there are about five domestic flights covered. But I suppose this is a case of baby steps... see how it goes for ORY and then expand?

 

[ethernet]

With few exceptions, public transport should be cheaper than driving a car. You can discourage some by peak hour traffic jams and exorbitant parking hassles and fees. Then you add in the lost time/productivity factors, and inclement weather (rain, snow, stinking hot, chance of being assaulted or abused at night). And rail will NOT survive if only peak hour is the argument.

The ridiculous fees for sky-bus ad the like, on top on airport landing and security processing fees sees lots of people using car or minibus. And lately caravan, in case a snap quarantine is imposed.
In Canberra, an $80 taxi or Uber fee just for a one way trip to the airport was a no-deal before public transport became a practical option.

Thank you AFF, for teaching me how to get to the airport using public transport tricks. I say tricks, because the Airport does all it can to discourage this. I now drive, and have a GPS that allows me to rat-run the tolls. Should flights resume, I usually book midweek intnl flights as they are cheaper.